UGA vs. MS State is no comparison. you cant simply look at their W/L record.
Richt ALWAYS under achieves and gets blown out in big games
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UGA vs. MS State is no comparison. you cant simply look at their W/L record.
Richt ALWAYS under achieves and gets blown out in big games
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Love how you magically dismiss his ability to win championships with strong Defenses. Mullen hasn't done that yet.
You do know that is exact same resume that Butch put up at Miami. One good season in 6. Losing to Virginia Tech like it was his job. Cost himself one Orange Bowl berth because of it. And save the scholarship stuff. There was enough talent on that roster in 95 and 96 to beat Beamer
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Wow. That is downright awful. Coupled with the low ratings of the defenses, no thanks...
But, again, with proper due diligence he is decent enough to have a chat with, anyway....
But, again, with proper due diligence he is decent enough to have a chat with, anyway....
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Let it go, bro.
You just answered your own question.
TCU and Baylor TIED for 1st, even though Baylor BEAT TCU.
That's the way it works in every scenario, unless the tie-breakers matter for playoff positioning.
I like your contrarian act ... But let this one go.
Al Golden claims a 1st place Coastal for the 3-way finish in 2012 ... UNC does, too. Clemson also claims a co-championship for that season.
I'm guessing this is your contrarian act ... But you might really be the only one who doesn't know how this stuff works ...
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So now Butch had a "good season". If we're talking to Florida fans, we're telling people that we had the best team in the history of college football. But when it's time to discredit Butch Davis, he had "a good season". Typical.
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he's won BCS and other big bowls and won his conference twice. these are things that actually happened. assuming mullen would dominate here bc he averages 4 losses a season in the almighty SEC west is something that is purely hope. but everyone is overlooking the fact that Mullen cant' coach a pro style offense. so basically kaaya will be wasted along with the guys we have coming in.
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F that. WE KNOW what butch can do. Idgaf how long ago it was. HE DID IT! He built nothing into something THREE TIMES. (Canes, Browns, UNC) IDGAF how long ago it was. If you smashed Beyoncé when she was 18 you saying that **** don't count now because it was 15 years ago?? You not going to give props to that?
I know one thing..Mullen NEVER did it. You are hanging your hat on hope and BS analytics of what he could do.
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No, you said they were in fourth. There are four teams with better records ahead of them. The best they can claim is a tie for 5th, but everyone knows they lost to that team.
What place does Vandy finish in if these are the final standings:
Florida 7-1
Georgia 4-4
Kentucky 4-4
Missouri 4-4
South Carolina 4-4
Tennessee 4-4
Vanderbilt 1-7
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me that you think Vandy finished third.
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Some of us tried to tell people this a few weeks ago. The spread gimmick teams that don't play defense are almost all out of the playoff picture.
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1. Yes, we know how the Butch process works at Miami...when he's in his 40's. He was 49 his final season here. If we're being honest, a 64 y/o coach returning to a school 15 years later, after being out of coaching for 5 seasons, is worrisome. I mean, I know Howard Schnellenberger's process works here, too, but I don't want to hire him. Butch brings question marks like Mullen.
2. Worrying about a fit with the QBs on the roster is kind of short-sighted. You can't make a coaching decision based on personnel that will be here possibly one more year at most. If a guy is it good coach you bring him in and let him build the roster and program for the future. This would be similar to UF shying away from Meyer because they only had Leak at the time. He found his QB. The rest is history.
3. Dan Mullen has a high ceiling. He's only 43. He's still evolving as a head coach and all he's done his whole career is engineer great offenses, tutor award-winning QBs, and turn a doormat team into a viable program. This isn't Al Golden winning 8 games at Temple; he took MSU to a BCS Bowl game and had them ranked #1 during that season. They're ranked again. He's doing this at a severe talent disadvantage compared to 4 of the teams in his own division.
4. As for his defense, I'm wiping away his first year because I'd do the same with all coaches walking into a disaster. From 2010-Present, his total defenses have averaged a ranking of 49th. Slightly above average. Now, keep in mind his defensive coordinator Goeff Collins was highly-coveted and plucked away by UF because nobody wants to coach or play in Starksville.
5. Back to the QB issue, I'd argue Mullen is a great fit for Miami. The state of Florida is largely comprised of dual-threat QBs. Mullen's entire career has consisted of him turning these types of QBs into All-Americans capable of leading top offenses. Yes, he's a spread formation guy, but he still leans heavily on a power run game. He gets a lot of weapons involved and he spreads the field and knows how to use spacing and speed to kill a defense.
6. He's got a better record than both Jimmy and Dennis before they were hired. I like to look past that and consider where they're coach, the competition, their style of play, etc. If CIS was around when JJ was hired we would've laughed at his best season being 8-4.
I understand he comes with question marks, I think anyone outside of a handful of coaches do. Everyone on our candidate list does right now, but I think Mullen gets a bad rap by the casual college football fans who fail to understand his coaching history, MSU's program, and what he brings to the table. Just sayin'
2. Worrying about a fit with the QBs on the roster is kind of short-sighted. You can't make a coaching decision based on personnel that will be here possibly one more year at most. If a guy is it good coach you bring him in and let him build the roster and program for the future. This would be similar to UF shying away from Meyer because they only had Leak at the time. He found his QB. The rest is history.
3. Dan Mullen has a high ceiling. He's only 43. He's still evolving as a head coach and all he's done his whole career is engineer great offenses, tutor award-winning QBs, and turn a doormat team into a viable program. This isn't Al Golden winning 8 games at Temple; he took MSU to a BCS Bowl game and had them ranked #1 during that season. They're ranked again. He's doing this at a severe talent disadvantage compared to 4 of the teams in his own division.
4. As for his defense, I'm wiping away his first year because I'd do the same with all coaches walking into a disaster. From 2010-Present, his total defenses have averaged a ranking of 49th. Slightly above average. Now, keep in mind his defensive coordinator Goeff Collins was highly-coveted and plucked away by UF because nobody wants to coach or play in Starksville.
5. Back to the QB issue, I'd argue Mullen is a great fit for Miami. The state of Florida is largely comprised of dual-threat QBs. Mullen's entire career has consisted of him turning these types of QBs into All-Americans capable of leading top offenses. Yes, he's a spread formation guy, but he still leans heavily on a power run game. He gets a lot of weapons involved and he spreads the field and knows how to use spacing and speed to kill a defense.
6. He's got a better record than both Jimmy and Dennis before they were hired. I like to look past that and consider where they're coach, the competition, their style of play, etc. If CIS was around when JJ was hired we would've laughed at his best season being 8-4.
I understand he comes with question marks, I think anyone outside of a handful of coaches do. Everyone on our candidate list does right now, but I think Mullen gets a bad rap by the casual college football fans who fail to understand his coaching history, MSU's program, and what he brings to the table. Just sayin'
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LOL
So, Butch gets credit for building UNC ... But Mullen doesn't get credit for Miss State??
LOL
And no, I don't brag about women from 15 years ago, or anything else fro 15 years ago ... The only guys still bragging about accomplishments from 15 years ago are guys who haven't accomplished anything since then.
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Except......Mullen hasn't accomplished anything. Send him to Illinois since he is a master at turning bad programs into 6th place finishers.
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3 of the last 4 teams to play in the national title game were spread offenses (Oregon, Ohio State and Auburn).
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Two lost, and the one that won plays defense. Try to read the whole post.
Ahhh buddy, I dont care who you are, if you smashed Beyonce in ANY year you got my props. You must be white. lol
Anyway what has Mullen built? This is his 7th year. (I was wrong..I thought he had only been there 5! So its actually worse!)
He has only ended the season ranked TWICE. He had ONE season where he won 10 games.
Was Miss St ever on probation and I missed it or something? Did he come into scholie reductions?
And this is who you want to hand the keys to? LOL.
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