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TimeBum said:
I'm quite flattered you took the time to look up my old posts. I'm not going to look up your old posts because I frankly don't really care all that much what you were right or wrong about 3 years ago. If you learned new info and it changed your opinion, that's called "learning" and most people (me included) tend to think that's a good thing.

But hey - you win. You found where I posted something with info I had at the time that later turned out to be wrong. Since it's so important for you to show that I've been wrong, feel free to go all the way to when I posted on Shadows board (I think I started posting in 2007) and I'm sure you will find some ice cold takes that you will find quite titillating.

But let's look at my rankings from Dec 2020 just for fun

10- Meyer, Saban, and Dabo
still good
9- Jimbo
nope, turns out he is a great recruiter but terrible coach who can't adapt to modern football - hmm sounds familiar
8- Brian Kelly, Lincoln Riley
think both are correct despite Kelly's start at LSU, he ended up annihilating the acc in 2020 and followed it up with an 11-1 season in 2021. Given NDs academic standards, he had recruiting limitations a lot of other coaches didn't have and still outperformed relative to the talent on the roster.
7- Dan Mullen, Richt (UGA Era), Gundy
1 for 3. The autopsy on Mullen is he was a brilliant Xs and Os guy, but couldn't recruit. Didn't know that in Dec 2020. I think Gundy is a **** of a coach just in terms of pure coaching ability. I still stand by this. As for Richt, at the time his overall tenure at UGA was more impressive than Smarts up to that point, especially given the bag game that Smart had and top classes (was year 5 for Smart, he looked at the time like a guy who couldnt win a championship despite infinite resources and top classes)
6- Mario Cristobal, Kirby Smart
This is before we really saw Justin Herbert in the NFL and discovered he was one of the best QBs to come out of college in a long time. It made people take a closer look at whether Cristobal didn't get all the "meat off the bone" with Herbert by not building the offense around what Herbert did well and instead making him play in Cristobals preferred offense. Herbert still put up great numbers because he was exceptionally talented, but I don't think he reached his full potential. Unfortunately that pattern seems to have happened again in Miami.
5- Mack Brown, Matt Campbell
Still good
4- Diaz
I'm sure it's seen as blasphemy to put Diaz above Richt. I'll raise up Richt up from #3 to this spot so Diaz and Richt are both on this level. Richt had the 10 win season after all. In 2020 Diaz had an 8 win abbreviated season that I think would have been a 10 win season if it had been the original schedule. Sorry, I am sure I am in the minority here but I'm simply not impressed with what Richt did at UM as a HC. I appreciate him getting the IPF, but his talent evals were generally hot garbage.
UM shouldn't have hired Diaz to begin with, but it was what it was. Whereas I can buy the argument that Diaz was brand new HC and deserved some time to learn on the job, Cristobal doesnt get that deference from me- especially not with an 8.5 million salary and the highest paid staff in the acc. Cristobal took his lumps at FIU, then started figuring things out at Oregon so he had training wheels. Diaz was going to need to learn on the job.

If Diaz was HC right now I would bet any amount of money that we're 3-2 now instead of 2-3. I doubt he'd have replaced Lashlee with another pro style OC, so we'd probably have another OC that built the offense around TVD and it would be a top 25 O again, just like it was the 2 previous years. Does that mean I'd rather have Diaz than Cristobal? Depends on what happens in February. If Cristobal pulls a top 5 class this year, there is no doubt I'd rather he be the HC. If he does that, then he's stacking talent like Smart did in his 1st class and I think he'll eventually exceed what Diaz could have done even at his (Diaz's) peak. However, If Cristobal ends up with a class in the 10-13 range, that's probably around the same class rank that Diaz in year 4 would have landed, except Diaz makes 5 MILLION LESS per year. And Diaz likely ends up with a better record this year so I don't see any advantage to having hired Cristobal.
3- Richt (Miami era)
2- Golden, Shannon
1- Willie Taggart
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Diaz broke the hope cycle. Meaning he would have had to exceptionally overperform again in the portal, because he appeared unable to close in the 2021 class. Citizen and Moten were likely not to join Miami had he stayed.

Furthermore, he’s likely 3-2 right now as you said. But probably finishing 7-5 or 8-4, at best, presuming he does not have the same injury issues. So the rumors would continue to circulate about his Future, making recruiting that much more difficult and leading the talent level to fall. That’s breaking the hope cycle.
 
mirvin88 said:
Agreed. Though we should absolutely be better than lowly MTSU.
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I think better vs. taking for granted r two different things.

I’ve seen boxers better than their opponents get absolutely slept for disrespecting them by not properly training & partying the night b4. I rewatched that game, AGAIN, and I can honestly tell u, our players came out like “we’re Miami & it’s a privilege to play us.” We pulled that same chit against BCU & So Miss. We played our @$$es off against UNC & A&M, just couldn’t cross that end zone.

I’ve seen soooo many Miami games where guys took that U on the side of the helmet for granted against weaker opponents, get punched square in the face, & by the time they tried to wake up, too late. ****, part of me still believes UNC rag dogged us in ‘20 b/c we were in our feelings about not making the ACCCG & came out flat, which we couldn’t recover from. And the same chit happened against OKSt.

If we played MTSU again, we would beat the brakes off them, but the L is the L & it was well deserved.
 
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crossover22[]_[] said:
Utah destroyed Oregon under mario.

That post hurts your case.
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The difference is Utah went to a NY6 bowl game last yr; they took a huge step back this yr & Lincoln Riley has been made to be some Demi-God on this board. Mario is simply a meat head corch who had Nike money to help him win, or so I’ve been told.
 
Rellyrell said:
The difference is Utah went to a NY6 bowl game last yr; they took a huge step back this yr & Lincoln Riley has been made to be some Demi-God on this board. Mario is simply a meat head corch who had Nike money to help him win, or so I’ve been told.
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Oregon is #10 in the country with 1 loss. They’ll probably make their way up to #7/8 in the next couple weeks. Not sure I’d say they’ve taken a a huge step back.
 
Rellyrell said:
I think better vs. taking for granted r two different things.

I’ve seen boxers better than their opponents get absolutely slept for disrespecting them by not properly training & partying the night b4. I rewatched that game, AGAIN, and I can honestly tell u, our players came out like “we’re Miami & it’s a privilege to play us.” We pulled that same chit against BCU & So Miss. We played our @$$es off against UNC & A&M, just couldn’t cross that end zone.

I’ve seen soooo many Miami games where guys took that U on the side of the helmet for granted against weaker opponents, get punched square in the face, & by the time they tried to wake up, too late. ****, part of me still believes UNC rag dogged us b/c we were in our feelings about not making the ACCCG & came out flat, which we couldn’t recover from. And the same chit happened against OKSt.

If we played MTSU again, we would beat the brakes off them, but the L is the L & it was well deserved.
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I won't pretend to know any better but to me it's so weird players still come here with that attitude and we haven't been **** in two decades.
 
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Rellyrell said:
The difference is Utah went to a NY6 bowl game last yr; they took a huge step back this yr & Lincoln Riley has been made to be some Demi-God on this board. Mario is simply a meat head corch who had Nike money to help him win, or so I’ve been told.
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Utah went 9-3 in the regular season last year.

They will most likely match that number again this year.

Definitely a huge step back!
 
Rellyrell said:
The difference is Utah went to a NY6 bowl game last yr; they took a huge step back this yr & Lincoln Riley has been made to be some Demi-God on this board. Mario is simply a meat head corch who had Nike money to help him win, or so I’ve been told.
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Lol excuses for mario again.

Oregon beat ohio state and lost to utah.

Mario had been in oregon for years. Riley has been at usc less than a year. Isnt that what youve been saying about mario at Miami?
 
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crossover22[]_[] said:
Lol excuses for mario again.

Oregon beat ohio state and lost to utah.

Mario had been in oregon for years. Riley has been at usc less than a year. Isnt that what youve been saying about mario at Miami?
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Is Riley a better coach than Mario? Is USC’s roster in 2022 better than UO’s roster in 2021?
 
Rellyrell said:
Is Riley a better coach than Mario? Is USC’s roster in 2022 better than UO’s roster in 2021?
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As of this season. Yes riley is a better coach. The record shows that.

If their roster is better its because of the players riley brought in. Mario had the same opportunity.
 
crossover22[]_[] said:
As of this season. Yes riley is a better coach. The record shows that.

If their roster is better its because of the players riley brought in. Mario had the same opportunity.
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As of this season?? Is this really the hill u wanna die on, “this” season? Lol

So who could Mario have brought in? Caleb Williams? Maybe Mario Williams? Jordan Addison?

The disingenuousness is at a whole new level, here. Riley is a better coach, “this season.” Lol. Got muh fckin ****; ONLY at CIS do goal post move further than Tenn fans.
 
crossover22[]_[] said:
As of this season. Yes riley is a better coach. The record shows that.

If their roster is better its because of the players riley brought in. Mario had the same opportunity.
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And of course Mario is supposed to be the recruiter guy between the two lol.

We got about 40% of fans that need to realize running a plodding pistol with WCO passing that takes 3 years to master is not an optimal CFB offense no matter how good the roster is, and that acknowledging that doesn't mean wanting Mario fired early, and that if our boy Mario hits up @SouthParkCane for Garret Riley's # and fixes the offense with a Big 12 spread then we are gonna run over these ACC baskethoops schools with Mario as CEO and Ruiz as bagman #1.
 
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