MIAMI-SYRACUSE INJURY REPORT

[jnf2257]

Question on Njoku: Is is possible to use a medical redshirt if you are injured in practice during a season you are already redshirting? If he's looking at a 12 month recovery, he'll likely miss next season too, or at least not be a significant contributor to next season. Wonder if he can medical redshirt this season, redshirt next season and retain 4 years of eligibility.

No. All redshirts are medical redshirts. You can't just redshirt a player because he isn't ready to contribute or you don't need him. There has to be an "injury" that prevents the player from playing a certain percentage of games.

That is just simply not true

 

[Swampcity]

If they can play at 90%, they play.

 

[Loose Cannon]

Question on Njoku: Is is possible to use a medical redshirt if you are injured in practice during a season you are already redshirting? If he's looking at a 12 month recovery, he'll likely miss next season too, or at least not be a significant contributor to next season. Wonder if he can medical redshirt this season, redshirt next season and retain 4 years of eligibility.

No. All redshirts are medical redshirts. You can't just redshirt a player because he isn't ready to contribute or you don't need him. There has to be an "injury" that prevents the player from playing a certain percentage of games.

Pretty sure this is total bull****


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[jhtheking]

Question on Njoku: Is is possible to use a medical redshirt if you are injured in practice during a season you are already redshirting? If he's looking at a 12 month recovery, he'll likely miss next season too, or at least not be a significant contributor to next season. Wonder if he can medical redshirt this season, redshirt next season and retain 4 years of eligibility.

No. All redshirts are medical redshirts. You can't just redshirt a player because he isn't ready to contribute or you don't need him. There has to be an "injury" that prevents the player from playing a certain percentage of games.

Wrong.

 

[GPB]

Question on Njoku: Is is possible to use a medical redshirt if you are injured in practice during a season you are already redshirting? If he's looking at a 12 month recovery, he'll likely miss next season too, or at least not be a significant contributor to next season. Wonder if he can medical redshirt this season, redshirt next season and retain 4 years of eligibility.

No. All redshirts are medical redshirts. You can't just redshirt a player because he isn't ready to contribute or you don't need him. There has to be an "injury" that prevents the player from playing a certain percentage of games.

BS. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redshirt_(college_sports)

"Student athletes become redshirts for many reasons. One reason is that the athlete may not be ready to balance the demands of academic requirements with athletic requirements. Redshirting provides the opportunity, with tutoring, to take some classes and get accustomed to the academic demands. They also may redshirt to gain a year of practice with the team prior to participating in competition. In college football, a student athlete may redshirt to increase size and strength toward the completion of overall physical maturity, desirable assets for many positions. As the college years coincide with the final phases of physical maturity, using a year of eligibility in the last college year is generally more beneficial to the team and to the student athlete's potential professional prospects than it is to use the same year of eligibility in the first college year. Players, especially in football, may redshirt to learn the team's play book, since college teams typically run a greater number of, and more complex, plays than most high school teams.

Athletes may be asked to redshirt if they would have little or no opportunity to play as an academic freshman. This is a common occurrence in many sports where there is already an established starter, or too much depth at the position the freshman in question plans to play or that the coach would want to use the player as a starter later in his career so that he can play for four years instead of three.

A special case involves the eligibility of a player who loses the majority of a season to injury. Popularly known as a medical redshirt, a hardship waiver may be granted to athletes who appear in fewer than 30% of team competitions (none after the midpoint of the season) then suffers a season-ending injury. Players granted such a waiver are treated for the purposes of eligibility as though they did not compete in that season.

On rare occasions, players may be allowed to play in their sixth year of college—if they suffered a serious injury that kept them from playing for more than one season..."

 

[MIA42178]

Here is the complete report:

Probable :

WR Sean Avant

DL Shaq Grosvenor

TE Kyle Kleinberg

DB Jordan Martin

Questionable :

DE Kendall Coleman

Doubtful:

DL Josh Black

Out:

CB Scoop Bradshaw

Saf. Antwan Cordy

OL Liam O'Sullivan

Out for season:

OL Aaron Roberts (knee)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/articl...acuse_football_injury_report_vs_miami_fla.amp


[MENTION=17467]Dan Sileo JR[/MENTION]

 

[jw410]

Syracuse is a much more dangerous team through the air than ND and maybe even VT, really could have used an experienced guy like that this weekend.

You realize Ishmael is their only real receiving threat? And the other is Ravian Pierce? The other receivers aren’t anything special and VT and ND have other passing threats to be worried about when we’ll need Dee to play...I swear some of you guys look at these stats and think it’s a bonafide case that an offense is better than that team because they’re ranked higher. These guys put up 23, 26, 25, and 27 vs Middle Tennessee, LSU, NC State, and Pitt...our D is better than all of these schools. Yes their offense is good but stop hyping it up when they beat a hobbled Clemson team at home.

I watched the entire SU v Clemson game and they moved the ball very well against a defense that is better than ours. So you're right, no reason to concern ourselves with this team.

Was Clemson sending a lot of blitzes? Thought I read Dungeys numbers were much better vs blitz

I don't recall them blitzing a ton, QB does a good job of getting rid of the ball fairly quickly and he will pull it down and run as well. I was very surprised by the success they had. Their two receivers are no joke and were frankly unlucky not to score more. This offense will definitely challenge our D, you'd love to be completely healthy for this one, particularly since they play so fast.

All of Clemson's sacks were on blitzes. If you watched film they dropped 8 and rushed 3 **** near 50% of the time. Rushing 3 is a recipe to get picked apart especially if you keep someone in to block.

 

[hotshot]

Dino Babers is the real thing as a HC. Not a household name now but could well be soon in his next job move up the HC ladder with the firings that naturally occur.

Steve Ishmael, 6'2, 209: "Coached by Jeff Bertani at North Miami Beach … 2013 Florida All-State Class 8A First Team Offense … 2013 All-South Florida Regional Elite Second Team Offense … 2013 Miami-Dade All-Star … Set North Miami Beach school records for touchdowns, receptions, and receiving yards … In 2012, recorded 937 receiving yards, 13 touchdowns, 27 tackles and five interceptions." Were we ever interested in this local kid?

 

[Tony Perps]

Question on Njoku: Is is possible to use a medical redshirt if you are injured in practice during a season you are already redshirting? If he's looking at a 12 month recovery, he'll likely miss next season too, or at least not be a significant contributor to next season. Wonder if he can medical redshirt this season, redshirt next season and retain 4 years of eligibility.

No. All redshirts are medical redshirts. You can't just redshirt a player because he isn't ready to contribute or you don't need him. There has to be an "injury" that prevents the player from playing a certain percentage of games.

Lol wrong.

 

[5XNC]

Wrong. Everyone has 5 years to play 4. That’s including a rs year if desired.

 

[clg003]

Syracuse is a much more dangerous team through the air than ND and maybe even VT, really could have used an experienced guy like that this weekend.

You realize Ishmael is their only real receiving threat? And the other is Ravian Pierce? The other receivers aren’t anything special and VT and ND have other passing threats to be worried about when we’ll need Dee to play...I swear some of you guys look at these stats and think it’s a bonafide case that an offense is better than that team because they’re ranked higher. These guys put up 23, 26, 25, and 27 vs Middle Tennessee, LSU, NC State, and Pitt...our D is better than all of these schools. Yes their offense is good but stop hyping it up when they beat a hobbled Clemson team at home.

I watched the entire SU v Clemson game and they moved the ball very well against a defense that is better than ours. So you're right, no reason to concern ourselves with this team.

Was Clemson sending a lot of blitzes? Thought I read Dungeys numbers were much better vs blitz

I don't recall them blitzing a ton, QB does a good job of getting rid of the ball fairly quickly and he will pull it down and run as well. I was very surprised by the success they had. Their two receivers are no joke and were frankly unlucky not to score more. This offense will definitely challenge our D, you'd love to be completely healthy for this one, particularly since they play so fast.

Clemson had like 7 sacks and about killed that kid a number of other times. Clemson gave them so many extended drives because of PIs and a roughing the passer. The also played up right in those receivers faces and tried time and time again to knock them off their routes. We dont do that.

They basically gave them 1 td from a roughing the passer call on a 3rd and long that failed and then 2 PIs on the same drive. They also allowed one big play for a TD before the half by basically not covering a guy over the middle and when he caught it there wasn't a Clemson DB within 20 yards of the guy. Clemson played horrible on D. Its really that simple.

 

[JHallCanes]

funny how no one is talking about 3 of their starters in the secondary being out and us getting richards back.

True.

I had hoped Delaney was held out against GT as a precaution. Guess not. Too bad too because he was really starting to play well.

 

[JHallCanes]

Question on Njoku: Is is possible to use a medical redshirt if you are injured in practice during a season you are already redshirting? If he's looking at a 12 month recovery, he'll likely miss next season too, or at least not be a significant contributor to next season. Wonder if he can medical redshirt this season, redshirt next season and retain 4 years of eligibility.

No. All redshirts are medical redshirts. You can't just redshirt a player because he isn't ready to contribute or you don't need him. There has to be an "injury" that prevents the player from playing a certain percentage of games.

What in the actual **** are you talking about?

 

[BALLHAWKU]

Can’t pass the ball if you don’t have time . Dl and DE need to take over

 

[CrooKs]

Question on Njoku: Is is possible to use a medical redshirt if you are injured in practice during a season you are already redshirting? If he's looking at a 12 month recovery, he'll likely miss next season too, or at least not be a significant contributor to next season. Wonder if he can medical redshirt this season, redshirt next season and retain 4 years of eligibility.

No. All redshirts are medical redshirts. You can't just redshirt a player because he isn't ready to contribute or you don't need him. There has to be an "injury" that prevents the player from playing a certain percentage of games.

BS. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redshirt_(college_sports)

"Student athletes become redshirts for many reasons. One reason is that the athlete may not be ready to balance the demands of academic requirements with athletic requirements. Redshirting provides the opportunity, with tutoring, to take some classes and get accustomed to the academic demands. They also may redshirt to gain a year of practice with the team prior to participating in competition. In college football, a student athlete may redshirt to increase size and strength toward the completion of overall physical maturity, desirable assets for many positions. As the college years coincide with the final phases of physical maturity, using a year of eligibility in the last college year is generally more beneficial to the team and to the student athlete's potential professional prospects than it is to use the same year of eligibility in the first college year. Players, especially in football, may redshirt to learn the team's play book, since college teams typically run a greater number of, and more complex, plays than most high school teams.

Athletes may be asked to redshirt if they would have little or no opportunity to play as an academic freshman. This is a common occurrence in many sports where there is already an established starter, or too much depth at the position the freshman in question plans to play or that the coach would want to use the player as a starter later in his career so that he can play for four years instead of three.

A special case involves the eligibility of a player who loses the majority of a season to injury. Popularly known as a medical redshirt, a hardship waiver may be granted to athletes who appear in fewer than 30% of team competitions (none after the midpoint of the season) then suffers a season-ending injury. Players granted such a waiver are treated for the purposes of eligibility as though they did not compete in that season.

On rare occasions, players may be allowed to play in their sixth year of college—if they suffered a serious injury that kept them from playing for more than one season..."

Go read the rules on academic redshirts. Academic redshirts are kids who don't meet the NCAA required GPA upon graduation of high school. Every kid we redshirt this year will be a medical redshirt.

 

[5XNC]

That is not true. You’re a moron. Every kid has 5 years to play 4. Has nothing to do with medical. There are no academic redshirts. If you don’t have the necessary gpa and test score, you don’t get in.

Wtf is wrong with you? You’re wrong.

 

[duke4heisman]

There is a 6 yr eligibility also. Randy Phillips got one and I believe Malcolm Lewis did as well.

 

[d--1]

Question on Njoku: Is is possible to use a medical redshirt if you are injured in practice during a season you are already redshirting? If he's looking at a 12 month recovery, he'll likely miss next season too, or at least not be a significant contributor to next season. Wonder if he can medical redshirt this season, redshirt next season and retain 4 years of eligibility.

No. All redshirts are medical redshirts. You can't just redshirt a player because he isn't ready to contribute or you don't need him. There has to be an "injury" that prevents the player from playing a certain percentage of games.

BS. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redshirt_(college_sports)

"Student athletes become redshirts for many reasons. One reason is that the athlete may not be ready to balance the demands of academic requirements with athletic requirements. Redshirting provides the opportunity, with tutoring, to take some classes and get accustomed to the academic demands. They also may redshirt to gain a year of practice with the team prior to participating in competition. In college football, a student athlete may redshirt to increase size and strength toward the completion of overall physical maturity, desirable assets for many positions. As the college years coincide with the final phases of physical maturity, using a year of eligibility in the last college year is generally more beneficial to the team and to the student athlete's potential professional prospects than it is to use the same year of eligibility in the first college year. Players, especially in football, may redshirt to learn the team's play book, since college teams typically run a greater number of, and more complex, plays than most high school teams.

Athletes may be asked to redshirt if they would have little or no opportunity to play as an academic freshman. This is a common occurrence in many sports where there is already an established starter, or too much depth at the position the freshman in question plans to play or that the coach would want to use the player as a starter later in his career so that he can play for four years instead of three.

A special case involves the eligibility of a player who loses the majority of a season to injury. Popularly known as a medical redshirt, a hardship waiver may be granted to athletes who appear in fewer than 30% of team competitions (none after the midpoint of the season) then suffers a season-ending injury. Players granted such a waiver are treated for the purposes of eligibility as though they did not compete in that season.

On rare occasions, players may be allowed to play in their sixth year of college—if they suffered a serious injury that kept them from playing for more than one season..."

Go read the rules on academic redshirts. Academic redshirts are kids who don't meet the NCAA required GPA upon graduation of high school. Every kid we redshirt this year will be a medical redshirt.

"Athletes may be asked to redshirt if they would have little or no opportunity to play as an academic freshman. This is a common occurrence in many sports where there is already an established starter, or too much depth at the position the freshman in question plans to play or that the coach would want to use the player as a starter later in his career so that he can play for four years instead of three."

The description 'academic freshmen' used here does not mean the reason for redshirting in this description is academic. This clearly describes a player redshirting due to not seeing the field and is not a medical redshirt. Rosier did this his Freshman year when Kaaya started.

 

[The Franchise]

If Rick decides to play King Don on that less than 100% ankle, then he most certainly will break his other ankle during the game requiring season ending surgery. That's how it always works.

 

[112_cane]

Question on Njoku: Is is possible to use a medical redshirt if you are injured in practice during a season you are already redshirting? If he's looking at a 12 month recovery, he'll likely miss next season too, or at least not be a significant contributor to next season. Wonder if he can medical redshirt this season, redshirt next season and retain 4 years of eligibility.

No. All redshirts are medical redshirts. You can't just redshirt a player because he isn't ready to contribute or you don't need him. There has to be an "injury" that prevents the player from playing a certain percentage of games.

BS. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redshirt_(college_sports)

"Student athletes become redshirts for many reasons. One reason is that the athlete may not be ready to balance the demands of academic requirements with athletic requirements. Redshirting provides the opportunity, with tutoring, to take some classes and get accustomed to the academic demands. They also may redshirt to gain a year of practice with the team prior to participating in competition. In college football, a student athlete may redshirt to increase size and strength toward the completion of overall physical maturity, desirable assets for many positions. As the college years coincide with the final phases of physical maturity, using a year of eligibility in the last college year is generally more beneficial to the team and to the student athlete's potential professional prospects than it is to use the same year of eligibility in the first college year. Players, especially in football, may redshirt to learn the team's play book, since college teams typically run a greater number of, and more complex, plays than most high school teams.

Athletes may be asked to redshirt if they would have little or no opportunity to play as an academic freshman. This is a common occurrence in many sports where there is already an established starter, or too much depth at the position the freshman in question plans to play or that the coach would want to use the player as a starter later in his career so that he can play for four years instead of three.

A special case involves the eligibility of a player who loses the majority of a season to injury. Popularly known as a medical redshirt, a hardship waiver may be granted to athletes who appear in fewer than 30% of team competitions (none after the midpoint of the season) then suffers a season-ending injury. Players granted such a waiver are treated for the purposes of eligibility as though they did not compete in that season.

On rare occasions, players may be allowed to play in their sixth year of college—if they suffered a serious injury that kept them from playing for more than one season..."

Go read the rules on academic redshirts. Academic redshirts are kids who don't meet the NCAA required GPA upon graduation of high school. Every kid we redshirt this year will be a medical redshirt.

You do know N'KOSI PERRY is going to RS this year right? He's not hurt. Come on man.