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Another guy who shrunk at the opening
Homie was listed at 6’3 then comes in at 6’0
These kids think they’re slick
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Another guy who shrunk at the opening
Homie was listed at 6’3 then comes in at 6’0
These kids think they’re slick
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4.74--40, an excellent 4.22 short shuttle and was 6 and 1/2 inch and 190 lbs.
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Not even close. More like 5%.
DJ Ivey only ran in one track meet and that was back in 10th grade with a 51.4 in the 400 meters. At the Nike 2017 he did not run the 40 but posted an excellent short shuttle of 4.2 inside the top 20 and a very good vertical jump of over 35 inches. He measured 6-1 and 171 pounds.
Keontra Smith at this years Nike measured 5-11 and 195 pounds. He posted a 4.55 at 40 yards, a short shuttle of 4.50 and a 35.7 vertical. His rating was an excellent 103.95.
As one poster said lets get Sanguinetti into the Paradise Camp to see him in action, then make decisions.
Keontra Smith at this years Nike measured 5-11 and 195 pounds. He posted a 4.55 at 40 yards, a short shuttle of 4.50 and a 35.7 vertical. His rating was an excellent 103.95.
As one poster said lets get Sanguinetti into the Paradise Camp to see him in action, then make decisions.
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Yeah he came in at 6’0.5 186 pounds, still an explosive athlete
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Which further proves the point that worrying about laser time 40s when a recruit is clearly UM caliber is some shortsighted slow ****.
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Edge played in backwoods s.fla of Immokalee. Sanguinetti is a ft lauderdale kid that has been going to camp like settinngs since he was like 9-10 yrs old..different era...most of these s.fla kids know how to run. I coach 11u ball..all my kids can do all the drills from the combine as thats what we teach them. There's a big difference ina guy running a 4.6 and a guy running a 4.8. Barry Church is a strong safety...Gipson was a cb, he's a 4.5 - at worst 4.6 guy. I dont think Sanguinetti is forever a 4.8 guy...think he is faster than that...but i still dont think he is some athletic wonder..**** his vert shows that.
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I agree with you it's a different era. I still don't believe these HS kids are eating like they should or working out properly minus the Lingard rarity. Sanguinetti could easily be faster than Church and Gipson in 4 years. Gipson couldn't run a 4.5 to save his life. He's the weak link on the Jags defense. His top handheld time was 4.61 at his pro day on UVA's track. That time at the combine would've probably been close to Saguinetti's. I swear you don't read the entire posts before you comment.
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The poor vert might actually be a worse indicator for his athleticism than that 40 time.
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He’s smooth.
I wonder why everyone is so enamored with 4.4 speed CB. Only time that matters is if you’re getting beat. I’ll take a smothering quick hip sub 4.6 guy over a speed demon all day. WR can’t catch if someone is mirroring him. Sango will thrive is off man. You see the b-ball skills for sure with his tape.
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Dee Delaney ran a 4.4 at the combine. He still couldn't cover a 3rd string walk on WR from Wisconsin.
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after claiming he was 6’3
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Transition and closing speed was a real deficiency for Dee. Really disappointing. That being said he could make the roster as a special teamer. Hope he does. Good kid.
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I think safety might be a better position for him. He’s a long shot to make the Jags roster but he’ll get a chance on a practice squad somewhere with his size and speed.
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Ya I'm starting to think there may just be enough bad "news", measurable whatever...for Sang to become less of a priority. Esp because he doesn't look physical enough for safety. Kid is prob a corner here.
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I took the results from every Opening competition last year and compiled them into a database for reference in recruiting rankings. You can read my posts under HurricaneVision and see that I've maintained for years now that legitimate 40 times would shock most fans on how slow HS players' times really are.
For 2018 recruits, there were two players who broke a 4.4 40 yard dash. There were 1,442 players who ran a posted 40-yard dash. This isn't even including the scores of kids who ran and then had it scratched because of how hurt their feelings were over their time.
TWO broke a 4.4. (.001%) Rondale Moore and Anthony Schwartz
Eight players broke a 4.5. (.007%)
Sixty-Five players broke a 4.6. (.05%)
DB's for the 2018 class, there were 207 players who ran the 40-yard dash at that position. The average 40 time of those players was a 4.76. So, while it is absolutely true that HS players are almost universally never really 4.3 kids, it is also true that this time was very poor for Sanguinetti.
For the short shuttle there were 291 players who completed this event as a DB and the average was 4.34. Again, his time was pretty poor considering the results of his peers.
For 2018 recruits, there were two players who broke a 4.4 40 yard dash. There were 1,442 players who ran a posted 40-yard dash. This isn't even including the scores of kids who ran and then had it scratched because of how hurt their feelings were over their time.
TWO broke a 4.4. (.001%) Rondale Moore and Anthony Schwartz
Eight players broke a 4.5. (.007%)
Sixty-Five players broke a 4.6. (.05%)
DB's for the 2018 class, there were 207 players who ran the 40-yard dash at that position. The average 40 time of those players was a 4.76. So, while it is absolutely true that HS players are almost universally never really 4.3 kids, it is also true that this time was very poor for Sanguinetti.
For the short shuttle there were 291 players who completed this event as a DB and the average was 4.34. Again, his time was pretty poor considering the results of his peers.
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I'm glad our coaching staff, whatever their faults, is smart enough not to make their evals based on testing from a single camp in Ohio.
The issue is really that posters want to nitpick and downgrade almost every recruit. Keontra Smith tests well, posters still claim they dont want him.
I'm pretty sure Tyrique Stevenson and Kair Elam are the only DBs half this board wouldn't cry about.
Sanguinetti - had a bad 40
Davis - too short
Smith - not elite
Couch - too skinny
Steele - from Cali
And so on
I mean, if Sanguinetti looked bad on film, and was just not good at football like T McFadden, that would be one thing. But this is a kid that looks incredible on tape, and is a pretty good basketball player too. It's also just funny that people ignore that he was named a standout performer of that camp, and invited to the Opening finals from that camp.
With our needed at DB, this is a kid who'd be a great addition.
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