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MEGA Mega Merged Stadium Thread.

Ajcane8 said:
Will the 7 home games, spring game and bowl game all be sold out? Hopefully? I’ll be there. That’s 1/60k. You’re welcome to join. Let’s make it a party.

Then you’ve got Futbol. Final 4. Metallica. Monster trucks. NHL all star game… all of which have a better chance of making capacity.

That said - the parenthetical remark in my original response was a bit of a hypothetical aside. Since losing a “public green space” is rsa’s main reason for becoming Westchester William Wallace, the point I was trying to make is that a ~60k-seat stadium (whose footprint takes up about 1/4 of the total area and which is only in use 20/365 days) does not take away from the public nature of the other 75% of the newly redeveloped state-of-the-art park.
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Do you fold up the stadium and take it to a warehouse the other 345 days when it’s not in use or does it remain in place? Asking for a friend

Second point is that most people are missing an important point. The stadium by itself is a money losing machine. You will need hotels or offices or other non sport uses. Look at the number of buildings in the draft site plan

Third. There is only one William Wallace. That’s @LuCane
 
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rsa coral gables said:
Do you fold up the stadium and take it to a warehouse the other 345 days when it’s not in use or does it remain in place? Asking for a friend

Second point is that most people are missing an important point. The stadium by itself is a money losing machine. You will need hotels or offices or other non sport uses. Look at the number of buildings in the draft site plan

Third. There is only one William Wallace. That’s @LuCane
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I strongly agree with your second point. I think one my prior posts referenced that. There has to be a profit objective for investors to put in the billion(s)+ that would have to be invested.
 
rsa coral gables said:
Do you fold up the stadium and take it to a warehouse the other 345 days when it’s not in use or does it remain in place? Asking for a friend

Second point is that most people are missing an important point. The stadium by itself is a money losing machine. You will need hotels or offices or other non sport uses. Look at the number of buildings in the draft site plan

Third. There is only one William Wallace. That’s @LuCane
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Well, no. But, stadium + infrastructure or not, I’m sure you’ll still be able to run the hill, paddle boat, throw lawn darts, whatever, on a Tuesday afternoon in May.
 
rsa coral gables said:
Do you fold up the stadium and take it to a warehouse the other 345 days when it’s not in use or does it remain in place? Asking for a friend

Second point is that most people are missing an important point. The stadium by itself is a money losing machine. You will need hotels or offices or other non sport uses. Look at the number of buildings in the draft site plan

Third. There is only one William Wallace. That’s @LuCane
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Right on, you win a cigar.
It's the Other stuff that brings in the bucks..
 
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calinative umstudent said:

...Would this help in trying to get land around there?
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You would still need more space.... It's not that big of a footprint ... I mean you could squeeze a Stadium in there if built right but parking and other stuff would be a problem...
Creative engineers and architects could come up with something I'm sure but I would think more land than what is there as far as the casino goes would need to be acquired...
 
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rsa coral gables said:
not sure what you mean??
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Contraction. You know, when a league eliminates teams? Gets rid of them? I was mostly joking, but I'd be in favor of contracting the Marlins out of MLB.

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calinative umstudent said:

...Would this help in trying to get land around there?
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I also wonder how this will affect sports wagering in this state (if at all) as it was clown Izzy Havenick's lawsuit (and DeSantis being sloppy) that got it frozen in federal court.

If it hasn't been clearly established, I'm a complete degenerate that NEEDS the opportunity to spend days on end in local sportsbooks and wants same-day real-time payouts.
 
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rsa coral gables said:
magic city deal just closed. $600 million. WOW

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Yes.

And let me just say this, as someone who has worked on the financial side of a casino like this, the VAST amount of the value is the license itself. The land/building is a minor value consideration.

And, if I was just a guessing person, the only way to get a return on that dollar amount would be to either:

a) move the license to a better location in Miami, or
b) acquire as much land as possible around the site for commercial development

And, yes, it might end up being "(b)", but until the cake is baked, there's always a chance that John Ruiz could find some "better" land in Miami and convince the new owners that there's a superior location for a casino than the corner of Douglas and NW 7th.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Yes.

And let me just say this, as someone who has worked on the financial side of a casino like this, the VAST amount of the value is the license itself. The land/building is a minor value consideration.

And, if I was just a guessing person, the only way to get a return on that dollar amount would be to either:

a) move the license to a better location in Miami, or
b) acquire as much land as possible around the site for commercial development

And, yes, it might end up being "(b)", but until the cake is baked, there's always a chance that John Ruiz could find some "better" land in Miami and convince the new owners that there's a superior location for a casino than the corner of Douglas and NW 7th.
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from what i understand, they are going to redevelop the dump of a property.
 
rsa coral gables said:
from what i understand, they are going to redevelop the dump of a property.
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I hear ya (and anyone can "say" that, I'm not disputing you, just speaking from past experience).

But when you look at that property and the neighborhood...I would seriously question anyone attempting that, unless they were to acquire everything else on my hand-drawn map.
 
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for those of you who seem to behave histrionically, please don't read the following. all others proceed.

a confidential sauce close to the action who has provided other reliable confidential information in the past, informs me that (a) the County Commission is considering and is likely to approve an ordinance that in effect prohibits the redevelopment of the property into a stadium (the language and mechanism for doing so is not yet public although i might have seen it) and (b) the County Commission is entertaining a public private partnership (PPP) initiative to redevelop the Park with some light/modest commercial activities. both of these measures will in essence result in no stadium being built in the Park by Ruiz or any other person.

as a point of clarification, although I am 100% against the building of a stadium at the Park (i have said this a hundred times), I have nothing to do with the above initiatives.

FIRE AWAY!
 
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