Kam and JW are apparently leaving

[skeeter]

JW does not have good film. His only hope to be drafted high is running sub 4.6.

Has plenty of good tape this year

The problem is there is plenty of bad tape as well.

 

[canemachine]

4.55 would be a good time for him.

He'll be an interesting one to watch because being stuck on being a pure safety initially cost him in my eyes.

 

[BostonCanes47]

Assuming both aren’t playing in the bowl game.

Wonder if they slide Richard back and see what he can do.

 

[skeeter]

Quick q

Yeah man like I said, we never get that. I'm sure it hurts us that we haven't been good on the field to entice players to come back, but it's hard to be good when your juniors all leave if they have a hint of being drafted.


Tyler Van Dyke
Javion Cohen
Don Chaney Jr.
Corey Flagg
Kam Kinchens
James Williams

Mario better do work in the portal, because right now this teams has gotten a lot worse in 4 days since the season ended.

Agree…Not on every single player listed, but definitely took a hit.

 

[skeeter]

Kam has a late round 2 - early round 3 grade (could go higher and probably will because his interview process should go well)

James Williams- 4th/5th round (all fit related with him)

They got their grades this quickly?

 

[skeeter]

Question for

@Cribby, @Peter Ariz , or anyone else with a pulse

Were there/is there NIL "raises" an attractive deal made towards KK, J Will, JHH, and LT to stay at UM for another year?

 

[SouthsideAtl]

Salute go ball in the league ….I like the young boyz it’s gonna be bumps and bruises but we should be use to them

 

[Ya Boi]

Was watching the Ravens game the other night and saw Kyle Hanilton and he kinda reminds me of JW. Hamilton is 6’4” and 220 and the Ravens move him around a lot.

But Williams isn't the pure safety Kyle Hamilton is along with being a surefire tackler. That's the difference

 

[bacane]

Both are true Canes & appreciate the passion. That said, the boom or bust play was frustrating to watch. Blown coverages, bad angles, attempted arm tackles . . . TVD deservedly took heat for costly mistakes, but Kam in particular played a key role in some losses.

 

[CanefaninBuckeyeland]

I can't fault someone for trying to better their life based on the options available to them. I think for JW, the NFL will look at what Kyle Hamilton is doing for the Ravens and probably overvalue JW. If he goes to the right system with solid, player-lead leadership, JW can be a monster in the NFL.

 

[The Sphinx]

Good luck to them both, go be great and represent!

This is all that needs to be said

 

[chris2183l]

That’s what I’ve been saying for Kam. Late second was his ceiling. Third more realistic. I’m intrigued to see how GM’s / scouts view KK’s film.

Jw leaving for a 4th 5th round grade...Miami football

 

[chris2183l]

If Williams knows that is his grade and still bounces, that is interesting.

This stuff always happens at Miami. So many guys that could have been veteran leaders leave for the draft to either go super late/undrafted and then not do anything in the league. With NIL you'd think some of that would stop

 

[chris2183l]

Kam has a late round 2 - early round 3 grade (could go higher and probably will because his interview process should go well)

James Williams- 4th/5th round (all fit related with him)

Why do these Miami guys dip with these mid round grades so often. Isn't he getting decent NIL money?

 

[jamiecane]

JW, would probably make more by staying

 

[nvlahos]

Kam has a late round 2 - early round 3 grade (could go higher and probably will because his interview process should go well)

James Williams- 4th/5th round (all fit related with him)

That’s what I thought. Round 3-5 for both

These are the type of guys that we need to get to come back to the program. Refine their game to make it more NFL ready and boost their draft stock to rounds 1-3 vs. 3-5.

We’ve seen too many guys leave too early and not make it at the next level. Thought Mario would clean some of this up but apparently not

FSU gets their guys to come back and they win, while we still have guys leaving early

 

[NC_Canes_11]

JW does not have good film. His only hope to be drafted high is running sub 4.6.

Incredibly weak safety class. He should take advantage of that and go. Somebody might reach bc he fits what they do.

 

[nvlahos]

Scouts actually think it could be opposite. Have had multiple tell me they believe he might be a high 4.6-low4.7 guy which would hurt him big time

They need to either see him run well enough to put that to rest, or they need him to gain 15-20 pounds.

Exactly so he’s not ready from a physical perspective and has holes in his game

 

[423Hurricane]

But Williams isn't the pure safety Kyle Hamilton is along with being a surefire tackler. That's the difference

It was mostly the similar physical measurements that got me thinking of comparing the 2. No doubt Hamilton is a much more refined player.

 

[JOE'CANE]

Well...PAY em like Clemson and FSU did..

100% hook them up, ur spending money regardless. Atleast Kam n JW are proven.