Mario Cristobal

Cut the crap. He ACCEPTED a job on a sinking ship and then stayed for a couple of weeks.

I don't care what the situation was, if you are wary of joining Golden, DON'T ACCEPT THE JOB. It's his god**** alma mater, it's not Southwest Missouri State or some such nonsense.

Do you honestly believe that Mario would never have gotten another offer in his life if he had stayed with Golden? **** no. This is not a D'Onofrio situation. People can see that a UM alum stuck it out in a bad situation with a horrible coach, and Mario would have gotten a ton of offers for himself.

It's not complicated. My own school is not like any other employer. I'm not going to accept an offer at UM, and then quit weeks later. That's just ridiculous, and don't BS me with that Saban nonsense. If that's the job he wanted, he should have waited a couple of weeks to decide.

Alma Mater or not, more than double the salary and opportunity with the top head coach in this business outweighs working for a MAC coach at your alma mater.

Kevin Beard just did the same thing, loyalty in this business is non existent when opportunity comes knocking. What is so hard to understand about this.

Can we please stop promoting this mythology?!?!? Cristobal didn't get $750K to go to Bama!

►Mario Cristobal to $525,000 from $515,000.

And that's from a 2016 article, so he was likely earning less when he took the job in 2013.
Alabama pumps up strength coach's salary to $525,000 a year

You guys have no clue how college coaching contracts are worded. 525k is base salary, there are other escalator type clauses that boost them up each year.

Trust me on this. I know how they work.

Just stop promoting that he got $750K.

Maybe he was only getting $250K at Miami? So your point about him "doubling" his Miami salary might be accurate.

But he didn't get $750K from Alabama.

He's "only" getting $700K from Oregon to be the co-oc.

Mario Cristobal officially added to Oregon Ducks football staff | OregonLive.com

Base salary you clown. I know plenty, brother has coached at USF, Michigan, WVU, through his career. I don't come on here and post bull****
 
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300k work for Golden 750k work for Saban. Cmon man, he saw the sinking ship. Just be thankful we are on an upward trajectory for the first time since 2002, and firing core values was the start of it.



Cut the crap. He ACCEPTED a job on a sinking ship and then stayed for a couple of weeks.

I don't care what the situation was, if you are wary of joining Golden, DON'T ACCEPT THE JOB. It's his god**** alma mater, it's not Southwest Missouri State or some such nonsense.

Do you honestly believe that Mario would never have gotten another offer in his life if he had stayed with Golden? **** no. This is not a D'Onofrio situation. People can see that a UM alum stuck it out in a bad situation with a horrible coach, and Mario would have gotten a ton of offers for himself.

It's not complicated. My own school is not like any other employer. I'm not going to accept an offer at UM, and then quit weeks later. That's just ridiculous, and don't BS me with that Saban nonsense. If that's the job he wanted, he should have waited a couple of weeks to decide.

Alma Mater or not, more than double the salary and opportunity with the top head coach in this business outweighs working for a MAC coach at your alma mater.

Kevin Beard just did the same thing, loyalty in this business is non existent when opportunity comes knocking. What is so hard to understand about this.

Can we please stop promoting this mythology?!?!? Cristobal didn't get $750K to go to Bama!

►Mario Cristobal to $525,000 from $515,000.

And that's from a 2016 article, so he was likely earning less when he took the job in 2013.
Alabama pumps up strength coach's salary to $525,000 a year

You guys have no clue how college coaching contracts are worded. 525k is base salary, there are other escalator type clauses that boost them up each year.

According to the USA Today, Cristobal had a Max bonus of $115k (disclosed), bringing his total potential comp to $640k. Of course, that is only cash. It does not include other contracted benefits like a housing stipend, per diems on travel days and recruiting trips, vehicle, etc.... As a private school, UM does not need to disclose its salaries, so we can only guess at what he was making at UM, but coming off his firing from FIU (where he was making $450k/year), it was at least $200k/year less than his max comp at Alabaga (because we can safely assume 2013 UM would not pay an assistant coach more than what he was making as a head coach the season after he was fired from that position).

Regardless, I am unfazed by Mario Cristobal visiting campus -- it's the coaching equivalent of a networking lunch and happens all over the country in the off-season. He accepted a job at UM about four years ago and left about one month less than that. The guy made a business decision for himself and his family at a stage in his career where he needed to be concerned about increasing his profile and upward mobility (in particular coming off his firing at FIU). Most people would do the same thing, albeit to degrees. If I was a coach would I give UM a discount for my services? Absolutely. Would that discount be $50k/year? $250k/year? $500k/year? Who knows. But the one certain thing is it's always easy to give away someone else's hard-earned money.

Are you angry he's back on campus? Stop living in your feelings from four years ago. Think long term. Consider that he may have some information or skills that make him valuable to the program, if not presently, at some point in the future. You think CMR gives two ****s about what happened four years ago if it can help him win games or make his team better? Of course not. Be better at all costs, and don't go burning bridges that you may one day desire crossing.

EDIT: I will say this... if he had gone to FSU or UF (or even Notre Dame or OSU), I would have a much harder time hearing he's on campus.
 
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Cut the crap. He ACCEPTED a job on a sinking ship and then stayed for a couple of weeks.

I don't care what the situation was, if you are wary of joining Golden, DON'T ACCEPT THE JOB. It's his god**** alma mater, it's not Southwest Missouri State or some such nonsense.

Do you honestly believe that Mario would never have gotten another offer in his life if he had stayed with Golden? **** no. This is not a D'Onofrio situation. People can see that a UM alum stuck it out in a bad situation with a horrible coach, and Mario would have gotten a ton of offers for himself.

It's not complicated. My own school is not like any other employer. I'm not going to accept an offer at UM, and then quit weeks later. That's just ridiculous, and don't BS me with that Saban nonsense. If that's the job he wanted, he should have waited a couple of weeks to decide.

Alma Mater or not, more than double the salary and opportunity with the top head coach in this business outweighs working for a MAC coach at your alma mater.

Kevin Beard just did the same thing, loyalty in this business is non existent when opportunity comes knocking. What is so hard to understand about this.

Can we please stop promoting this mythology?!?!? Cristobal didn't get $750K to go to Bama!

►Mario Cristobal to $525,000 from $515,000.

And that's from a 2016 article, so he was likely earning less when he took the job in 2013.
Alabama pumps up strength coach's salary to $525,000 a year

You guys have no clue how college coaching contracts are worded. 525k is base salary, there are other escalator type clauses that boost them up each year.

According to the USA Today, Cristobal had a Max bonus of $115k (disclosed), bringing his total potential comp to $640k. Of course, that is only cash. It does not include other contracted benefits like a housing stipend, per diems on travel days and recruiting trips, vehicle, etc.... As a private school, UM does not need to disclose its salaries, so we can only guess at what he was making at UM, but coming off his firing from FIU (where he was making $450k/year), it was at least $200k/year less than his max comp at Alabaga (because we can safely assume 2013 UM would not pay an assistant coach more than what he was making as a head coach the season after he was fired from that position).

Regardless, I am unfazed by Mario Cristobal visiting campus -- it's the coaching equivalent of a networking lunch and happens all over the country in the off-season. He accepted a job at UM about four years ago and left about one month less than that. The guy made a business decision for himself and his family at a stage in his career where he needed to be concerned about increasing his profile and upward mobility (in particular coming off his firing at FIU). Most people would do the same thing, albeit to degrees. If I was a coach would I give UM a discount for my services? Absolutely. Would that discount be $50k/year? $250k/year? $500k/year? Who knows. But the one certain thing is it's always easy to give away someone else's hard-earned money.

Are you angry he's back on campus? Stop living in your feelings from four years ago. Think long term. Consider that he may have some information or skills that make him valuable to the program, if not presently, at some point in the future. You think CMR gives two ****s about what happened four years ago if it can help him when games or make his team better? Of course not. Be better at all costs, and don't go burning bridges that you may one day desire crossing.

EDIT: I will say this... if he had gone to FSU or UF (or even Notre Dame or OSU), I would have a much harder time hearing he's on campus.

Thank You. The only posted figures are base salary
 
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no problem with him going to another school and recruiting against us--problem was with how he left us. dont care if any of our former players who are coaches on other teams recruit south florida--it's their job. they aren't backstabbing u or the U--just doing a job that earns them money.


It depends on how you look at it. Did he betray his alma mater or did he realize Golden was clueless ?
Also leaving for more money was pretty much what Butch did and his fans line around the block on this site.
 
Cristibal made $475K in base pay when he went to Bama.

Alabama gives raises to football assistants, not Saban


So, you're suggesting he had bonuses that totaled another $275K???

Ask your brother how many assistant coaches get bonuses that are more than half of their base salary.

So, yeah. You posted bull****, clown.


Alma Mater or not, more than double the salary and opportunity with the top head coach in this business outweighs working for a MAC coach at your alma mater.

Kevin Beard just did the same thing, loyalty in this business is non existent when opportunity comes knocking. What is so hard to understand about this.

Can we please stop promoting this mythology?!?!? Cristobal didn't get $750K to go to Bama!

►Mario Cristobal to $525,000 from $515,000.

And that's from a 2016 article, so he was likely earning less when he took the job in 2013.
Alabama pumps up strength coach's salary to $525,000 a year

You guys have no clue how college coaching contracts are worded. 525k is base salary, there are other escalator type clauses that boost them up each year.

Trust me on this. I know how they work.

Just stop promoting that he got $750K.

Maybe he was only getting $250K at Miami? So your point about him "doubling" his Miami salary might be accurate.

But he didn't get $750K from Alabama.

He's "only" getting $700K from Oregon to be the co-oc.

Mario Cristobal officially added to Oregon Ducks football staff | OregonLive.com

Base salary you clown. I know plenty, brother has coached at USF, Michigan, WVU, through his career. I don't come on here and post bull****
 
They dont play oregon so richt probably doesn't care.
True, I can see richt invited helfrich to pick his brain in running the spread last month.

Huh? You make no sense, broke.

Helfrich is/was no longer employed by Oregon.

Cristobal is employed by them, and although it's not their natural recruiting grounds, you can bet he'll try to get one or two recruits from down here. If it was up to me, I wouldn't let him on campus. Especially considering his past history of leaving us, and then recruiting this area for Bama

Persona non grata, round him and send him back from where he came.

Westchester? Columbus? UM?
 
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Here's one for ya...if mario saw how bad al was, why didn't he stick around and angle for the HC job when al inevitably got fired? He's an alum and wouldn't have much golden stink on him after only a year or two, surely UM would give him a shot at interim at the least.
 
Cristibal made $475K in base pay when he went to Bama.

Alabama gives raises to football assistants, not Saban


So, you're suggesting he had bonuses that totaled another $275K???

Ask your brother how many assistant coaches get bonuses that are more than half of their base salary.

So, yeah. You posted bull****, clown.


Can we please stop promoting this mythology?!?!? Cristobal didn't get $750K to go to Bama!



And that's from a 2016 article, so he was likely earning less when he took the job in 2013.
Alabama pumps up strength coach's salary to $525,000 a year

You guys have no clue how college coaching contracts are worded. 525k is base salary, there are other escalator type clauses that boost them up each year.

Trust me on this. I know how they work.

Just stop promoting that he got $750K.

Maybe he was only getting $250K at Miami? So your point about him "doubling" his Miami salary might be accurate.

But he didn't get $750K from Alabama.

He's "only" getting $700K from Oregon to be the co-oc.

Mario Cristobal officially added to Oregon Ducks football staff | OregonLive.com

Base salary you clown. I know plenty, brother has coached at USF, Michigan, WVU, through his career. I don't come on here and post bull****

Not quite there pal. It is not just bonuses, these are not your average corporate job pay structure. As the other poster enlightened you before his bonus was around 115k. There are other escalators and incentives these coaches get throughout the year that bump their total pay, just like say pro athletes who have incentive laden contracts. Those excess payouts far exceed salary sometimes. Examples of this are car, vacation days (yes they get them, and never use them) so they are always paid out at end of the year which is an extra months pay ;) , working camps believe it or not, and others. So as you can see, this is not your basic pay structure and the fact that you think it is just base plus bonus shows how ignorant you really are, clogging a thread for no reason, by posting published salary only.
 
Here's one for ya...if mario saw how bad al was, why didn't he stick around and angle for the HC job when al inevitably got fired? He's an alum and wouldn't have much golden stink on him after only a year or two, surely UM would give him a shot at interim at the least.

Because who wants to tie themselves to inevitable sinking ship? That's not the way to land your dream job
 
Here's one for ya...if mario saw how bad al was, why didn't he stick around and angle for the HC job when al inevitably got fired? He's an alum and wouldn't have much golden stink on him after only a year or two, surely UM would give him a shot at interim at the least.

you're forgetting one thing

we're under a new administration now, one that not only cares but seemingly goes at least a LITTLE out of their way to help the football program

the previous regime ( donna... I can't even say the full name, we'll just say those whom we do not speak of ) wanted this football program to die

it wasn't nearly as enticing as it is now
 
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Cristibal made $475K in base pay when he went to Bama.

Alabama gives raises to football assistants, not Saban


So, you're suggesting he had bonuses that totaled another $275K???

Ask your brother how many assistant coaches get bonuses that are more than half of their base salary.

So, yeah. You posted bull****, clown.


You guys have no clue how college coaching contracts are worded. 525k is base salary, there are other escalator type clauses that boost them up each year.

Trust me on this. I know how they work.

Just stop promoting that he got $750K.

Maybe he was only getting $250K at Miami? So your point about him "doubling" his Miami salary might be accurate.

But he didn't get $750K from Alabama.

He's "only" getting $700K from Oregon to be the co-oc.

Mario Cristobal officially added to Oregon Ducks football staff | OregonLive.com

Base salary you clown. I know plenty, brother has coached at USF, Michigan, WVU, through his career. I don't come on here and post bull****

Not quite there pal. It is not just bonuses, these are not your average corporate job pay structure. As the other poster enlightened you before his bonus was around 115k. There are other escalators and incentives these coaches get throughout the year that bump their total pay, just like say pro athletes who have incentive laden contracts. Those excess payouts far exceed salary sometimes. Examples of this are car, vacation days (yes they get them, and never use them) so they are always paid out at end of the year which is an extra months pay ;) , working camps believe it or not, and others. So as you can see, this is not your basic pay structure and the fact that you think it is just base plus bonus shows how ignorant you really are, clogging a thread for no reason, by posting published salary only.

You keep responding ...

So, I'll keep responding ...

Interesting that you've edited the responses to hide the fact that my original response is to your bull**** claim that Cristobal left a $350K position at Miami for a $750K position at Alabama, though. But even using your methodology, he wasn't making that when he left Alabama for the Oregon Co-OC job.

But I'll humor you ... Let's assume you can achieve your $750K pay at Bama in HIS FIRST SEASON. Which you can't, but I'll humor you;

If Cristobal could bonus and fringe benefit his way from $475K to $750K at Alabama, what are you suggesting his base pay, bonus, and fringe benefit package at Miami was?

Based on your theory ... Cristobal was almost making as much from his bonus and fringe packet as he was making in total pay at Miami??? :monkey-serious:


Using YOUR theory, Miami must have been paying him $125K before his bonus and fringe benefit package, since these assistants don't make the average "corporate job pay structure". :11263323124_b207743


You're making up numbers to support a premise.

I probably should have let Franchise's comment carry the point; Which is you have no clue what Cristobal made at Miami or what he made at Alabama.

And the guy who co-signed the bonus structure for you is citing 2016 numbers. I've already established Cristobal didn't make the same salary in 2013 that he made last year.

Are you ridiculous enough to think he made the same bonus on a lesser salary, in 2013?

Don't reply to this unless you have some actual numbers and support. Otherwise, you'll just continue posting your bull**** theory on why you are OK with Cristobal taking the Miami job and bolting a month later.

By all means ... Have your own opinion on the subject. This is a message board, and that's your right. But you can't substantiate that opinion with made-up "facts", and get all bothered when you get called out on your "fact" not being a fact.
 
Cristibal made $475K in base pay when he went to Bama.

Alabama gives raises to football assistants, not Saban


So, you're suggesting he had bonuses that totaled another $275K???

Ask your brother how many assistant coaches get bonuses that are more than half of their base salary.

So, yeah. You posted bull****, clown.


Trust me on this. I know how they work.

Just stop promoting that he got $750K.

Maybe he was only getting $250K at Miami? So your point about him "doubling" his Miami salary might be accurate.

But he didn't get $750K from Alabama.

He's "only" getting $700K from Oregon to be the co-oc.

Mario Cristobal officially added to Oregon Ducks football staff | OregonLive.com

Base salary you clown. I know plenty, brother has coached at USF, Michigan, WVU, through his career. I don't come on here and post bull****

Not quite there pal. It is not just bonuses, these are not your average corporate job pay structure. As the other poster enlightened you before his bonus was around 115k. There are other escalators and incentives these coaches get throughout the year that bump their total pay, just like say pro athletes who have incentive laden contracts. Those excess payouts far exceed salary sometimes. Examples of this are car, vacation days (yes they get them, and never use them) so they are always paid out at end of the year which is an extra months pay ;) , working camps believe it or not, and others. So as you can see, this is not your basic pay structure and the fact that you think it is just base plus bonus shows how ignorant you really are, clogging a thread for no reason, by posting published salary only.

You keep responding ...

So, I'll keep responding ...

Interesting that you've edited the responses to hide the fact that my original response is to your bull**** claim that Cristobal left a $350K position at Miami for a $750K position at Alabama, though. But even using your methodology, he wasn't making that when he left Alabama for the Oregon Co-OC job.

But I'll humor you ... Let's assume you can achieve your $750K pay at Bama in HIS FIRST SEASON. Which you can't, but I'll humor you;

If Cristobal could bonus and fringe benefit his way from $475K to $750K at Alabama, what are you suggesting his base pay, bonus, and fringe benefit package at Miami was?

Based on your theory ... Cristobal was almost making as much from his bonus and fringe packet as he was making in total pay at Miami??? :monkey-serious:


Using YOUR theory, Miami must have been paying him $125K before his bonus and fringe benefit package, since these assistants don't make the average "corporate job pay structure". :11263323124_b207743


You're making up numbers to support a premise.

I probably should have let Franchise's comment carry the point; Which is you have no clue what Cristobal made at Miami or what he made at Alabama.

And the guy who co-signed the bonus structure for you is citing 2016 numbers. I've already established Cristobal didn't make the same salary in 2013 that he made last year.

Are you ridiculous enough to think he made the same bonus on a lesser salary, in 2013?

Don't reply to this unless you have some actual numbers and support. Otherwise, you'll just continue posting your bull**** theory on why you are OK with Cristobal taking the Miami job and bolting a month later.

By all means ... Have your own opinion on the subject. This is a message board, and that's your right. But you can't substantiate that opinion with made-up "facts", and get all bothered when you get called out on your "fact" not being a fact.


I'm ok with him leaving Miami because more than the money, the career growth he was afforded working with Saban far outweighed what he would gain under Golden. That is also a fact.

You are forming an opinion based on published salary, these contracts expand much further than that. Miami until Mark Richt got here was behind in the arms race quite a bit. FACT. He made a lot more and advanced his career under Saban. That is real talk
 
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I know why Mario is there. That's pretty easy to sniff out. What I don't know is what UM and CMR think of that possibility, it seems to me our recruiting is going fine without him and he isn't considered a top quality or position coach.

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Cut the crap. He ACCEPTED a job on a sinking ship and then stayed for a couple of weeks.

I don't care what the situation was, if you are wary of joining Golden, DON'T ACCEPT THE JOB. It's his god**** alma mater, it's not Southwest Missouri State or some such nonsense.

Do you honestly believe that Mario would never have gotten another offer in his life if he had stayed with Golden? **** no. This is not a D'Onofrio situation. People can see that a UM alum stuck it out in a bad situation with a horrible coach, and Mario would have gotten a ton of offers for himself.

It's not complicated. My own school is not like any other employer. I'm not going to accept an offer at UM, and then quit weeks later. That's just ridiculous, and don't BS me with that Saban nonsense. If that's the job he wanted, he should have waited a couple of weeks to decide.

Alma Mater or not, more than double the salary and opportunity with the top head coach in this business outweighs working for a MAC coach at your alma mater.

Kevin Beard just did the same thing, loyalty in this business is non existent when opportunity comes knocking. What is so hard to understand about this.

Can we please stop promoting this mythology?!?!? Cristobal didn't get $750K to go to Bama!

►Mario Cristobal to $525,000 from $515,000.

And that's from a 2016 article, so he was likely earning less when he took the job in 2013.
Alabama pumps up strength coach's salary to $525,000 a year

You guys have no clue how college coaching contracts are worded. 525k is base salary, there are other escalator type clauses that boost them up each year.

According to the USA Today, Cristobal had a Max bonus of $115k (disclosed), bringing his total potential comp to $640k. Of course, that is only cash. It does not include other contracted benefits like a housing stipend, per diems on travel days and recruiting trips, vehicle, etc.... As a private school, UM does not need to disclose its salaries, so we can only guess at what he was making at UM, but coming off his firing from FIU (where he was making $450k/year), it was at least $200k/year less than his max comp at Alabaga (because we can safely assume 2013 UM would not pay an assistant coach more than what he was making as a head coach the season after he was fired from that position).

Regardless, I am unfazed by Mario Cristobal visiting campus -- it's the coaching equivalent of a networking lunch and happens all over the country in the off-season. He accepted a job at UM about four years ago and left about one month less than that. The guy made a business decision for himself and his family at a stage in his career where he needed to be concerned about increasing his profile and upward mobility (in particular coming off his firing at FIU). Most people would do the same thing, albeit to degrees. If I was a coach would I give UM a discount for my services? Absolutely. Would that discount be $50k/year? $250k/year? $500k/year? Who knows. But the one certain thing is it's always easy to give away someone else's hard-earned money.

Are you angry he's back on campus? Stop living in your feelings from four years ago. Think long term. Consider that he may have some information or skills that make him valuable to the program, if not presently, at some point in the future. You think CMR gives two ****s about what happened four years ago if it can help him win games or make his team better? Of course not. Be better at all costs, and don't go burning bridges that you may one day desire crossing.

EDIT: I will say this... if he had gone to FSU or UF (or even Notre Dame or OSU), I would have a much harder time hearing he's on campus.

Problem with this whole post is you have no idea what he was making at UM, what his potential bonuses were at UM or if he maxed out his bonuses at Alabaga.

What we do know is that his alma mater gave him a lucrative gig after he got fired. We know that he quit on his alma mater a few weeks later. And we know he had nothing good to say about UM when he was recruiting directly against us for several guys at Alabaga.

So fvck him and his "business decisions" up his ***. As it turned out, his "business decision" did nothing to advance his career that he couldn't have accomplished here. He likely would have been named the next HC here had he stayed and rallied the troops. At worst, he gets a high profile gig like Larry Snott did. In fact, Snott's gig as OC at UT is a bigger advancement than non-playcalling co-OC at Oregon.
 
Cristibal made $475K in base pay when he went to Bama.

Alabama gives raises to football assistants, not Saban


So, you're suggesting he had bonuses that totaled another $275K???

Ask your brother how many assistant coaches get bonuses that are more than half of their base salary.

So, yeah. You posted bull****, clown.


Can we please stop promoting this mythology?!?!? Cristobal didn't get $750K to go to Bama!



And that's from a 2016 article, so he was likely earning less when he took the job in 2013.
Alabama pumps up strength coach's salary to $525,000 a year

You guys have no clue how college coaching contracts are worded. 525k is base salary, there are other escalator type clauses that boost them up each year.

Trust me on this. I know how they work.

Just stop promoting that he got $750K.

Maybe he was only getting $250K at Miami? So your point about him "doubling" his Miami salary might be accurate.

But he didn't get $750K from Alabama.

He's "only" getting $700K from Oregon to be the co-oc.

Mario Cristobal officially added to Oregon Ducks football staff | OregonLive.com

Base salary you clown. I know plenty, brother has coached at USF, Michigan, WVU, through his career. I don't come on here and post bull****

LOL at $275k bonuses for a position corch.
 
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