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Lingard wasn’t even dressed in that game as he was in the protocolGood point
Lingard wasn’t even dressed in that game as he was in the protocolGood point
Maybe he just isn't as good as those ahead of him on the depth chart. Sports are filled with players who work their butts off, but just aren't as good as those ahead of them on the depth chart.
Working your "butt off" doesn't guarantee you playing time.
Yeah I saw after thxLingard wasn’t even dressed in that game as he was in the protocol
Kenny McIntosh even has 13 carries for 128 yards.
PREACH!!!!!!!The Canes sucking has forced my hand to watch all of CFB. Ppl will soon realize that when I say chit on this board, I’m not just talking chit. After 2013, I became a CFB fan v. solely focusing on Miami. And all I’m left wondering is based upon the excuses this fan base use time and time again to justify incompetence, mediocrity, lack of player development, y don’t I see these perpetual habits elsewhere?
We’ve heard, ‘well the reason y we’re 0-2 to start the season is b/c we have a freshman QB.’
-Johnny Manziel took A&M to new heights as a RS Fr.
-Justin Fields is now 3-0
-The Crab Thief took FSU to new heights as a RS Fr.
-Tua came fresh off the bench down 20 at half to win a Nat’l Championship as a True Fr.
-Trevor Lawrence just methodically picked apart a defense some claimed as a top 10 all time for a National Title as a True Fr.
-Sam Howell just started his career 2-0 against two P5 opponents, including leading a 4th qtr come back against us, to start the season.
We’ve heard, ‘well Manny is a 1st yr coach, that’s y we’re struggling.
-Chris Petersen’s first yr he went 13-0
-Fisher went 10-4 first yr
-Eli Drinkwitz has started 3-0 at App St including JUST beating a P5 school, the school we lost to.
-Rod Carey went 12-2 in his 1st yr, is now at Temple, and just beat a P5 team
-Ryan Day is now 7-0 to start his coaching career, and he’s 3-0 this season w a new QB
We’ve heard, ‘well the team is full of divas, that’s y we can’t win.’
-UGA
-Bama
-Clemson
-LSU
-OSU
-Oklahoma
-Texas
-PSU
All of them have way higher profiled recruits than us, and are winning w no issues
We’ve heard ‘it’s our lack of talent, that’s why we’re losing.
-We’ve out recruited EVERYONE in the Coastal and dang near everyone in the ACC w the exception of Clemson & FSU
-We’ve out recruited Wisconsin, yet we got smashed twice by them.
-We’re out recruiting UVA, yet we couldn’t score 17 points on them.
-We’ve out recruited Boise St
-We’ve out recruited Utah
-We’ve out recruited KSU
-We’ve out recruited Iowa
And all those teams are top 25
‘But we have a loaded back field bro; Lo can’t play.’
-See FSU during Dalvin years
-See Bama last yr
-See Clemson
-See UGA
-See ND
I swear I’m not trying to be on my hood down tip, but some of these mofos got excuses to explain excuses. Excuses are tools of the incompetence, and no, I didn’t expect Manny to be some world beater, but he decided to run his mouth to give us the feel he’ll be a world beater. Some things r excusable, but majority of this chit, unexplainable show that’s going on, is not.
Now fight me on anything I just laid out.
Drops mic....The Canes sucking has forced my hand to watch all of CFB. Ppl will soon realize that when I say chit on this board, I’m not just talking chit. After 2013, I became a CFB fan v. solely focusing on Miami. And all I’m left wondering is based upon the excuses this fan base use time and time again to justify incompetence, mediocrity, lack of player development, y don’t I see these perpetual habits elsewhere?
We’ve heard, ‘well the reason y we’re 0-2 to start the season is b/c we have a freshman QB.’
-Johnny Manziel took A&M to new heights as a RS Fr.
-Justin Fields is now 3-0
-The Crab Thief took FSU to new heights as a RS Fr.
-Tua came fresh off the bench down 20 at half to win a Nat’l Championship as a True Fr.
-Trevor Lawrence just methodically picked apart a defense some claimed as a top 10 all time for a National Title as a True Fr.
-Sam Howell just started his career 2-0 against two P5 opponents, including leading a 4th qtr come back against us, to start the season.
We’ve heard, ‘well Manny is a 1st yr coach, that’s y we’re struggling.
-Chris Petersen’s first yr he went 13-0
-Fisher went 10-4 first yr
-Eli Drinkwitz has started 3-0 at App St including JUST beating a P5 school, the school we lost to.
-Rod Carey went 12-2 in his 1st yr, is now at Temple, and just beat a P5 team
-Ryan Day is now 7-0 to start his coaching career, and he’s 3-0 this season w a new QB
We’ve heard, ‘well the team is full of divas, that’s y we can’t win.’
-UGA
-Bama
-Clemson
-LSU
-OSU
-Oklahoma
-Texas
-PSU
All of them have way higher profiled recruits than us, and are winning w no issues
We’ve heard ‘it’s our lack of talent, that’s why we’re losing.
-We’ve out recruited EVERYONE in the Coastal and dang near everyone in the ACC w the exception of Clemson & FSU
-We’ve out recruited Wisconsin, yet we got smashed twice by them.
-We’re out recruiting UVA, yet we couldn’t score 17 points on them.
-We’ve out recruited Boise St
-We’ve out recruited Utah
-We’ve out recruited KSU
-We’ve out recruited Iowa
And all those teams are top 25
‘But we have a loaded back field bro; Lo can’t play.’
-See FSU during Dalvin years
-See Bama last yr
-See Clemson
-See UGA
-See ND
I swear I’m not trying to be on my hood down tip, but some of these mofos got excuses to explain excuses. Excuses are tools of the incompetence, and no, I didn’t expect Manny to be some world beater, but he decided to run his mouth to give us the feel he’ll be a world beater. Some things r excusable, but majority of this unexplainable, chit of a show that’s going on, is not.
Now fight me on anything I just laid out.
The Canes sucking has forced my hand to watch all of CFB. Ppl will soon realize that when I say chit on this board, I’m not just talking chit. After 2013, I became a CFB fan v. solely focusing on Miami. And all I’m left wondering is based upon the excuses this fan base use time and time again to justify incompetence, mediocrity, lack of player development, y don’t I see these perpetual habits elsewhere?
We’ve heard, ‘well the reason y we’re 0-2 to start the season is b/c we have a freshman QB.’
-Johnny Manziel took A&M to new heights as a RS Fr.
-Justin Fields is now 3-0
-The Crab Thief took FSU to new heights as a RS Fr.
-Tua came fresh off the bench down 20 at half to win a Nat’l Championship as a True Fr.
-Trevor Lawrence just methodically picked apart a defense some claimed as a top 10 all time for a National Title as a True Fr.
-Sam Howell just started his career 2-0 against two P5 opponents, including leading a 4th qtr come back against us, to start the season.
We’ve heard, ‘well Manny is a 1st yr coach, that’s y we’re struggling.
-Chris Petersen’s first yr he went 13-0
-Fisher went 10-4 first yr
-Eli Drinkwitz has started 3-0 at App St including JUST beating a P5 school, the school we lost to.
-Rod Carey went 12-2 in his 1st yr, is now at Temple, and just beat a P5 team
-Ryan Day is now 7-0 to start his coaching career, and he’s 3-0 this season w a new QB
We’ve heard, ‘well the team is full of divas, that’s y we can’t win.’
-UGA
-Bama
-Clemson
-LSU
-OSU
-Oklahoma
-Texas
-PSU
All of them have way higher profiled recruits than us, and are winning w no issues
We’ve heard ‘it’s our lack of talent, that’s why we’re losing.
-We’ve out recruited EVERYONE in the Coastal and dang near everyone in the ACC w the exception of Clemson & FSU
-We’ve out recruited Wisconsin, yet we got smashed twice by them.
-We’re out recruiting UVA, yet we couldn’t score 17 points on them.
-We’ve out recruited Boise St
-We’ve out recruited Utah
-We’ve out recruited KSU
-We’ve out recruited Iowa
And all those teams are top 25
‘But we have a loaded back field bro; Lo can’t play.’
-See FSU during Dalvin years
-See Bama last yr
-See Clemson
-See UGA
-See ND
I swear I’m not trying to be on my hood down tip, but some of these mofos got excuses to explain excuses. Excuses are tools of the incompetence, and no, I didn’t expect Manny to be some world beater, but he decided to run his mouth to give us the feel he’ll be a world beater. Some things r excusable, but majority of this unexplainable, chit of a show that’s going on, is not.
Now fight me on anything I just laid out.
The Canes sucking has forced my hand to watch all of CFB. Ppl will soon realize that when I say chit on this board, I’m not just talking chit. After 2013, I became a CFB fan v. solely focusing on Miami. And all I’m left wondering is based upon the excuses this fan base use time and time again to justify incompetence, mediocrity, lack of player development, y don’t I see these perpetual habits elsewhere?
We’ve heard, ‘well the reason y we’re 0-2 to start the season is b/c we have a freshman QB.’
-Johnny Manziel took A&M to new heights as a RS Fr.
-Justin Fields is now 3-0
-The Crab Thief took FSU to new heights as a RS Fr.
-Tua came fresh off the bench down 20 at half to win a Nat’l Championship as a True Fr.
-Trevor Lawrence just methodically picked apart a defense some claimed as a top 10 all time for a National Title as a True Fr.
-Sam Howell just started his career 2-0 against two P5 opponents, including leading a 4th qtr come back against us, to start the season.
We’ve heard, ‘well Manny is a 1st yr coach, that’s y we’re struggling.
-Chris Petersen’s first yr he went 13-0
-Fisher went 10-4 first yr
-Eli Drinkwitz has started 3-0 at App St including JUST beating a P5 school, the school we lost to.
-Rod Carey went 12-2 in his 1st yr, is now at Temple, and just beat a P5 team
-Ryan Day is now 7-0 to start his coaching career, and he’s 3-0 this season w a new QB
We’ve heard, ‘well the team is full of divas, that’s y we can’t win.’
-UGA
-Bama
-Clemson
-LSU
-OSU
-Oklahoma
-Texas
-PSU
All of them have way higher profiled recruits than us, and are winning w no issues
We’ve heard ‘it’s our lack of talent, that’s why we’re losing.
-We’ve out recruited EVERYONE in the Coastal and dang near everyone in the ACC w the exception of Clemson & FSU
-We’ve out recruited Wisconsin, yet we got smashed twice by them.
-We’re out recruiting UVA, yet we couldn’t score 17 points on them.
-We’ve out recruited Boise St
-We’ve out recruited Utah
-We’ve out recruited KSU
-We’ve out recruited Iowa
And all those teams are top 25
‘But we have a loaded back field bro; Lo can’t play.’
-See FSU during Dalvin years
-See Bama last yr
-See Clemson
-See UGA
-See ND
I swear I’m not trying to be on my hood down tip, but some of these mofos got excuses to explain excuses. Excuses are tools of the incompetence, and no, I didn’t expect Manny to be some world beater, but he decided to run his mouth to give us the feel he’ll be a world beater. Some things r excusable, but majority of this unexplainable, chit of a show that’s going on, is not.
Now fight me on anything I just laid out.
The Canes sucking has forced my hand to watch all of CFB. Ppl will soon realize that when I say chit on this board, I’m not just talking chit. After 2013, I became a CFB fan v. solely focusing on Miami. And all I’m left wondering is based upon the excuses this fan base use time and time again to justify incompetence, mediocrity, lack of player development, y don’t I see these perpetual habits elsewhere?
We’ve heard, ‘well the reason y we’re 0-2 to start the season is b/c we have a freshman QB.’
-Johnny Manziel took A&M to new heights as a RS Fr.
-Justin Fields is now 3-0
-The Crab Thief took FSU to new heights as a RS Fr.
-Tua came fresh off the bench down 20 at half to win a Nat’l Championship as a True Fr.
-Trevor Lawrence just methodically picked apart a defense some claimed as a top 10 all time for a National Title as a True Fr.
-Sam Howell just started his career 2-0 against two P5 opponents, including leading a 4th qtr come back against us, to start the season.
-****, USC's 3rd string QB who hadn't thrown a ball since his freshman yr of high school, just popped off the bench and beat a top 10 team!
We’ve heard, ‘well Manny is a 1st yr coach, that’s y we’re struggling.
-Chris Petersen’s first yr he went 13-0
-Fisher went 10-4 first yr
-Eli Drinkwitz has started 3-0 at App St including JUST beating a P5 school, the school we lost to.
-Rod Carey went 12-2 in his 1st yr, is now at Temple, and just beat a P5 team
-Ryan Day is now 7-0 to start his coaching career, and he’s 3-0 this season w a new QB
We’ve heard, ‘well the team is full of divas, that’s y we can’t win.’
-UGA
-Bama
-Clemson
-LSU
-OSU
-Oklahoma
-Texas
-PSU
All of them have way higher profiled recruits than us, and are winning w no issues
We’ve heard ‘it’s our lack of talent, that’s why we’re losing.
-We’ve out recruited EVERYONE in the Coastal and dang near everyone in the ACC w the exception of Clemson & FSU
-We’ve out recruited Wisconsin, yet we got smashed twice by them.
-We’re out recruiting UVA, yet we couldn’t score 17 points on them.
-We’ve out recruited Boise St
-We’ve out recruited Utah
-We’ve out recruited KSU
-We’ve out recruited Iowa
And all those teams are top 25
‘But we have a loaded back field bro; Lo can’t play.’
-See FSU during Dalvin years
-See Bama last yr
-See Clemson
-See UGA
-See ND
I swear I’m not trying to be on my hood down tip, but some of these mofos got excuses to explain excuses. Excuses are tools of the incompetence, and no, I didn’t expect Manny to be some world beater, but he decided to run his mouth to give us the feel he’ll be a world beater. Some things r excusable, but majority of this unexplainable, chit of a show that’s going on, is not.
Now fight me on anything I just laid out.
But imagine if we had app states talent. Then we could beat unc.This might be the most inarguable post I’ve ever read on here
Facts. Throw him in there to take hits to his knee lol.I don't want for us to lose Lingard because he's frustrated about playing time. No matter the reason, losing elite talent will not help us get to where we want to go. We've generally got to find a way to make sure we do the best we can to work with guys that aren't happy about their playing time. I know that all of us are frustrated with our team this year, and for the past 18 years.
All that being said, i'm not really sure how this one is on our coaches. Lingard hurt his knee substantially enough that he was not medically cleared for his knee until a couple weeks ago. Then, in practice, he sustains a concussion (per Tweed), and ends up in the protocol. Then, in a game where we thought we would have a chance to play some of our backups, we inexplicably end up in a dogfight. We all wanted to see him finally play against Central Michigan, but do people honestly think this was the right time to get him in?
Our offensive line was getting blown up. He hadn't faced game action in a year. Both of our starting RBs have arguably been our best offensive players this season. This largely wasn't a case of them being ineffective because of something they did (Harris did bounce that one run where it looked like he had a lane). To suggest that we would put him in to face this situation is pretty unrealistic. Now, should all of that be communicated to him so that he understands where he stands in the rotation? Yes, that seems like a better way to handle it. But if the complaint is that he is frustrated he hasn't played, i'm just not seeing it.
The Canes sucking has forced my hand to watch all of CFB. Ppl will soon realize that when I say chit on this board, I’m not just talking chit. After 2013, I became a CFB fan v. solely focusing on Miami. And all I’m left wondering is based upon the excuses this fan base use time and time again to justify incompetence, mediocrity, lack of player development, y don’t I see these perpetual habits elsewhere?
We’ve heard, ‘well the reason y we’re 0-2 to start the season is b/c we have a freshman QB.’
-Johnny Manziel took A&M to new heights as a RS Fr.
-Justin Fields is now 3-0
-The Crab Thief took FSU to new heights as a RS Fr.
-Tua came fresh off the bench down 20 at half to win a Nat’l Championship as a True Fr.
-Trevor Lawrence just methodically picked apart a defense some claimed as a top 10 all time for a National Title as a True Fr.
-Sam Howell just started his career 2-0 against two P5 opponents, including leading a 4th qtr come back against us, to start the season.
-****, USC's 3rd string QB who hadn't thrown a ball since his freshman yr of high school, just popped off the bench and beat a top 10 team!
We’ve heard, ‘well Manny is a 1st yr coach, that’s y we’re struggling.
-Chris Petersen’s first yr he went 13-0
-Fisher went 10-4 first yr
-Eli Drinkwitz has started 3-0 at App St including JUST beating a P5 school, the school we lost to.
-Rod Carey went 12-2 in his 1st yr, is now at Temple, and just beat a P5 team
-Ryan Day is now 7-0 to start his coaching career, and he’s 3-0 this season w a new QB
We’ve heard, ‘well the team is full of divas, that’s y we can’t win.’
-UGA
-Bama
-Clemson
-LSU
-OSU
-Oklahoma
-Texas
-PSU
All of them have way higher profiled recruits than us, and are winning w no issues
We’ve heard ‘it’s our lack of talent, that’s why we’re losing.
-We’ve out recruited EVERYONE in the Coastal and dang near everyone in the ACC w the exception of Clemson & FSU
-We’ve out recruited Wisconsin, yet we got smashed twice by them.
-We’re out recruiting UVA, yet we couldn’t score 17 points on them.
-We’ve out recruited Boise St
-We’ve out recruited Utah
-We’ve out recruited KSU
-We’ve out recruited Iowa
And all those teams are top 25
‘But we have a loaded back field bro; Lo can’t play.’
-See FSU during Dalvin years
-See Bama last yr
-See Clemson
-See UGA
-See ND
I swear I’m not trying to be on my hood down tip, but some of these mofos got excuses to explain excuses. Excuses are tools of the incompetence, and no, I didn’t expect Manny to be some world beater, but he decided to run his mouth to give us the feel he’ll be a world beater. Some things r excusable, but majority of this unexplainable, chit of a show that’s going on, is not.
Now fight me on anything I just laid out.
Zero lies detected.The Canes sucking has forced my hand to watch all of CFB. Ppl will soon realize that when I say chit on this board, I’m not just talking chit. After 2013, I became a CFB fan v. solely focusing on Miami. And all I’m left wondering is based upon the excuses this fan base use time and time again to justify incompetence, mediocrity, lack of player development, y don’t I see these perpetual habits elsewhere?
We’ve heard, ‘well the reason y we’re 0-2 to start the season is b/c we have a freshman QB.’
-Johnny Manziel took A&M to new heights as a RS Fr.
-Justin Fields is now 3-0
-The Crab Thief took FSU to new heights as a RS Fr.
-Tua came fresh off the bench down 20 at half to win a Nat’l Championship as a True Fr.
-Trevor Lawrence just methodically picked apart a defense some claimed as a top 10 all time for a National Title as a True Fr.
-Sam Howell just started his career 2-0 against two P5 opponents, including leading a 4th qtr come back against us, to start the season.
-****, USC's 3rd string QB who hadn't thrown a ball since his freshman yr of high school, just popped off the bench and beat a top 10 team!
We’ve heard, ‘well Manny is a 1st yr coach, that’s y we’re struggling.
-Chris Petersen’s first yr he went 13-0
-Fisher went 10-4 first yr
-Eli Drinkwitz has started 3-0 at App St including JUST beating a P5 school, the school we lost to.
-Rod Carey went 12-2 in his 1st yr, is now at Temple, and just beat a P5 team
-Ryan Day is now 7-0 to start his coaching career, and he’s 3-0 this season w a new QB
We’ve heard, ‘well the team is full of divas, that’s y we can’t win.’
-UGA
-Bama
-Clemson
-LSU
-OSU
-Oklahoma
-Texas
-PSU
All of them have way higher profiled recruits than us, and are winning w no issues
We’ve heard ‘it’s our lack of talent, that’s why we’re losing.
-We’ve out recruited EVERYONE in the Coastal and dang near everyone in the ACC w the exception of Clemson & FSU
-We’ve out recruited Wisconsin, yet we got smashed twice by them.
-We’re out recruiting UVA, yet we couldn’t score 17 points on them.
-We’ve out recruited Boise St
-We’ve out recruited Utah
-We’ve out recruited KSU
-We’ve out recruited Iowa
And all those teams are top 25
‘But we have a loaded back field bro; Lo can’t play.’
-See FSU during Dalvin years
-See Bama last yr
-See Clemson
-See UGA
-See ND
I swear I’m not trying to be on my hood down tip, but some of these mofos got excuses to explain excuses. Excuses are tools of the incompetence, and no, I didn’t expect Manny to be some world beater, but he decided to run his mouth to give us the feel he’ll be a world beater. Some things r excusable, but majority of this unexplainable, chit of a show that’s going on, is not.
Now fight me on anything I just laid out.
This might be the most inarguable post I’ve ever read on here
Totally agree is that asking to much??But imagine if we had app states talent. Then we could beat unc.
Miami fans kill me. Nobody here thinks we are a playoff team but there is no excuse to lose to unc or hang 17 on cmu.
All im asking for is a top 25 team for 4 or 5 years in a row so recruiting takes off. Shouldn't be hard at miami.
Not at all. Its on coaching. No reason for miami to not be a top 25 team every year with our recruiting.Totally agree is that asking to much??
I generally agree with all of this. It's unbelievably frustrating to see all these other teams be able to overcome the obstacles that fans/coaches/the administration use as excuses for why we aren't having success. That is especially true on your point on the other schools that are currently ranked that we have outrecruited for many years, yet those teams have much more on the field success recently. That clearly shows that our coaching/evaluation/development is seriously lacking, and we need to find ways to improve in all those areas. The bottom line is, there is simply no excuse why we should be a struggling/middle of the road ACC Coastal team with the talent we've had, especially in the division we are in, other than the poor coaching we've had in the program.
I also understand why that overall frustration with the program, coaches, players, etc., colors every decision, public statement, etc., that our coaches and players make. It's hard not to just be frustrated at everything after watching us the last 18 years.
But, all that being said, in this specific situation, I don't see how the coaches have done anything wrong OTHER than the apparent lack of communication, which I know is itself a big deal. We all want to see Lo play. We've all seen his high school highlights and a bit of what he's done here last year. We all want to see our best guys play so that we have the best chance to be good. But he's been hurt for a year and was finally cleared for the last game. I'm sure it's been frustrating that he's been hurt and he wants to get in there. And ultimately, we probably could have found him some carries.
But, as I said in an earlier post, Deejay and Cam have been very good this year, Deejay especially. Those guys have done nothing to warrant getting pulled. Have they been perfect? No. Are they "elite" Miami RBs? No, probably not. Does Lo have the potential to be that? Seems so. Should we find a way to get him involved during the season? Absolutely. But did the coaches make some huge mistake by not playing him in a much closer than expected game last weekend? I just don't see that.