MEGA Miami Fan Attendance -Discussion

[joeyhh]

Canes are in a Pro town and it's a Pro football team disguising itself as a college team...

If we were National Champs, no one is at that game.

Yup
I remember a #3 ranked Canes team playing a terrible Duke squad at OB. Crowd was really sparse.

 

[NE Canes]

Maryland is not exactly packing it in tonight. Do you think anyone on Gameday will mention how bad their fans are?

Stop listening to the agenda. Miami fans are actually great.

 

[Brains]

Prepare to judge.

What’s the largest turnout we have ever had for a GT game?

757

 

[Brains]

Let's see what happens if we get consistently competitive, as that has not been the case since moving to this stadium.

Until we have 5 straight years of serious performance and winning, it's a disingenuous comparison to the OB.

I'm betting that a good product would draw a more consistent crowd at this stadium than it did in the OB.

 

[Tru C]

Duke's average attendance was under 25K last year, so if that is your program model for attendance, it is not working so well.

No not the point

 

[skydogcane6]

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Other than optics, you’re just kicking fans out of their seats for no reason lol

 

[RichtshawFerguson]

Winning alone wont bring fans. I seen clips of 2001 and there were 40k v Syracuse

I largely agree about the marketing.
But don’t sell winning short. There’s a delayed reaction, but it’s still the most effective way to raise attendance.
Miami is all about the “events”. Everyone knew the 2001 team was good at the time, but I think only the diehards immediately realized how good.

Then they hammered #15 Syracuse 59-0, in front of about 50k. The following week they played UW, also in the OB, in front of 78k (the last home game).
After winning it all in 2001, the average attendance jumped to 69k in 2002. Then hovered around 60k/game until the wheels fell off a few years later.

 

[WanderFranco]

Can some people at least admit now that slashing prices for the Texas A&M game wouldn't have helped? If Manny in Hialeah can't get the family to the game for $1 per ticket, Manny isn't going to any games, ever.

 

[Canedude08]

Maryland is not exactly packing it in tonight. Do you think anyone on Gameday will mention how bad their fans are?

Stop listening to the agenda. Miami fans are actually great.

Two things can be true at the same time, our fanbase can be terrible and other schools struggle to fill their facilities as well.

The issue with our fanbase, is that stakeholders depend on people that have little to no connection to the University to consistently give a ****. It's a fool's errand and honestly, we need to admit that certain things aren't changing, and we have to win despite it. Keep in mind, there's a significant percentage of our fanbase that doesn't interact with, nor have any relationship to any alumni or students. Compare that to the huge state schools, where there's a good chance that even if you never attended Big State U, you know someone that did.

 

[Canedude08]

I largely agree about the marketing.
But don’t sell winning short. There’s a delayed reaction, but it’s still the most effective way to raise attendance.
Miami is all about the “events”. Everyone knew the 2001 team was good at the time, but I think only the diehards immediately realized how good.

Then they hammered #15 Syracuse 59-0, in front of about 50k. The following week they played UW, also in the OB, in front of 78k (the last home game).
After winning it all in 2001, the average attendance jumped to 69k in 2002. Then hovered around 60k/game until the wheels fell off a few years later.

There's an easy way to predict what the season ticket sales are going to be: Is FSU or UF on the home schedule? If the answer is yes, then expect the number of tickets sold to be significant. Even in your example, Miami played FSU at home in 02. Most people with a semblance of intelligence saw how good Miami was in 2000, and when guys like ER20 came back, it was a safe assumption to make that the team would be **** good, even with a first year HC. I was in high school in Texas, and WE were all like "Miami is going to be crazy this year". The reason why people showed up for UW is 1) UW was a highly ranked team, and 2) it was a revenge game. In other words, highly ranked opponent with LEGIT stakes. That's been the formula for decades at Miami. If the 'Canes are in the hunt, playing a team worth a **** and it's for something, people will show up. If one of those conditions aren't met, expect iffy turnout.

 

[NE Canes]

Two things can be true at the same time, our fanbase can be terrible and other schools struggle to fill their facilities as well.

The issue with our fanbase, is that stakeholders depend on people that have little to no connection to the University to consistently give a ****. It's a fool's errand and honestly, we need to admit that certain things aren't changing, and we have to win despite it. Keep in mind, there's a significant percentage of our fanbase that doesn't interact with, nor have any relationship to any alumni or students. Compare that to the huge state schools, where there's a good chance that even if you never attended Big State U, you know someone that did.

Yes, two things can be true at the same time, but that does not mean they are.

You are largely right though, especially in the Big Ten. Illinois does not fill their stadium week to week, but probably brings in more people than Miami due to the size.

But let's be honest. Someone watched the game, saw the empty stadium and then made a judgment on the entire fanbase based on nothing but their emotions and fan envy that Miami is not Notre Dame. Probably a new Canes fan that thought, for some reason, that Miami is like Nebraska and Ma and Pa are going to get in their camper and come to the game every week rain or shine.

There are a lot of dynamics at play here and I think you are right. A normal Big Ten game is not just a game. There are events and traditions that parents pass down to their kids. The entire campus becomes a fair ground with singing groups, bands playing and almost every student putting on some kind of performance or show before and after the game.

Miami is more like USC and Boston College than any other programs. If we want to make comparisons these are the schools to compare and we are not all that different.

 

[TheEye]

757

 

[1mg of Epi]

UMs attendance isn’t as bad as people want us to believe. Sure, a Thursday night game against a FCS opponent isn’t going to be a big draw… but overall we aren’t all that bad.

 

[CanesFan448]

since this keeps coming up, I was curious about the different P5 schools, their campus population, and stadium size.

there are only 5 schools smaller than us. We have a stadium at least 15,000 seats more than all of them. Of the 63 schools, we have the 26th highest seating capacity.

School	Stadium	Capacity	Campus Population	Type
Boston College Eagles	Alumni Stadium	44,500	15,287	Private
Clemson Tigers	Memorial Stadium (Death Valley)	82,500	28,466	Public
Duke Blue Devils	Wallace Wade Stadium	40,004	18,023	Private
Florida State Seminoles	Doak Campbell Stadium	79,560	44,161	Public
Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets	Bobby Dodd Stadium at Historic Grant Field	55,000	45,296	Public
Louisville Cardinals	Cardinal Stadium	65,000	22,017	Public
Miami Hurricanes	Hard Rock Stadium	65,326	19,402	Private
North Carolina Tar Heels	Kenan Memorial Stadium	50,500	31,705	Public
North Carolina State Wolfpack	Carter-Finley Stadium	57,583	36,700	Public
Pittsburgh Panthers	Heinz Field	68,400	99,767	Public
Syracuse Orange	Carrier Dome	49,250	22,698	Private
Virginia Cavaliers	Scott Stadium	61,500	26,082	Public
Virginia Tech Hokies	Lane Stadium	66,233	38,170	Public
Wake Forest Demon Deacons	Truist Field at Wake Forest	31,500	8,963	Private
Illinois Fighting Illini	Memorial Stadium	60,670	56,916	Public
Indiana Hoosiers	Memorial Stadium	52,656	47,005	Public
Iowa Hawkeyes	Kinnick Stadium	69,250	30,015	Public
Maryland Terrapins	Maryland Stadium	54,000	40,792	Public
Michigan Wolverines	Michigan Stadium (The Big House)	107,601	51,225	Public
Michigan State Spartans	Spartan Stadium	75,005	50,023	Public
Minnesota Golden Gophers	Huntington Bank Stadium	50,805	54,955	Public
Nebraska Cornhuskers	Memorial Stadium	85,458	23,805	Public
Northwestern Wildcats	Ryan Field	47,130	23,161	Private
Ohio State Buckeyes	Ohio Stadium (The Horseshoe)	102,780	60,540	Public
Penn State Nittany Lions	Beaver Stadium	106,572	50,028	Public
Purdue Boilermakers	Ross-Ade Stadium	57,236	51,528	Public
Rutgers Scarlet Knights	SHI Stadium	52,454	50,637	Public
Wisconsin Badgers	Camp Randall Stadium	80,321	48,956	Public
Baylor Bears	McLane Stadium	45,140	20,709	Private
Iowa State Cyclones	Jack Trice Stadium	61,500	29,969	Public
Kansas Jayhawks	David Booth Kansas Memorial Stadium	50,071	26,708	Public
Kansas State Wildcats	Bill Snyder Family Football Stadium	50,000	19,722	Public
Oklahoma Sooners	Gaylord Family Oklahoma Memorial Stadium	86,112	28,308	Public
Oklahoma State Cowboys	Boone Pickens Stadium	55,509	25,372	Public
TCU Horned Frogs	Amon G. Carter Stadium	47,000	12,273	Private
Texas Longhorns	Darrell K Royal–Texas Memorial Stadium	100,119	52,384	Public
Texas Tech Red Raiders	Jones AT&T Stadium	60,454	40,378	Public
West Virginia Mountaineers	Mountaineer Field at Milan Puskar Stadium	60,000	24,741	Public
Arizona Wildcats	Arizona Stadium	55,675	49,403	Public
Arizona State Sun Devils	Sun Devil Stadium	53,599	80,065	Public
California Golden Bears	California Memorial Stadium	62,467	45,307	Public
Colorado Buffaloes	Folsom Field	50,183	39,585	Public
Oregon Ducks	Autzen Stadium	54,000	23,163	Public
Oregon State Beavers	Reser Stadium	43,363	34,292	Public
Stanford Cardinal	Stanford Stadium	50,424	18,283	Private
UCLA Bruins	Rose Bowl	88,565	46,430	Public
USC Trojans	Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum	77,500	48,945	Private
Utah Utes	Rice-Eccles Stadium	51,444	34,734	Public
Washington Huskies	Husky Stadium	70,083	52,319	Public
Washington State Cougars	Martin Stadium	32,952	27,539	Public
Alabama Crimson Tide	Bryant-Denny Stadium	100,077	38,644	Public
Arkansas Razorbacks	Donald W. Reynolds Razorback Stadium	76,212	30,936	Public
Auburn Tigers	Jordan-Hare Stadium	87,451	31,764	Public
Florida Gators	Ben Hill Griffin Stadium (The Swamp)	88,548	55,211	Public
Georgia Bulldogs	Sanford Stadium	92,746	40,607	Public
Kentucky Wildcats	Kroger Field	61,000	31,547	Public
LSU Tigers	Tiger Stadium (Death Valley)	102,321	37,348	Public
Mississippi State Bulldogs	Davis Wade Stadium at Scott Field	61,337	22,649	Public
Missouri Tigers	Faurot Field at Memorial Stadium	61,620	31,304	Public
Ole Miss Rebels	Vaught-Hemingway Stadium	64,038	22,300	Public
South Carolina Gamecocks	Williams-Brice Stadium	80,250	35,653	Public
Tennessee Volunteers	Neyland Stadium	100,074	33,805	Public
Texas A&M Aggies	Kyle Field	102,733	74,014	Public

 

[Madabs]

I'm on a large group chat for my old HS and someone posted their tickets for sale. $250 for 2 seats and parking. LOL. WTF?!

That’s insane

 

[canecrazy23]

its Bethune. this game was never going to be packed. we aren't that type of city or fanbase. its not followed like a college town team would be and nor does everyones lives revolve around it. keep winning and the conf games will be better attended than what we've seen so far.

While I 100% agree even college town teams struggle with attendance.

Look at this FSU vs UF game.


https://www.tampabay.com/sports/flo...all-had-worst-attendance-years-since-the-90s/

 

[canecrazy23]

Seriously... even when we were in our heyday throughout the 80's ,early 90's and early 00's... the attendance was always the same... yea they may have been a few more games that looked better in the stands but it's always been like this...
It always puzzled me when people get in a uproar about it , not saying you just generally speaking....
They make it come across like this is the first time it's ever happened....
Those of us that have been around a long while now have seen this same pattern year after year ....

It's usually the young fans who didn't go to games in the OB during our best years. They don't know any better. This will never change but it can get better. Don't schedule a Buthune scrimmage on a Thursday night.

 

[Disgustipated]

It's usually the young fans who didn't go to games in the OB during our best years. They don't know any better. This will never change but it can get better. Don't schedule a Buthune scrimmage on a Thursday night.

As a matter fact, don't schedule FCS opponents all together.

 

[simplycanes]

Hey guys, quick question: What about building our own stadium?

 

[Pentagon Cane]

Anybody watch the Maryland game last night? The announced crowd was 37k. Probably closer to 30k.