Kendal Briles education

This may very well be moot since there's heavy smoke that Joe Brady will be hired as the OC, but I just want to educate some folks on here cause I've seen some REALLY poor takes RE: Briles over the past couple days. And there were at least some mentions of mutual interest between Mario and Kendal, so potentially if the Brady stuff is untrue or falls through, i REALLY hope we jump all over Briles. Again, I'm not saying he'd come or that Mario would have him, but there is an active thread that supposedly someone is reporting that there is mutual interest. And I want you guys to understand that, if the starts align somehow, this guy would be a MONSTER hire for us.

First of all, if you're just going to point to his performance with FSU, namely against us in 2019, as your only evidence that he sucks, please just hit "back" on your browser now and find another thread. But we'll get there in a minute.

First of all, his resume:

We all know he's Art's son, and we all know some shady **** went down at Baylor. That's irrelevant at this point, he's been vetted by multiple schools and I'm not going to be the moral police here. It was multiple years ago.. But Art is a ******* genius at calling offensive football, and Kendal is certainly a chip off the old block.

He played at Houston until 2005, and joined his daddy's staff in 2008. He worked at Baylor for 9 years, watching Art blow the doors off college football for years before he was promoted to the OC in 2015.

What did Baylor do in 2015? Oh, not much, they just led the entire county in PPG against FBS competition at 46.6 PPG, went 10-3, and won the Citrus Bowl.

In 2016, the **** hit the fan with the sexual assault scandal, Art was fired in the spring, and they brought in Jim Grobe to be the HC. The team floundered, they went 7-6, they were still a Top 30 offense but it wasn't the prolific ****-fest that we were used to in years past.

2017 comes, Baylor is obviously nuked, and Briles leaves to go to FAU to work with Lane. So here is where his sample size really begins to take shape, because I know people are going to say the Baylor stuff was just because of his dad and Art was the maestro there. In 2017, FAU starts slow, but ends the season 7th in the country in scoring offense (40.2 PPG) and 9th in the country in YPP. They win a conference championship, and a Bowl Game.

2018 rolls around, Briles is lured away from Boca and ends up at his Alma Mater, Houston, working under Major Applewhite. In his first and only season in Houston, they finish 7th in the country in scoring offense (41.8 PPG), and 12th in the country in YPP. Unfortunately, our boy Mark Onofrio is the DC there, and they only finish the year 7-6. Side note, they were 92nd in the country in YPP allowed under Onofrio. El oh el.

2019, Willie comes calling at FSU, so Kendal packs his bags to Tallahassee. Here is where we become most familiar with him, of course, and where this perceived bad reputation somehow stems from. In 2019, FSU was terrible, and Taggart was fired midway through the season. The offense was not great, but when you compare it to where it was the year before, in 2018, Briles actually improved it rather considerably. Mind you, it's widely believed that FSU had the literal worst offensive line in the entire P5, and one of probably the 5-10 worst in all of FBS. He inherited James Blackman and Alex Hornibrook. It's been widely reported that Taggart meddled in the offense constantly, since he knew he was on the hot seat rather quickly. And here is still what Briles did:

107 to 70 in YPP
112 to 74 in scoring offense
128 to 105 in YPC
127 to 93 in Rushing yards per game
94 to 39 in passer rating
97 to 49 in Offensive SP+
97 to 65 in Offensive FEI

Not too shabby when you consider where they were, Year 1, and what he was working with.

Then in 2020, he goes to Arkansas, and they finish 81st in the country in scoring offense, and 53rd in the country in YPP. Not great, but in 2021, those numbers go to 44th in the country in scoring offense, and 27th in YPP. **** of an improvement, and pretty impressive when you consider that in 2018, 2019, 2020, and 2021, Arkansas BEST recruiting class in the SEC was 9th out of 14 teams, and that was 2021. So his older kids, those classes ranked 11th, 10th, and 14th. Talent deficiencies across the board. I think we can all agree that Arkansas isn't out-talenting many teams in the SEC West. But look at the improvement from before he got there. In 2019, Arkansas was 103rd in the country in F+ offensive ranking, which basically combines SP+ and FEI, two of the leading advanced metrics out right now. 2020, the number rose to 56th. In 2021, they're currently 24th. ABSURD improvement.

So let's wrap it all up. Here's a look at where teams were before and after he was the OC at FAU, FSU, Houston, and Arkansas:

FAU 2016 (90th in F+) -- 2017 with Briles (21st) -- 2018 (64th)
Houston 2017 (51st in F+) -- 2018 with Briles (26th) -- 2019 (60th)
FSU 2018 (97th in F+) -- 2019 with Briles (61st) -- 2020 (83rd)
2019 Houston (103rd in F+) -- 2020 with Briles (56th) -- 2021 with Briles (24th)

So, literally EVERY SINGLE STOP he's had in his career, the offense was worse the year before he got there, improved when he was there, and declined as soon as he left. Every single time. And this doesn't even include the Baylor years, where they were perennially the best offense in the entire country. Bottom line, this dude is so **** legit. Can you imagine what he'd do in the ******* ACC Coastal with a massive talent advantage, a superstar QB, Alex Mirabal coaching his OL, the skill players we have here......good lord. I like Brady a lot, but honestly this dude is even more consistently proven than Brady is. He's called plays at this level for years, with eye-popping IMMEDIATE results. What more can you possibly want? Give this dude all our skill and speed and watch out.
I went in to reading this feeling like Briles was trash. I read the whole thing. Good write up by the way.

I came away kind of unmoved to be honest. His best offenses were at Baylor and 2 G5 schools all of which the head coach was a known offensive guru at the time.

At FSU they were trash, you can throw all the stats and whatever else you want at me, but I watched with my eyes and he was trash.

Arkansas numbers are mediocre at best.

The argument of they improved when he got there and declined when he left doesn’t do much for me. It’s like, my son was getting F’s but got this new tutor and not he’s in the D-C range. The tutor left and now he’s a F again. But ****, I didn’t pay the tutor to be in the D-C range. I expected to get to the Bs or As with how much I am paying.

I just don’t see it. No matter how many compelling arguments everyone makes for this guy, I’m just not feeling it.

That being said, if hired I will absolutely root for the guy to do great things. I obviously want all of our coaches to do good here and root for their success until the day they leave. I hope he proves me wrong, but I’m still skeptical.
 
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I went in to reading this feeling like Briles was trash. I read the whole thing. Good write up by the way.

I came away kind of unmoved to be honest. His best offenses were at Baylor and 2 G5 schools all of which the head coach was a known offensive guru at the time.

At FSU they were trash, you can throw all the stats and whatever else you want at me, but I watched with my eyes and he was trash.

Arkansas numbers are mediocre at best.

The argument of they improved when he got there and declined when he left doesn’t do much for me. It’s like, my son was getting F’s but got this new tutor and not he’s in the D-C range. The tutor left and now he’s a F again. But ****, I didn’t pay the tutor to be in the D-C range. I expected to get to the Bs or As with how much I am paying.

I just don’t see it. No matter how many compelling arguments everyone makes for this guy, I’m just not feeling it.

That being said, if hired I will absolutely root for the guy to do great things. I obviously want all of our coaches to do good here and root for their success until the day they leave. I hope he proves me wrong, but I’m still skeptical.
Taking roughly the #120 scoring offense to a top 30 offense roughly in two years in the SEC with less talent than most the teams they face isn't compelling enough for you?
 
Taking roughly the #120 scoring offense to a top 30 offense roughly in two years in the SEC with less talent than most the teams they face isn't compelling enough for you?

LOL. Some people are impossible.

And not less talent. THE WORST talent. The worst recruiting classes in the division.

96th in YPP the year before he got there to 27th in his 2nd year. As I’ve said for years, some people deserve what we’ve seen for 20 years. It’s sad. Homeboy probably out there campaigning for Chud LMAO.
 
I went in to reading this feeling like Briles was trash. I read the whole thing. Good write up by the way.

I came away kind of unmoved to be honest. His best offenses were at Baylor and 2 G5 schools all of which the head coach was a known offensive guru at the time.

At FSU they were trash, you can throw all the stats and whatever else you want at me, but I watched with my eyes and he was trash.

Arkansas numbers are mediocre at best.

The argument of they improved when he got there and declined when he left doesn’t do much for me. It’s like, my son was getting F’s but got this new tutor and not he’s in the D-C range. The tutor left and now he’s a F again. But ****, I didn’t pay the tutor to be in the D-C range. I expected to get to the Bs or As with how much I am paying.

I just don’t see it. No matter how many compelling arguments everyone makes for this guy, I’m just not feeling it.

That being said, if hired I will absolutely root for the guy to do great things. I obviously want all of our coaches to do good here and root for their success until the day they leave. I hope he proves me wrong, but I’m still skeptical.
Word vomit.
 
LOL. Some people are impossible.

And not less talent. THE WORST talent. The worst recruiting classes in the division.

96th in YPP the year before he got there to 27th in his 2nd year. As I’ve said for years, some people deserve what we’ve seen for 20 years. It’s sad. Homeboy probably out there campaigning for Chud LMAO.
Yeah pretty crazy .. the Arky head coach .. Pittman .. is highly regarded and even mentioned as a possible Bama replacement for Saban when he retires. Guy knows a bit about football and really doesn't want to lose Briles. #31 overall offense, playing in the SEC, has his QB playing with a 65% completion % as well; #12 red zone offense. I am a Brady fan due to what he did at LSU. But .. if you upgrade UM's OL and defense .. getting more SEC type talent .. with the skill players on the offensive roster .. UM should absolutely be able to dominate the ACC with a Briles offense.
 
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LOL. Some people are impossible.

And not less talent. THE WORST talent. The worst recruiting classes in the division.

96th in YPP the year before he got there to 27th in his 2nd year. As I’ve said for years, some people deserve what we’ve seen for 20 years. It’s sad. Homeboy probably out there campaigning for Chud LMAO.
No, homeboy probably isn’t out here campaigning for anyone. It’s sad because I have a different opinion than you, and the majority of CIS, and your hard thought “campaigning” post didn’t sway my opinion?

FOH, homeboy
 
The fanbase’s level expectations change real real quick on here. We were a dumpster fire with no hope and now Kendall Briles isn’t good enough for us. Mainly because his previous stop was at FSU when they had their worst coach ever and were completely devoid of talent. Just ignore the fact that he still drastically improved the offense according to the numbers. If it’s Briles great if it’s not, it’s not the end of the world but don’t kid yourselves, we can end up with way way way worse than Briles.
 
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The argument of they improved when he got there and declined when he left doesn’t do much for me. It’s like, my son was getting F’s but got this new tutor and not he’s in the D-C range. The tutor left and now he’s a F again. But ****, I didn’t pay the tutor to be in the D-C range. I expected to get to the Bs or As with how much I am paying.
You expected a tutor to transform an F student to a B or an A student?

Some of that depends on the student - in more ways than one.

Apply that to coaches and players.
 
Watched a few Arkansas games. Tons of running and short underneath passes. The type of offense that Jacurri would kill it in. But does it open up a bit, doesn’t seem like an offense that would take full advantage of TVD. My guess is Arkansas QB needed to be protected. If he’s anything like pop there’s def a ton of vertical concepts.
 
Based upon the thread's title I was hoping we'd do a deep dive into if sports management degrees are worth anything.

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Watched a few Arkansas games. Tons of running and short underneath passes. The type of offense that Jacurri would kill it in. But does it open up a bit, doesn’t seem like an offense that would take full advantage of TVD. My guess is Arkansas QB needed to be protected. If he’s anything like pop there’s def a ton of vertical concepts.

Yeah, don't take anything away from last year Arkansas as far as what you'd see here. VASTLY different skill sets at QB.
 
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I was all-in with Briles from the start. May be better than Lashlee due to added diversity to the run game. I like the Air Raid better than the shoot, however, a true 50/50 run/pass offense was needed. It is a necessity to be good at both running & passing the ball when defenses decide they want to take one away. They usually aren't successful any way vs a Briles offense.
 
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I went in to reading this feeling like Briles was trash. I read the whole thing. Good write up by the way.

I came away kind of unmoved to be honest. His best offenses were at Baylor and 2 G5 schools all of which the head coach was a known offensive guru at the time.

At FSU they were trash, you can throw all the stats and whatever else you want at me, but I watched with my eyes and he was trash.

Arkansas numbers are mediocre at best.

The argument of they improved when he got there and declined when he left doesn’t do much for me. It’s like, my son was getting F’s but got this new tutor and not he’s in the D-C range. The tutor left and now he’s a F again. But ****, I didn’t pay the tutor to be in the D-C range. I expected to get to the Bs or As with how much I am paying.

I just don’t see it. No matter how many compelling arguments everyone makes for this guy, I’m just not feeling it.

That being said, if hired I will absolutely root for the guy to do great things. I obviously want all of our coaches to do good here and root for their success until the day they leave. I hope he proves me wrong, but I’m still skeptical.
Eh, if your kid’s a tard, D’s and C’s might be the most any tutor can squeeze out of him.

Why do fans completely disregard team talent when judging a coach? No coach can take a team devoid of talent and make them unstoppable. That’s just not the way things work.
 
You expected a tutor to transform an F student to a B or an A student?

Some of that depends on the student - in more ways than one.

Apply that to coaches and players.

And I watched every game of Arkansas, but the two against Rice and LSU. And trust me, they had only one "A" player on that roster.
 
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