Manny believes in the Defense

Rumph would be first on my list.

Idk man there has some been some atrocious play calling with baker. I know fundamentally manny won’t go away from his defensive philosophy but baker is doing a bad job executing manny’s love child.

Patke has good specialists not special teams coaching. He should’ve never been promoted. I’ve yet to see what baker or patke do on the recruiting trail.
Baker could fck up a cup of coffee but I just don't see bleeding heart Manny ruining the guy's life.

On a lighter note, it was nice to see Hunte start ahead of Ford:

Jared Harrison-Hunte started ahead of Ford at defensive tackle and played more snaps than Ford, 43 to 22. Defensive coordinator Blake Baker said that was the byproduct of the fact that “Jared had been producing more. It’s a production based business. Both played well Friday."
 
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The most important and TRUE comment in the Manny article is this: CFB will never play rough/tough defense anymore....anywhere.

WHY?

Simple: Statistically Defenders run the HIGHEST risk of injury-- not just for CTE but various career ending joint injuries ....

Defensive players are now all going to start dialing back their aggressiveness and save themselves for a shot at the NFL with a health body and brain.

The coaches are all millionaires now on the backs of mostly poor, inner city kids-- many of who blow out knees and multimillion dollar NFL potential payouts before they even get to the draft. Every kid in CFB with potential now know they need to look out for themselves.

Neither Manny, Saban, Dabo or any millionaire coach is going to give a star player a pension fund when he blows his knee out trying to win so the coach can get a few more million$ on his next contract.

I support the players.
for the life of me i don't understand the protocols in college and player safety : in the 80 & 90's they used to carried at least 95 scholarship players and prior to that more scholly's : they only played 10 games plus one bowl game. Today you could actually play up 15 games yet most teams don't even carry the 85 limit: that is why they are always rushing players back, and start playing freshmen who may not be ready physically : Also why is blocking below the knees even allow, that was criminal the way GT used to block when they ran that option crap;
 
But we’ve already seen it here for the yrs. lol. We’ve had coaches keep incompetent staff members due to friendship. Maybe Manny is a type A, win at all cost, personality. Right now, he appears to be a guy w great politician skills, w a nice story of moving from the video editing dept to a head coach.
Brother I hope you are wrong and I am right. Nothing personal. I just need to see this glass half full or what‘s the point anymore if we’re just cheering for the equivalent of UVA. No offense to UVA fans. Great school, mediocre football team.
 
for the life of me i don't understand the protocols in college and player safety : in the 80 & 90's they used to carried at least 95 scholarship players and prior to that more scholly's : they only played 10 games plus one bowl game. Today you could actually play up 15 games yet most teams don't even carry the 85 limit: that is why they are always rushing players back, and start playing freshmen who may not be ready physically : Also why is blocking below the knees even allow, that was criminal the way GT used to block when they ran that option crap;
I think it’s more about the cost of scholarship more than safety. College tuition had risen so much that it is just more “expensive” from a tuition dollar standpoint to give kids full rides than it was on the 80’s and 90’s.
which of course again means that money wins over safety.
 
LOL.....I think Glenn Cook & Romeo Davis are still being dragged through downtown Atlanta by Georgia Tech's B back.

Some of y'all have some REALLy short memories, that's for sure.

****, we have DL that are faster now than Cook/Davis. I still would like to see more of Brooks, Steed, and Flagg.
 
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Brother I hope you are wrong and I am right. Nothing personal. I just need to see this glass half full or what‘s the point anymore if we’re just cheering for the equivalent of UVA. No offense to UVA fans. Great school, mediocre football team.
Welcome back, btw, chief.

I’m hoping u’re right as well. I may post critical assessments of this program (simply b/c I’ve seen enough to make honest assessments which normally comes to fruition), but I keep going down aisle 9 of my local grocery store looking to pick up crow meat.
 
Welcome back, btw, chief.

I’m hoping u’re right as well. I may post critical assessments of this program (simply b/c I’ve seen enough to make honest assessments which normally comes to fruition), but I keep going down aisle 9 of my local grocery store looking to pick up crow meat.
Appreciate that. I was just happy to have had my sentence reduced from 2 weeks to 2 days. Feels good to be on the outside again.
 
Yes, but Shaq & Pinck committed to Miami in the Summer of 2014. So yes, Richt/Diaz may have coached & signed them, but Golden recruited & they stayed true. So technically those were Golden’s players.
Diaz's defenses have gotten progressively worse as Folden's players left. His best D, by a mile, was with Folden recruits in their prime.

Prove me wrong.
 
Dude, how many guys “committed” to Golden early and then ended up signing with FSU or Alabama or anywhere else? If we’re giving credit for “commits” then AG is the GOAT recruiter.
I agree w that. But I think what I’m getting at is they weren’t a Diaz/Richt evaluation. That’s why when I posted in another thread about our players in the NFL & their roles, compared to the staffs they were coached/recruited under, I gave a “technical credit” for Shaq & Pinck being in the NFL under the recruitment of Richt & Diaz.
 
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Diaz's defenses have gotten progressively worse as Folden's players left. His best D, by a mile, was with Folden recruits in their prime.

Prove me wrong.
Chise, I did a whole assessment on this in another thread, b/c those were my exact feelings. When I took a look at our rosters (2016-2019 at that time), what players were on that roster & who they were recruited by, and how our #’s waned each season as Golden’s players moved on, it was clear as day. U r 100% correct.
 
I agree w that. But I think what I’m getting at is they weren’t a Diaz/Richt evaluation. That’s why when I posted in another thread about our players in the NFL & their roles, compared to the staffs they were coached/recruited under, I gave a “technical credit” for Shaq & Pinck being in the NFL under the recruitment of Richt & Diaz.
Shaq and Pink were Folden guys. Period. They actually only considered leaving when we didn't have a HC.
 
Chise, I did a whole assessment on this in another thread, b/c those were my exact feelings. When I took a look at our rosters (2016-2019 at that time), what players were on that roster & who they were recruited by, and how our #’s waned each season as Golden’s players moved on, it was clear as day. U r 100% correct.
I didn't see that, brother, but I'm not surprised my feeling are validated by your facts. That 2017 D was pretty **** legit. Compare that to the garbage we're seeing this year.
 
I didn't see that, brother, but I'm not surprised my feeling are validated by your facts. That 2017 D was pretty **** legit. Compare that to the garbage we're seeing this year.
2017 defense had 2-3 legit players on all levels. Since that season we've been strong one place and wael in another.
Boy if today's version of King had been our quarterback in 2017, who knows where that season would have gone, even with the injuries to Walton and Herndon.
 
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Chise, I did a whole assessment on this in another thread, b/c those were my exact feelings. When I took a look at our rosters (2016-2019 at that time), what players were on that roster & who they were recruited by, and how our #’s waned each season as Golden’s players moved on, it was clear as day. U r 100% correct.
I agree 100% with your assessment @Rellyrell. i feel it's getting worse by the class.
 
How much blame can we really put on the talent pool and recruiting with 18 blue chip recruits among 35 scholarship athletes on defense. The issue is Baker's motherfckin sorry *** imo.
 
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Shaq and Pink were Folden guys. Period. They actually only considered leaving when we didn't have a HC.

As were Norton, McIntosh, Jaquan, Jenkins, Elder, and others.

We haven't been recruiting well enough to replace those guys, and people forget, not all of them were out tier 1 targets.

This class is crucial. We're 6-1 and regardless of how the ACC shakes out, we need to finish strong. We haven't done put together a complete season in over decade.

We've got 4 games left, none of the 1-3, 2-2 ****. Coach your asses off and win them all, so we get the infusion of talent and athletic ability we desperately need... except at CB as usual.
 
YPP, as I mentioned earlier, is down slightly. Down meaning it’s higher, and worse. We’re currently giving up 5.41 a play, which is 41st. No defense since Manny has been here has finished a season worse than 14th, so we’ve got some work to do.

Plays per point stands at 3.05 plays per point. We’ve faced 510 plays, and given up 167 points (really 174 but I took the 7 from the kickoff return last week out).

For comparison’s sake, the best scoring defense in Manny’s tenure was 2016, we gave up 238 points, which was 19.8 a game. Plays per point that year was 3.97 plays per point. So, down about 22% from that year. Not great.

Yep.

if it takes 22% less plays to score, that's not good. the other reason i like that metric is that it credits the defense proportionately when they force a punt, a FG, or get a turnover.

probably should also compare FPP (first downs per possession) as i am pretty sure we are underperforming in that one as well.

(it's a good one to compare with 3rd down conversions because if you are giving up 5+ yards a play, you never even get to 3rd down as the opponent marches their way down the field).
 
Baker could fck up a cup of coffee but I just don't see bleeding heart Manny ruining the guy's life.

On a lighter note, it was nice to see Hunte start ahead of Ford:

Jared Harrison-Hunte started ahead of Ford at defensive tackle and played more snaps than Ford, 43 to 22. Defensive coordinator Blake Baker said that was the byproduct of the fact that “Jared had been producing more. It’s a production based business. Both played well Friday."
Yeah it is nice, I thought between him and blisset that he would be the lesser of the two.

Hopefully we see more of couch, keontra and some rotation at de
 
psych 101...ya'll are crazy if you think he's gonna come out and publicly bash the D and have it all over social media how the D is to blame for everything...foh with that.
he needs to be a silent assassin about this anyway and clean some house after the season...what we got aint changing mid season..please.
#Truth
 
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