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I dont know what other people saw but we were getting separation against FSU, even berrios was, so yea dont know what those people are saying
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Let's Define Pro Style Offense And Richt's Version
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I dont know what other people saw but we were getting separation against FSU, even berrios was, so yea dont know what those people are saying
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I'll give you credit ... You've been anti-Richt since before he was hired.
So, are you hoping to be proven right about Richt's inability to get us to the next level? Or, are you the guy that's gonna be "happy to be proven wrong and eat crow"?
(Answer Key: Neither are good options)
But keep knocking Richt in every thread. If he doesn't get it done, and "your team" stays irrelevant, at least you were "right".
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Agree
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Not directed at OP, but since when did everybody become a corch?
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N'Kosi running that offense, my body is ready
Is it true that posters don’t want to assign blame to Richt? If so, what is our basis to assign blame? Can we honestly say that we have seen Richt’s offense? Does anyone really know what pro style system he is actually running? And if so, what team up to this point has forced Richt’s hand to open up his play book? If you haven’t seen the playbook then how can you say that you understand the offense well enough to determine that you need an OC change?
When was the last time a coach created an offense around a college kid without the tools to run an NFL offense? 1979. Bill Walsh was going nowhere with Steve Deberg in a pro style offense. Joe Montana was too small and lacked the arm to succeed in the pro style, so he created the West Coast Offense and the rest is history.
We don’t have that problem at QB. Kayaa has all the tools needed to run a pro style offense. Our problem is on the OL. We all know that. The question for now is how innovative is Richt and Searels when it comes to blocking schemes and concepts with less talented OL players?
When was the last time a coach created an offense around a college kid without the tools to run an NFL offense? 1979. Bill Walsh was going nowhere with Steve Deberg in a pro style offense. Joe Montana was too small and lacked the arm to succeed in the pro style, so he created the West Coast Offense and the rest is history.
We don’t have that problem at QB. Kayaa has all the tools needed to run a pro style offense. Our problem is on the OL. We all know that. The question for now is how innovative is Richt and Searels when it comes to blocking schemes and concepts with less talented OL players?
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I appreciate you taking some time to run through those pro style variations and pose some interesting questions. I agree that nobody knows what's in Richt's playbook, but there isn't a lot of slack given around here. People are (rightly) ****ed about last weekends game and want to blame somebody. The two most high profile people are the coach and QB, so who do you think the finger gets pointed at? As for me, I think most of the blame goes to the OL, then Richt for not figuring out some **** to mask the OL deficiencies. Kayaa looked off, but I imagine getting his bell rung the first play of the game didn't help in that regard. Basically (unfortunately) all of the offensive players and coaches need to do better if we're going to have the success we'd all like to see. Hopefully that happens this year.
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Think we'd probably have won on Saturday, at least.
Unfortunately, I thought our offense should be better than last year.
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After the wrestling workout we hit the showers and let me tell you.....Life is a tough dig.
After the wrestling workout we hit the showers and let me tell you.....Life is a tough dig.
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And Ga fans want Coley gone because WRs are not getting any separation for Eason to throw to.to.
James Coley is not an architect, he is not an implementer. James Coley is a.....you know. He directed Jimbo Fisher’s offense so to speak.
Who else was an architect that Richt could have consulted with? James Coley does not have a big name QB on his resume. Mark Richt has eight drafted QB’s. Under Richt’s, watch (1990-2000) as the program’s quarterbacks coach and offensive coordinator, the Seminoles captured two national championships and a pair of passers Charlie Ward and Chris Weinke won the Heisman Trophy.
Mark Richt QB’s In NFL Draft:
Casey Weldon (FSU), Brad Johnson (FSU), Danny Kanell (FSU), Chris Weinke (FSU), David Greene (GA), D.J. Shockley (GA), Matthew Stafford (GA), Aaron Murray (GA)
The Keys To This Discussion:
• Understanding what is a Pro Style Offense.
• Understand what Richt is asking the QB (Kayaa) to do.
• Understand what you are actually seeing when you watch the offense on the field.
• Understand why the principles and concepts of the extensions are so important to learn and takes so long to master.
What The Fan Base Has To Do:
The Fan base has to forget everything that you hear about RPO’s, pure spread zone read and spread option using the option "kiddie college offenses". You are not going to see this with Kayaa as the QB. However, if N’Kosi comes and his tools are as advertised, as one poster wrote “oohhwee”!
When you get past the panic phase and you have the understanding of the five extensions of the pro set you will then have the knowledge needed to understand just how deadly this pro style offense will be. Keep in mind that it takes 10 to 14 starts for a QB to master the pro style offense and Kayaa has five. If we get Kayaa back for a second season and allow the future QB’s and OL to learn another year – look out!
Look what happened when an NFL team borrowed ideas from a college team...the current NE juggernaut. It goes back to my original question is Richt an architect, implementer or both?
After five games Richt has shown all five of the extensions of the pro set. These are the five basic principles that Richt’s QB’s have to master. This is the foundation.
Who else was an architect that Richt could have consulted with? James Coley does not have a big name QB on his resume. Mark Richt has eight drafted QB’s. Under Richt’s, watch (1990-2000) as the program’s quarterbacks coach and offensive coordinator, the Seminoles captured two national championships and a pair of passers Charlie Ward and Chris Weinke won the Heisman Trophy.
Mark Richt QB’s In NFL Draft:
Casey Weldon (FSU), Brad Johnson (FSU), Danny Kanell (FSU), Chris Weinke (FSU), David Greene (GA), D.J. Shockley (GA), Matthew Stafford (GA), Aaron Murray (GA)
The Keys To This Discussion:
• Understanding what is a Pro Style Offense.
• Understand what Richt is asking the QB (Kayaa) to do.
• Understand what you are actually seeing when you watch the offense on the field.
• Understand why the principles and concepts of the extensions are so important to learn and takes so long to master.
What The Fan Base Has To Do:
The Fan base has to forget everything that you hear about RPO’s, pure spread zone read and spread option using the option "kiddie college offenses". You are not going to see this with Kayaa as the QB. However, if N’Kosi comes and his tools are as advertised, as one poster wrote “oohhwee”!
When you get past the panic phase and you have the understanding of the five extensions of the pro set you will then have the knowledge needed to understand just how deadly this pro style offense will be. Keep in mind that it takes 10 to 14 starts for a QB to master the pro style offense and Kayaa has five. If we get Kayaa back for a second season and allow the future QB’s and OL to learn another year – look out!
Look what happened when an NFL team borrowed ideas from a college team...the current NE juggernaut. It goes back to my original question is Richt an architect, implementer or both?
After five games Richt has shown all five of the extensions of the pro set. These are the five basic principles that Richt’s QB’s have to master. This is the foundation.
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This crossed my mind this morning when I woke up, I was wondering what itd be like if Coley was the OC and had Richt for input on plays
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I cant wait for Perry to get here
Rich Rodriguez, Mike Leach, Dana Holgorsen, Urban Meyer, and Chris Petersen are all considered the premier offensive masterminds of today's college football. Now that Mark Richt has full control of his offense is he making his case as another offensive mastermind of today’s college football?
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