IMO its really now or never for Huff. We are as depleted at LB as you can get. You cant get on the field now?....****... just call it a day and hit the portal come January. Nice knowing you.
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Live Observations of the U VS. App St. - King, LB's, Press Cover, etc....
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I would take App St’s entire staff over our staph
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Regarding #1,
We saw this over pursuit by Jennings and Steed last year. When I watched the plays in slow motion I could see what they were doing. They were simply running to a spot where the thought the RB would be because they are too slow to chase the RB from the back hip. One difference that could help them is that these DEs are setting an edge where the guys last year didn't even though they were much better and now in the NFL. Philipps and Rouche often got too high going upfield as though every play was a pass play. This hurt us against the RPO where UNC killed. The high upfield movement created a gap where there was no contain where Jennings and Steed needed to scrape to the outside with the DE's pushing upfield. They would either get beat to the outside or over pursue and the RB cut back. This pretty much started in the Clemson game where there was no way they could get to Travis Etienne. So, when the ball was snapped and the RB would move in a direction, they would just guess where he would be because they couldn't chase him down. The ultimate exposure was the UNC game.
I have lost all faith in Diaz. For me, he just spits BS in his press conferences that don't help him or the program.
The Diaz quote on Steed:
"Waynmon went in there I thought he did a nice job. He's been here a long time, he's been through it, he knows what to do, and right now he's being reward for his perseverance." Rewarded for his perseverance? C'mon man!!!! Knowing what to do and being able to execute are two entirely different things. Saying he did a "nice job" when his PFF grade is low, just blows smoke up are asses and doesn't help Steed or the team. It's simple. Play the guys that give you the best chance to win.
Steed had a PFF grade of 21.8 for his tackling against Alabama, but improved to 60.9 against App St. However, his overall overall PFF grade against App St was 49.5 in 47 snaps. That grade is below average. You'd want your guys in the 70's and above.
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For the record, I think Steed is better than Jennings. So, the fact that Steed grades low in his performances, doesn't leave much to be desired for Jennings. Both are 5th year juniors with another year of eligibility. What happens next year? Do they still get reps based on their perseverance? If I'm Huff or Austin-Cave, I've got to be frustrated given other LB's are out with injuries. Huff is supposed to get playing time against MSU. I'd like to see Austin-Cave in there as well.
I'm sorry Steed and Jennings had injuries and I commend both of them for their perseverance to overcome those injuries. However, this is sport. It's competition. If you're in a boxing match, the judges don't give you the win because you persevered thru injury, but got your *** lit up in the fight. It doesn't work that way. Nor should it in football.
We saw this over pursuit by Jennings and Steed last year. When I watched the plays in slow motion I could see what they were doing. They were simply running to a spot where the thought the RB would be because they are too slow to chase the RB from the back hip. One difference that could help them is that these DEs are setting an edge where the guys last year didn't even though they were much better and now in the NFL. Philipps and Rouche often got too high going upfield as though every play was a pass play. This hurt us against the RPO where UNC killed. The high upfield movement created a gap where there was no contain where Jennings and Steed needed to scrape to the outside with the DE's pushing upfield. They would either get beat to the outside or over pursue and the RB cut back. This pretty much started in the Clemson game where there was no way they could get to Travis Etienne. So, when the ball was snapped and the RB would move in a direction, they would just guess where he would be because they couldn't chase him down. The ultimate exposure was the UNC game.
I have lost all faith in Diaz. For me, he just spits BS in his press conferences that don't help him or the program.
The Diaz quote on Steed:
"Waynmon went in there I thought he did a nice job. He's been here a long time, he's been through it, he knows what to do, and right now he's being reward for his perseverance." Rewarded for his perseverance? C'mon man!!!! Knowing what to do and being able to execute are two entirely different things. Saying he did a "nice job" when his PFF grade is low, just blows smoke up are asses and doesn't help Steed or the team. It's simple. Play the guys that give you the best chance to win.
Steed had a PFF grade of 21.8 for his tackling against Alabama, but improved to 60.9 against App St. However, his overall overall PFF grade against App St was 49.5 in 47 snaps. That grade is below average. You'd want your guys in the 70's and above.
LB Avery Huff has opportunity with Keontra Smith out
Third-year seldom-used linebacker Avery Huff has an opportunity to earn substantial playing time with the injury to starter Keontra Smith.
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For the record, I think Steed is better than Jennings. So, the fact that Steed grades low in his performances, doesn't leave much to be desired for Jennings. Both are 5th year juniors with another year of eligibility. What happens next year? Do they still get reps based on their perseverance? If I'm Huff or Austin-Cave, I've got to be frustrated given other LB's are out with injuries. Huff is supposed to get playing time against MSU. I'd like to see Austin-Cave in there as well.
I'm sorry Steed and Jennings had injuries and I commend both of them for their perseverance to overcome those injuries. However, this is sport. It's competition. If you're in a boxing match, the judges don't give you the win because you persevered thru injury, but got your *** lit up in the fight. It doesn't work that way. Nor should it in football.
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I want to see physical play against WRs. Playing press doesn't help you (in fact it hurts you) if you don't get your hands on the WR and reroute his *** from where he wants to go. OP's observation of free WR releases against App St is disturbing. I can't believe TRob would allow that to happen.
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Doesn’t this seem *** backwards? If you’re aggressive up front, the easy throws need to be taken away. It’s almost counter intuitive to be aggressive up front and soft on the back end. Jamming these receivers and adjusting their route would make more sense to me. That quarterback won’t have such an easy outlet. Instead manny gives the QB an easy throw with nothing but green grass around the receiver
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Yep.
Watch when we get shredded , it’s all quick passes or intermediate and it’s obvious in pre snap what’s open. If the oc is worth his salt its fish in a barrel.
Manny has a rep of overthinking things or being the smartest guy in the room. Just read the comments about manny by acc coaches every off season.
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We mocked those coaches a few years ago, but they are pretty spot on. It could be revisionist history but it really doesn’t look like the same defense we were running with Mike Jack and them. Maybe McIntosh and Willis blinded me and made the back end less relevant.
Exactly - I think TS is what you want when playing press. Big strong kid who is athletic, given they have him returning punts, etc. I also think AL blades can excel at press coverage. He's very athletic, and he's put on some good size. He's always been able to recover quick, and done a good job at finding the ball in the air. I felt he has always struggled with soft zones, not positioning himself well, or late breaking on the ball. Blades is better in press man than he is in zone (likely less thinking, just be an athlete and make plays). To me, Ivey looks the part, but he just cant find the ball in the air.
The types of recruits we target and have coming in are those long type DB's, which would align with press coverage. Also to your point @Cribby, They ran it at the end of the game with TS - So why not sprinkle it in through the first 3 quarters 40% of snaps, maybe build up to 60-65%. Manny stated in pre season he wanted to get back to that as it decreased under Baker to something like 20-30% on the entire year.
Yea, it would help disrupt the timing at the very least which we needed, especially given our stats on third down defense. Its likely much more would come out of it as well, pressures, sacks, turnovers.
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These Freshman ain’t happy at all and your right King can’t see over the line of scrimmage
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Exactly!!!! Look at what teams like Alabama and Clemson do. Especially Clemson. They take away the easy throws and dare you to beat them with more difficult deep throws if your WRs can get off of their physical coverage. What we do makes not sense. It's like a bend, but don't break defense relying on the D-Line to make a negative play so that you get them in 3rd and long for which you're happy to give up an easy throw under the sticks make the tackle, and get off the field. That's what this defense is and relies on.
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I think the freshman will get burn against Central Connecticut State. I don't see most of them playing this weekend unless we some how blow out MSU.
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I agree with all you said, man. The bolded part is a lil different tho. I heard that dude has 10.2 100m speed. Blades won't EVER catch a dude that can put up that kind of number. Maybe we should have recruited his ***!
That's fair. @Jassid82 made a similar response. That dude was definitely fast and I probably should have been more clear that my issue was the bad angles and lack of urgency I saw from Carter and especially Blades. You guy are both right that there was no way Blades was catching that man in the last 50 yards.
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But we have been saying the same thing about Brooks and Huff for 2 years and have gotten nothing from either one of them.
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I was hopeful Schoop would help fix some of our glaring issues but it seems he's just another yes man collecting a free pay check.
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Have you seen brooks this szn?
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Nope and he was banged up most of last year as well. Love the kids potential but potential does nothing for us if the guy is always hurt.
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He *has* to be the smartest guy in the room because of the lack of credentials. He never played the game. So he doesn't really know what s it's like to be on the field. plus he has a lisp which has to,affect his confidence. The over-intellectualism is a reaction to both
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