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King is a below average thrower, and we can’t beat good teams with him as a passer

nycane said:
Why did the offense open up when Perry came in the bowl game? Because king is not a thrower. Plain and simple.
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False. King is a better passer than perry and that’s a fact. The offense was different because lashlee insist on using designed runs with king. Perry isn’t a runner so with him in it just went to more spread looks
 
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With op takes like these u have to question if Miami deserves nice things..QB play is far from the difference in a ok 8-4 team to beating very good teams like UNC consistently..not to even mention being able to show up on a neutral site and beat a Bama or Clemson
 
I think highly of TVD & Garcia and believe they are both very talented. Against a stout Bama defense in a huge game on National TV, I'd go with King though because he's a leader, fighter, true dual threat (probably the toughest element for Bama to defend because it's the least predictable) and he has "it". He's an experienced winner.

At certain other positions (particularly WR & RB), less talented upperclassmen should not start over more talented young guys just because they are more experienced (see last yr with certain 5th yr guys looking lost out there & often completely out of position -- just doesn't make any sense to go with experience if there are no instincts & almost zero production whether its tackles, sacks or catches). Every position should be assessed every week during the season with only the most consistent & productive players playing. The competition should be fierce and complacency should never be allowed to happen (which did happen with the WR the first half of last year). If guys don't produce, they should ride the pine. JJ would never have accepted half-a@@ed efforts and neither should Manny. Unless they need to add considerable weight or strength to compete at the college level, play the most talented players regardless of their experience (except at QB against an elite program in the opener).
 
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fincane said:
The offense didn't open up. The offense was getting going on the drive that King got hurt. If Clark doesn't get called for holding the score is 21-14 with about 4 minutes to go. Instead King gets hurt and we settle for a FG. Cam Harris broke off a long TD run in the third and just like the offense has done all year Lashlee set up shot plays by forcing plays that he probably knew weren't going to work based on our OL. Perry's longest throw of the game was a 4th and 2 where he faked a QB run and Mallory slipped behind a safety or LB peaking in the backfield. Stuff we'd done all year. It worked because on the previous down Lashlee called an actual QB run play that got stuffed. The same as it had in the first half with King. Mallory got tackled inside the 5. 1st and goal was a wildcat play with Cam Harris that got us down to the 2. The next play same formation but Perry was back in at QB, he faked a run and lobbed one to Jordan who made a one-handed catch. More deception. Not because of Perry's ability to throw and open up the offense.

Just look at this throw by Perry. He probably cost Brevin a TD because of how poorly he threw it and you think that Perry entering the game as a thrower opened up the offense? This drive ended in a FG



Lets go to later in the game on the final drive. 3rd and long and Perry throws a ball behind Jordan on a slant. If he hits him in stride Jordan has a chance to break a tackle and gets a first a down and maybe more. King made a throw similar to this to Harley to beat NC State



But sure the offense opened up because a thrower was inserted.
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Well done
 
The Svengali said:
King is a very good leader, he’s experienced and he can do a lot with his feet, but he handicaps us because he can’t throw the ball against good teams. At best he’s mediocre, but if we’re being honest, he’s a below average passer. On top of that, the guy is “maybe” 5’9”, and because of his miniature stature he can’t see over the line and/or the throwing lanes.

King is a good teammate, good person and a good leader, but he is stunting the teams growth and there is no way we’re beating Bama, UNC or any other good team with him under center. It’s not going to happen. And now we’re talking about putting a 75% King out there this season? His strength is running, not throwing.

We need to start Van Dyke and get Garcia some snaps every game. King was a great stop gap option for 2020, but let’s be realistic. A non throwing, 75% King will hurt us far more than he will help us in 2021.
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The Svengali said:
King is a very good leader, he’s experienced and he can do a lot with his feet, but he handicaps us because he can’t throw the ball against good teams. At best he’s mediocre, but if we’re being honest, he’s a below average passer. On top of that, the guy is “maybe” 5’9”, and because of his miniature stature he can’t see over the line and/or the throwing lanes.

King is a good teammate, good person and a good leader, but he is stunting the teams growth and there is no way we’re beating Bama, UNC or any other good team with him under center. It’s not going to happen. And now we’re talking about putting a 75% King out there this season? His strength is running, not throwing.

We need to start Van Dyke and get Garcia some snaps every game. King was a great stop gap option for 2020, but let’s be realistic. A non throwing, 75% King will hurt us far more than he will help us in 2021.
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Spot on.
 
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