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Cribby said:
Both fair points.

The run D point is one reason I’m more confident than most weeks. I still see a shootout.

There’s so many easy throws against our d and big windows i don’t see why anyone would try to run. Drag routes stay open as well as most short / intermediate routes.
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Problem for them is you and I throw the hall better than Travis, guy can’t hit anyone in stride and their receivers are all JAGs
 
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Cribby said:
Both fair points.

The run D point is one reason I’m more confident than most weeks. I still see a shootout.

There’s so many easy throws against our d and big windows i don’t see why anyone would try to run. Drag routes stay open as well as most short / intermediate routes.
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Oh, I have no confidence in our defense to shut down anyone but nine games into the season, I'm a lot more confident against a one dimensional rushing team than a one dimensional passing team.
 
JD08 said:
I meant three straight games this season. But I hope both of us need to revise that number upward very soon.
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True… I was hoping we all didn’t forget an fsu win. Those should be counted!
 
DTP said:
Oh, I have no confidence in our defense to shut down anyone but nine games into the season, I'm a lot more confident against a one dimensional rushing team than a one dimensional passing team.
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I think this is my main takeaway as well.

Bryce Young is elite and carved us up.

Chase Brice is terrible and App State didn't have much success

MSU was a weird game, we played pretty well on defense early on but it was one of the worst tackling games in the history of the sport, and they only had 17 points at the end of the 3rd quarter. But they started the game punt, punt, FG, missed FG, TD, punt. 10 points in the first half. Not like they just wiped us off the field offensively, the dam finally broke in the 4th quarter but we gave them the ball twice inside our 25 yard line.

UVA, believe it or not, we are the ONLY team they have played all season to hold them under 500 yards. And they only had 449. (By the way, they are #1 in the COUNTRY in yards per game. What kind of odds could you have gotten on that?!!?)

UNC we got gutted on the ground. Again. Dreadful.

And then Pickett and Leary, both excellent QBs, put up good numbers on us, but Pitt only ran the ball for 68 yards, and NCSU only got 111.

And then GT....Sims is much more Brice and Jordan Travis than he is Pickett or Armstrong or Howell. And we ate his shlt up too.

Pitt and UVA also held well under the season averages in points.

Bottom line to me, these really good passing offenses with elite, accurate QBs have eaten us up. We have zero clue what we're doing in the middle of the field, the backers can't cover anybody, our #2 corner has been TERRIBLE all year, and we have 43 freshmen playing Safety. But Jordan Travis is NOT that. Not even close. If we just decide to not cover people, sure he can make plays with his arm. But he's really inaccurate, he has zero anticipation, his receivers are terrible. I feel so much better about slowing down this offense than I did Pitt. I can't say I'm confident that we'll shut down anybody with what I've seen this year, but I'd MUCH rather face a running QB with good backs instead of Kenny Pickett or Armstrong with a bevy of good receivers.
 
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moshated305 said:
Lol y'all making this kid out to be Mike Vike or Lamar Jackson. Very good athlete but remember just last year he couldn't out run Nesta in the backfield and limped off the field to never return. He will make some plays with his legs no doubt but y'all need to calm down.
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He’s not even better than Simms from Ga Tech.. talent wise that Offensive backfield is average. But those coaches and that system does a great job at getting productivity from its backs…only pathway for FSU to win is if 11 and 4 just wreck our offense..so unless our oline takes a major step we will be fine. I think FSU will put up a fight
 
Tracy724 said:
I never said that. Our poor defense is what I’m nervous about. Believe it or not, they actually have some good players on their team. If our OL can’t protect TVD or give Rooster space to run, it will not be a 52-10 type game. Forgive me for not being confident in our defense. I can admit that our OL has done better as of late. But I can see the other Johnson (the one we should’ve taken) causing havoc.
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Outside of the RB Jashaun Corbin. Who else on their offense would you trade in place of someone on our offense? My argument is they dont have any good players on their offense. One good. Alot of average.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
I think this is my main takeaway as well.

Bryce Young is elite and carved us up.

Chase Brice is terrible and App State didn't have much success

MSU was a weird game, we played pretty well on defense early on but it was one of the worst tackling games in the history of the sport, and they only had 17 points at the end of the 3rd quarter. But they started the game punt, punt, FG, missed FG, TD, punt. 10 points in the first half. Not like they just wiped us off the field offensively, the dam finally broke in the 4th quarter but we gave them the ball twice inside our 25 yard line.

UVA, believe it or not, we are the ONLY team they have played all season to hold them under 500 yards. And they only had 449. (By the way, they are #1 in the COUNTRY in yards per game. What kind of odds could you have gotten on that?!!?)

UNC we got gutten on the ground. Again. Dreadful.

And then Pickett and Leary, both excellent QBs, put up good numbers on us, but Pitt only ran the ball for 68 yards, and NCSU only got 111.

And then GT....Sims is much more Brice and Jordan Travis than he is Pickett or Armstrong or Howell. And we ate his shlt up too.

Pitt and UVA also held well under the season averages in points.

Bottom line to me, these really good passing offenses with elite, accurate QBs have eaten us up. We have zero clue what we're doing in the middle of the field, the backers can't cover anybody, our #2 corner has been TERRIBLE all year, and we have 43 freshmen playing Safety. But Jordan Travis is NOT that. Not even close. If we just decide to not cover people, sure he can make plays with his arm. But he's really inaccurate, he has zero anticipation, his receivers are terrible. I feel so much better about slowing down this offense than I did Pitt. I can't say I'm confident that we'll shut down anybody with what I've seen this year, but I'd MUCH rather face a running QB with good backs instead of Kenny Pickett or Armstrong with a bevy of good receivers.
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Generally agree. I will add that a majority of the 98 yards that Sam Howell rushed for were on scrambles and not designed runs. I would hope that we don't try to play as much man to man against FSU since the only thing their quarterback does well is scramble. All 11 guys should have their eyes in the backfield.
 
DTP said:
Generally agree. I will add that a majority of the 98 yards that Sam Howell rushed for were on scrambles and not designed runs. I would hope that we don't try to play as much man to man against FSU since the only thing their quarterback does well is scramble. All 11 guys should have their eyes in the backfield.
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Yeah but a lot (all?) of what scares you when you play Jordan Travis is that sandlot, backyard football where he scrambles and makes plays, just like Howell did.
 
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No one is arguing that FSU is going to beat us or has a great offense...

The discussion is primarily about whether we blow them out or have a close game.

In all of Miami’s wins against FBS opponents have been by a combined 10 points, we haven’t beaten a non-FCS opponent by more than 4 points all season, even in games where our offense produced well over 400 yards of total offense.

Can we blow out FSU? Of course we can. We will, is the question...
 
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Liberty City El said:
No one is arguing that FSU is going to beat us or has a great offense...

The discussion is primarily about whether we blow them out or have a close game.

In all of Miami’s wins against FBS opponents have been by a combined 10 points, we haven’t beaten a non-FCS opponent by my more than 4 points all season, even in games where our offense produced well over 400 yards of total offense.

Can we blow out FSU? Of course we can. We will, is the question...
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Well, there was a guy in this thread who said he's as athletic as Lamar Jackson, so there might be more stans than you'd think.

But I agree with you. We had a legit A+ offensive performance last week and still had to sweat the end of the game. Whether it's missed FGs, kickoffs returned for TDs, Safeties, batted balls being intercepted, dropped passes, balls going through DBs hands and caught for TDs, fumbles, penalties....we always seem to make a close game out of it, no matter how the game actually goes. It's insane. That game should have been a 17 point win last week, but here we are, biting nails with 2 minutes to go.

We're really due to just beat the dog**** out of someone, aren't we?
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
Well, there was a guy in this thread who said he's as athletic as Lamar Jackson, so there might be more stans than you'd think.

But I agree with you. We had a legit A+ offensive performance last week and still had to sweat the end of the game. Whether it's missed FGs, kickoffs returned for TDs, Safeties, batted balls being intercepted, dropped passes, balls going through DBs hands and caught for TDs, fumbles, penalties....we always seem to make a close game out of it, no matter how the game actually goes. It's insane. That game should have been a 17 point win last week, but here we are, biting nails with 2 minutes to go.

We're really due to just beat the dog**** out of someone, aren't we?
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Yes...

Could be FSU, could be Duke, might be both...

Wouldn’t bet a penny on it, that’s this season in a nutshell lol.
 
I try to be as objective as possible. Some fans don’t like objectivity, and that’s fine.

These r the facts: we are on a 3 game win streak by a grand total of 8 points. Prior to that, we were on a two game losing streak by a total of 5 points. All ACC opponents.

The point? We were a play or two away from being on a 5 game win streak & a play or two away from being a 5 game losing streak. We’re an average team that’s struggling w/ average teams. On paper, beating a 7-2 Pitt team (#25) & a 7-2 NCSt team (#21) looks absolutely fantastic, but y r they considered average, despite their record & top 25 rankings? B/c 7 of Pitt’s wins came against teams w/ a combined record 25-38, while NCSt’s 7 wins came against teams w/ a combined 26-37 meaning, they’ve played bad teams, and their 7 wins is as legit as Tommy “Machine” Gunn being heavyweight champion.

We’re going against a below avg. FSU team, which has improved from last yr on def (Total D in 2020: 107th vs 2021: 69th-better than us), but make no mistake bout it, their O has taken a step back: (Total O in 2020: 62nd vs 2021: 85th). The only skew to this is, FSU can run the ball a bit….40th in the nation. The silver lining is our rush defense has improved, we’re now 47th.

We “should” beat them handily in this game. FSU is pretty much one dimensional, but we’ve shown a propensity all yr to make blowout games on paper, one possession games where the other team has the ball to win (see App St & GT). The GT game showed we can’t expect a blowout. We played a one dimensional team, w/ a far porous defense than FSU, and it took a glance knee on the ground & hella penalties to beat them by 3.

I expect a W, but I’m not sure what we saw last season will be the same results. We may get another nail biter.
 
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I get that the Georgia Tech final score was close but you’re talking about a game that Miami turned the ball over 5 times. 3 fumbles and twice on downs. If FSU is +4 in the turnover department against Miami, it will be another close game. If Miami doesn’t fumble on three straight possessions, it could get ugly.
 
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