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***** SEC strikes again. "Best conference" my ***: their coaches have as much balls as bruce jenner
That's how they take care of their young men, you know, family!!
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I doubt Nickpoleon is trying to help an SEC rival get better.
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They don't play UGA this year & Kirby Smart was Satan's right hand man for a long time... But you're probably right.
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^^^ This
Kirby Smart is dead to Nick...it's either you're w/ him or against him. Saban is an egomaniac...he's not trying to help anyone that could possibly get in his way, including his "buddy" at UGA.
His meal ticket has been Miami being down. Jimbo was ****ed at us firing Golden, and so was Nick...the last thing both of those teams need is Miami to come back to life and start locking up the backyard and then start cherry picking outside the fence. No way did I think Nick was going to allow a prize recruit help expedite the rebuilding process.
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Don't be surprised if the SEC crowd doesn't want to see Miami prosper.
If Richt builds up a head of steam, he could start poaching recruits all over the South, just like the Tuscaloosa Bonaparte did down here. Guarantee you the SEC will blackball Richt.
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Right you are, sir. But I think it's an SEC thing. As long as Miami is down, top recruits won't take their talents to South Beach. When Richt gets the fright train going, that's when NFL level talent will start going to Miami. That's what's got them concerned?
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Yep, spot on!
What a new coach, new outlook at Miami will mean for SEC
Sorry if posted before. Kind of old.
What a new coach, new outlook at Miami will mean for SEC
Chris Wright | Nov 20, 2015
Oct 3, 2015; Athens, GA, USA; Alabama Crimson Tide wide receiver Calvin Ridley (3) runs the ball during the third quarter against the Georgia Bulldogs at Sanford Stadium. Mandatory Credit: Dale Zanine-USA TODAY Sports
Miami has hit rock bottom.
It didn’t take the twin-engine buzzards with Fire Al Golden tail feathers circling above Sun Life to see that.
The question is, when?
When did Miami football die, exactly — the result of which seemingly created an overnight one-lane expressway for recruits heading north for the SEC?
Was it the 6-win bowl season last year? The 9-win bowl season in 2013? How about the 6- or 7-win seasons when they self-imposed a bowl ban, which followed another 9-win season and bowl trip in 2009.
Those Canes, they sure are an unsolvable mess.
A funny thing happened on the way to Miami’s football funeral.
The guest of honor showed up with a heartbeat.
The national perspective, certainly involving recruiting, is that Miami has fallen so far, lost all hope, that it can’t keep its local stars from bolting to other Power 5 conferences, in particular to the SEC.
The truth is, as bad as the Nevin Shapiro scandal was, as rock-bottom as the past five years were, the Canes still won more games in that span than Texas, Texas Tech, Ole Miss, Tennessee, etc.
They still have been bowl eligible for seven consecutive seasons, including the two they self-imposed bans. That streak is equal to Nebraska and Notre Dame, and longer than Florida, Penn State, Stanford, Texas, UCLA, etc.
They still have 38 former players in the NFL, which equals Florida and Southern Cal, is more than Auburn, Georgia and Ohio State, and is just two fewer that almighty Alabama.
Miami football, dead?
No wonder recruiting guru Larry Blustein can’t stop laughing.
The great myth exposed
Blustein has covered youth and high school football in South Florida for 40-plus years. Nobody has seen more, heard more, kept secrets safe more than he has.
Just like you, he’s heard the national perspective: The Canes can’t win because every great player is leaving Dade and Broward County for the SEC and other Power 5s.
You see them every Saturday and Sunday. Teddy Bridgewater and Amari Cooper were high school teammates in Miami. Neither played for the Hurricanes.
Patrick Peterson, one of the NFL’s best corners, took his talents to Baton Rouge.
Calvin Ridley and Sony Michel are SEC stars with South Florida ties.
Dalvin Cook looks like a Heisman contender … while wearing FSU’s garnet and gold.
The list goes on and on.
Here’s what Blustein wants you to know: So too does the list of 4- and 5-stars from the area that Miami did sign.
Cook, he said, picked FSU in part because he grew up with Duke Johnson, knew how good Johnson was and didn’t want to wait his turn at Miami.
Duke Johnson, by the way, is in the NFL.
“He didn’t want to split carries,” Blustein said. “He knew he’d be in the driver’s seat at FSU.”
Cooper could have helped the Canes, or anybody else, but Miami still threw passes to Phillip Dorsett, also a 2015 first-round pick.
It’s a story Blustein repeats, over and over, just exchanging names, positions and years.
The point being: Recruiting isn’t and never will be Miami’s problem. It has access to the most fertile 100-square mile recruiting ground in the country. It can’t keep everybody, and it never has.
Even during the Canes’ heyday, when Jimmy Johnson and Michael Irvin ran roughshod over the NCAA, they didn’t get everybody.
They didn’t get future Hall of Famer Derrick Thomas, for instance. He grew up near the Orange Bowl, yet left to play for Alabama.
All those 1984-1987 Canes did was go 34-2 with a national championship. It was their most dominant stretch of a decade of dominance, one in which they won four national championships in nine seasons.
Marvin Jones graduated from Miami Northwestern in 1990. He chose Florida State and became the No. 4 pick in the 1993 NFL draft.
The Hurricanes still managed to win the 1991 national title without him.
“Every year there are 135 kids from Palm Beach County to Key West who sign Division I scholarships,” Blustein said. “When they don’t get the marquee guy, they get the kid who is next in line behind the marquee guy.
“They’re not whiffing as much as the national people think they are. There are 50, 60 guys in the NFL just from Dade County.”
Right coach is SEC’s worst nightmare
All of which leads to the Canes’ biggest problem — and what should be the SEC’s primary concern: coaching.
They ran Golden out of town because nobody was doing less with more.
Miami needs someone who can develop, scheme and coach the talent that pours in every year, circumstances be damned.
And with the ACC cutting schools an annual check for $20 million, found money not available when UM hired Randy Shannon or Golden, this won’t be a budget hire. Miami doesn’t need to take a chance, in other words.
It’s time to hit a home run.
Florida did it. Two Novembers ago, the Gators were finishing a 4-8 season. Now they’re preparing for the SEC Championship Game. Clemson did it. Florida State did it.
Miami, with an even richer history and far more local talent, can turn it around just as quickly.
“Miami has had successive coaches who don’t coach, don’t lead, don’t delegate,” Blustein said. “The next head coach has to be hired mainly because of coaching.
“Recruiting (in South Florida) is overrated. There are so many players here, it’s never going to dry up. Just look at the draft. No way a team that’s been through what they’ve been through would send 10 kids to the NFL.
“Even I’m amazed at the kids they get. But the ultimate recruiting tool is repping the U. Warren Sapp, Michael Irvin, they love their program. Jon Beason, when he comes back, he’s treated like a king.
“There are kids down here who are destined to be UM kids.”
There’s a reason Butch Davis has campaigned to return, why Mario Cristobal likely is in the mix. Both have strong ties to the program. They understand the inherent advantages of having access to that many elite players, the street credibility tied to NFL players hanging out on the sidelines during spring drills.
They understand the culture and the potential.
Miami will always lose recruits. There are far too many to keep.
But with the right coach the Canes can see them again — in the national playoff.
That’s the biggest threat to the SEC’s stranglehold on college football. And that’s something few other schools in the nation can promise.
If that union materializes, those twin-engine buzzards might soon return to Sun Life, carrying championship banners.
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ThereGoesDavis1Sec 8 months ago
Great job on the article. The U is a nightmare for ACC if the hire a decent coach.
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ThereGoesDavis1Sec 8 months ago
*Nightmare for the SEC. Also a Nightmare for FSU,Clemson and ND with there weak schedules so they can’t Cruise into the playoff
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coreyalan 8 months ago
The major flaw in this article is that it claims Miami can get back to where it was before the rise of UF and FSU. They will never have another decade like the 1980’s. That ship has sailed.
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coreyalan 8 months ago
Also, Miami football went into a death spiral after the on field riot ten years ago that sent Coker packing. Miami found itself in a perfect storm in the 1980’s: FSU and Florida weren’t competitive; the gangland thug swagger was en vogue whereas now it is vulgar and pass*– and it’s still their fan culture; two dozen other southern schools hadn’t yet anted up with Big Cash and Exposure– **** UCF has made more waves recently than FSU and UF in the 80’s. Let’s also not forget the lack of an on campus stadium or the tiny student body and alumni network. Soon enough, Miami will be as dead as Rutgers, Harvard, and Princeton.
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Medicjimfla 8 months ago
Miami does have a lot of Bandwagon fans. The test will be if they can fill the stadium.
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bighogbill 8 months ago
Uh, you obviously didn’t see the attendance of the UCF v ECU game last night.
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Medicjimfla 8 months ago
Not sure you can compare the dumpster fire UCF is having this year to UM but okay, here is where UCF is now – they have really only had 10 years maybe of on campus housing with a stadium to build the rabid fan base, prior to that UCF w3as considered a commuter school and they played in the Citrus Bowl across town, its really hard to build a dedicated fan base in that situation. Give them about 25 years and they will be fighting for tickets and Bright House will be expanded to handle the 100,000+ that will be there.
Cleveland Gator 8 months ago
UCF? Isn’t that a little extreme? UF wasn’t what it is today, but Emmitt Smith was there in the 80’s and FSU (Bobby Bowden was already there) was already challenging for the National Championship, but just kept losing to Miami.
Sorry if posted before. Kind of old.
What a new coach, new outlook at Miami will mean for SEC
Chris Wright | Nov 20, 2015
Oct 3, 2015; Athens, GA, USA; Alabama Crimson Tide wide receiver Calvin Ridley (3) runs the ball during the third quarter against the Georgia Bulldogs at Sanford Stadium. Mandatory Credit: Dale Zanine-USA TODAY Sports
Miami has hit rock bottom.
It didn’t take the twin-engine buzzards with Fire Al Golden tail feathers circling above Sun Life to see that.
The question is, when?
When did Miami football die, exactly — the result of which seemingly created an overnight one-lane expressway for recruits heading north for the SEC?
Was it the 6-win bowl season last year? The 9-win bowl season in 2013? How about the 6- or 7-win seasons when they self-imposed a bowl ban, which followed another 9-win season and bowl trip in 2009.
Those Canes, they sure are an unsolvable mess.
A funny thing happened on the way to Miami’s football funeral.
The guest of honor showed up with a heartbeat.
The national perspective, certainly involving recruiting, is that Miami has fallen so far, lost all hope, that it can’t keep its local stars from bolting to other Power 5 conferences, in particular to the SEC.
The truth is, as bad as the Nevin Shapiro scandal was, as rock-bottom as the past five years were, the Canes still won more games in that span than Texas, Texas Tech, Ole Miss, Tennessee, etc.
They still have been bowl eligible for seven consecutive seasons, including the two they self-imposed bans. That streak is equal to Nebraska and Notre Dame, and longer than Florida, Penn State, Stanford, Texas, UCLA, etc.
They still have 38 former players in the NFL, which equals Florida and Southern Cal, is more than Auburn, Georgia and Ohio State, and is just two fewer that almighty Alabama.
Miami football, dead?
No wonder recruiting guru Larry Blustein can’t stop laughing.
The great myth exposed
Blustein has covered youth and high school football in South Florida for 40-plus years. Nobody has seen more, heard more, kept secrets safe more than he has.
Just like you, he’s heard the national perspective: The Canes can’t win because every great player is leaving Dade and Broward County for the SEC and other Power 5s.
You see them every Saturday and Sunday. Teddy Bridgewater and Amari Cooper were high school teammates in Miami. Neither played for the Hurricanes.
Patrick Peterson, one of the NFL’s best corners, took his talents to Baton Rouge.
Calvin Ridley and Sony Michel are SEC stars with South Florida ties.
Dalvin Cook looks like a Heisman contender … while wearing FSU’s garnet and gold.
The list goes on and on.
Here’s what Blustein wants you to know: So too does the list of 4- and 5-stars from the area that Miami did sign.
Cook, he said, picked FSU in part because he grew up with Duke Johnson, knew how good Johnson was and didn’t want to wait his turn at Miami.
Duke Johnson, by the way, is in the NFL.
“He didn’t want to split carries,” Blustein said. “He knew he’d be in the driver’s seat at FSU.”
Cooper could have helped the Canes, or anybody else, but Miami still threw passes to Phillip Dorsett, also a 2015 first-round pick.
It’s a story Blustein repeats, over and over, just exchanging names, positions and years.
The point being: Recruiting isn’t and never will be Miami’s problem. It has access to the most fertile 100-square mile recruiting ground in the country. It can’t keep everybody, and it never has.
Even during the Canes’ heyday, when Jimmy Johnson and Michael Irvin ran roughshod over the NCAA, they didn’t get everybody.
They didn’t get future Hall of Famer Derrick Thomas, for instance. He grew up near the Orange Bowl, yet left to play for Alabama.
All those 1984-1987 Canes did was go 34-2 with a national championship. It was their most dominant stretch of a decade of dominance, one in which they won four national championships in nine seasons.
Marvin Jones graduated from Miami Northwestern in 1990. He chose Florida State and became the No. 4 pick in the 1993 NFL draft.
The Hurricanes still managed to win the 1991 national title without him.
“Every year there are 135 kids from Palm Beach County to Key West who sign Division I scholarships,” Blustein said. “When they don’t get the marquee guy, they get the kid who is next in line behind the marquee guy.
“They’re not whiffing as much as the national people think they are. There are 50, 60 guys in the NFL just from Dade County.”
Right coach is SEC’s worst nightmare
All of which leads to the Canes’ biggest problem — and what should be the SEC’s primary concern: coaching.
They ran Golden out of town because nobody was doing less with more.
Miami needs someone who can develop, scheme and coach the talent that pours in every year, circumstances be damned.
And with the ACC cutting schools an annual check for $20 million, found money not available when UM hired Randy Shannon or Golden, this won’t be a budget hire. Miami doesn’t need to take a chance, in other words.
It’s time to hit a home run.
Florida did it. Two Novembers ago, the Gators were finishing a 4-8 season. Now they’re preparing for the SEC Championship Game. Clemson did it. Florida State did it.
Miami, with an even richer history and far more local talent, can turn it around just as quickly.
“Miami has had successive coaches who don’t coach, don’t lead, don’t delegate,” Blustein said. “The next head coach has to be hired mainly because of coaching.
“Recruiting (in South Florida) is overrated. There are so many players here, it’s never going to dry up. Just look at the draft. No way a team that’s been through what they’ve been through would send 10 kids to the NFL.
“Even I’m amazed at the kids they get. But the ultimate recruiting tool is repping the U. Warren Sapp, Michael Irvin, they love their program. Jon Beason, when he comes back, he’s treated like a king.
“There are kids down here who are destined to be UM kids.”
There’s a reason Butch Davis has campaigned to return, why Mario Cristobal likely is in the mix. Both have strong ties to the program. They understand the inherent advantages of having access to that many elite players, the street credibility tied to NFL players hanging out on the sidelines during spring drills.
They understand the culture and the potential.
Miami will always lose recruits. There are far too many to keep.
But with the right coach the Canes can see them again — in the national playoff.
That’s the biggest threat to the SEC’s stranglehold on college football. And that’s something few other schools in the nation can promise.
If that union materializes, those twin-engine buzzards might soon return to Sun Life, carrying championship banners.
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ThereGoesDavis1Sec 8 months ago
Great job on the article. The U is a nightmare for ACC if the hire a decent coach.
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ThereGoesDavis1Sec 8 months ago
*Nightmare for the SEC. Also a Nightmare for FSU,Clemson and ND with there weak schedules so they can’t Cruise into the playoff
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coreyalan 8 months ago
The major flaw in this article is that it claims Miami can get back to where it was before the rise of UF and FSU. They will never have another decade like the 1980’s. That ship has sailed.
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coreyalan 8 months ago
Also, Miami football went into a death spiral after the on field riot ten years ago that sent Coker packing. Miami found itself in a perfect storm in the 1980’s: FSU and Florida weren’t competitive; the gangland thug swagger was en vogue whereas now it is vulgar and pass*– and it’s still their fan culture; two dozen other southern schools hadn’t yet anted up with Big Cash and Exposure– **** UCF has made more waves recently than FSU and UF in the 80’s. Let’s also not forget the lack of an on campus stadium or the tiny student body and alumni network. Soon enough, Miami will be as dead as Rutgers, Harvard, and Princeton.
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Medicjimfla 8 months ago
Miami does have a lot of Bandwagon fans. The test will be if they can fill the stadium.
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bighogbill 8 months ago
Uh, you obviously didn’t see the attendance of the UCF v ECU game last night.
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Medicjimfla 8 months ago
Not sure you can compare the dumpster fire UCF is having this year to UM but okay, here is where UCF is now – they have really only had 10 years maybe of on campus housing with a stadium to build the rabid fan base, prior to that UCF w3as considered a commuter school and they played in the Citrus Bowl across town, its really hard to build a dedicated fan base in that situation. Give them about 25 years and they will be fighting for tickets and Bright House will be expanded to handle the 100,000+ that will be there.
Cleveland Gator 8 months ago
UCF? Isn’t that a little extreme? UF wasn’t what it is today, but Emmitt Smith was there in the 80’s and FSU (Bobby Bowden was already there) was already challenging for the National Championship, but just kept losing to Miami.
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Ok, someone explain this to me (from Barry Jackson)
• UM cornerback target Maurice Smith has graduated and wants to play elsewhere (UM is among the schools he’s considering) and he’s appealing Alabama’s refusal to grant him his release, AL.com reported. UM would like the depth but also feels good about potential No. 2 corner Sheldrick Redwine. “He’s been good since he got here,” Brad Kaaya said.
• UM cornerback target Maurice Smith has graduated and wants to play elsewhere (UM is among the schools he’s considering) and he’s appealing Alabama’s refusal to grant him his release, AL.com reported. UM would like the depth but also feels good about potential No. 2 corner Sheldrick Redwine. “He’s been good since he got here,” Brad Kaaya said.
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I don't think if he's actually graduated they can stop him going anywhere. But I could be wrong.
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That's what I thought, which is why none of this makes sense.
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I'm not reading that, I'm on vacation.
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Even graduate transfers need permission from their school.
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Trying to decipher that NCAA ruling, I believe you are correct. It seems like to me though, that usually coaches will grant the release as a general rule. You really have to be an A-1 class ażżhole not to grant the release of the students that wanted to move on. And I think it usually is given. Of course, Saban does whatever the fūck he wants and never suffers repercussions or media backlash. He owns the sport right now. Owns it. No sense denying it.
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I didn't realize that. I thought the point was, once you graduated, you were free. Is the only difference the fact that you don't have to sit out a year?
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Franchise. I don't believe this is true.
Smith is free to go WHEN he graduates. Bama cannot block him at that point. But, previous reports have said that he will graduate in August. So, Bama is being tough asserting that he is locked in until that date and cannot go to his new school before his graduation. Bama may be trying to retain him. We just have to sit tight.