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Bpayne32 said:
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My point is there aren’t number 1 wide receivers just hopping in the portal
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My point is there was a number 1 Running Back who just hopped in the portal. Just last year. Why can't there be a #1 WR?

I guess it depends on what you consider "#1", which is a discussion in and of itself around here. Is a lock first-round WR jumping in the portal? I guess not? But Cam Ward was a 5th round pick last year, he jumped in the portal, now he's going #1 overall. The point being, the spring window will absolutely have receivers entering the portal. You can't say right now that none will be a "#1" because:

A) We have no idea who they are
B) We have no idea who they will be if/when they get here. In this offense, with this surrounding cast.
 
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TouchMoney26 said:
DK why you hate on Baby Jesus besides you liking older men
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Annnnnd the very stupid friend swallows the bait....hook, line, and sinker.

You should also brush up on obvious Biblical references, heathen.


Idiot GIF
 
Bpayne32 said:
Can you name a number 1 wr that would even be a realistic possibility
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We need to transition away from this mentality. In 2025, it is less about who is a "realistic possibility" to enter the portal, and more about who the staff can entice to enter the portal (through intermediaries, within the rules, not via tampering, yada-yada-yada, etc...). If UM football is now a strong recruiting staff with a top 8-10 NIL program (which most insiders seem to suggest is the case) and participating in upcoming revenue sharing, the only questions should be: do we need a WR1, and, if we do, which number 1 WR are we going to take?

Otherwise, we either aren't quite at the level we think we are as a program and/or staff, or we're ******** it up somewhere along the line (evaluation, recruiting, development, and/or roster management).
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
My point is there was a number 1 Running Back who just hopped in the portal. Just last year. Why can't there be a #1 WR?

I guess it depends on what you consider "#1", which is a discussion in and of itself around here. Is a lock first-round WR jumping in the portal? I guess not? But Cam Ward was a 5th round pick last year, he jumped in the portal, now he's going #1 overall. The point being, the spring window will absolutely have receivers entering the portal. You can't say right now that none will be a "#1" because:

A) We have no idea who they are
B) We have no idea who they will be if/when they get here. In this offense, with this surrounding cast.
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Some of our fans are also stuck on the idea that Jeremiah Smith is what a #1 looks like and he might transfer here

He’s obviously a #1 but there’s a middle ground between him and what we have on the roster
 
JHallCanes said:
Some of our fans are also stuck on the idea that Jeremiah Smith is what a #1 looks like and he might transfer here

He’s obviously a #1 but there’s a middle ground between him and what we have on the roster
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Jeremiah Smith is what an alien mixed with Frankenstein mixed with Julio Jones looks like. He's an outlier of outliers. He's not a #1, because he's whatever the number is that comes before 1 that isn't invented yet. He is 1 of 1.

Jojo Trader can be not even close to as good to Jeremiah Smith and still an All-ACC player and first-round pick. That's how good JJ is. You're 100% correct.
 
JHallCanes said:
Some of our fans are also stuck on the idea that Jeremiah Smith is what a #1 looks like and he might transfer here

He’s obviously a #1 but there’s a middle ground between him and what we have on the roster
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There are some people on CIS who will hang on to the JS transferring to Miami MYTH all the way up until he retires from the NFL. It’s a mental sickness at this point.
 
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Bpayne32 said:
Can you name a number 1 wr that would even be a realistic possibility
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Bpayne32 said:
Can you name a number 1 wr that would even be a realistic possibility
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For clarification, a #1 WR doesn’t necessarily mean they are a number 1 WR on their current team. It just means they would step onto Greentree as the #1 WR. For example, had Horton not left to be the #2 WR at “Bama, he would be the #1 WR at Miami. That takes away pressure from Trader having to go from seldom used backup to star WR in just one year.

Fans can believe all of the orange and green colored reports they want. But, that sort of progression at Miami is uncommon, especially the last 20 years. I’m perfectly fine with JoJo as our #2 WR with a strong slot receiver to complement him. But, we need somebody to take the pressure off and that somebody is not currently on the roster. CJ Daniels is still a question mark.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
My point is there was a number 1 Running Back who just hopped in the portal. Just last year. Why can't there be a #1 WR?

I guess it depends on what you consider "#1", which is a discussion in and of itself around here. Is a lock first-round WR jumping in the portal? I guess not? But Cam Ward was a 5th round pick last year, he jumped in the portal, now he's going #1 overall. The point being, the spring window will absolutely have receivers entering the portal. You can't say right now that none will be a "#1" because:

A) We have no idea who they are
B) We have no idea who they will be if/when they get here. In this offense, with this surrounding cast.
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This is why words matter, though. People type to matter of fact and it causes confusion.

Potentially, hopefully, developmental.... are words that should be used when discussing a portal addition. People type like they have a finished product in mind already and he's proven it on the field and expressed his desire to transfer.

That's not the case.
 
htownkidd said:
There are some people on CIS who will hang on to the JS transferring to Miami MYTH all the way up until he retires from the NFL. It’s a mental sickness at this point.
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Headline in 2042:

“NFLs Beijing Dragons cut Jeremiah Smith all time NFL leading receiver”

CiS: “with the new transfer portal rules from 2041 any chance he comes back here to finish his career??”
 
Canezum5 said:
This is why words matter, though. People type to matter of fact and it causes confusion.

Potentially, hopefully, developmental.... are words that should be used when discussing a portal addition. People type like they have a finished product in mind already and he's proven it on the field and expressed his desire to transfer.

That's not the case.
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How do you know what any given person has expressed?

This is the other ridiculous game that certain posters like to play. As if "it's not real" until it has been reported on 247 or on3.

Plenty of guys have expressed a desire to transfer. Sometimes they don't follow-through (Zay Flowers). Most of the time, they do.

How do you know which players have spoken with Miami coaches about a desire to transfer? As well as their reasons.

I've said it before, this April is the last big and definite chance to cash in before the PROPOSED House settlement goes into effect and begins to require more structure. Therefore, if there are willing buyers and sellers, some lucky guy(s) will get millions in a few months without the NCAA scrutinizing the deal(s).

I'd expect a few guys to transfer this spring for reasons OTHER THAN "playing time" or "got beat out" or "don't like the coach".
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
My point is there was a number 1 Running Back who just hopped in the portal. Just last year. Why can't there be a #1 WR?

I guess it depends on what you consider "#1", which is a discussion in and of itself around here. Is a lock first-round WR jumping in the portal? I guess not? But Cam Ward was a 5th round pick last year, he jumped in the portal, now he's going #1 overall. The point being, the spring window will absolutely have receivers entering the portal. You can't say right now that none will be a "#1" because:

A) We have no idea who they are
B) We have no idea who they will be if/when they get here. In this offense, with this surrounding cast.
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Getting harder and harder every year to get 1s at every position out the portal time to develop the young guys at receiver rather than bringing in a jag with experience
 
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No_Fly_Zone said:
We need to transition away from this mentality. In 2025, it is less about who is a "realistic possibility" to enter the portal, and more about who the staff can entice to enter the portal (through intermediaries, within the rules, not via tampering, yada-yada-yada, etc...). If UM football is now a strong recruiting staff with a top 8-10 NIL program (which most insiders seem to suggest is the case) and participating in upcoming revenue sharing, the only questions should be: do we need a WR1, and, if we do, which number 1 WR are we going to take?

Otherwise, we either aren't quite at the level we think we are as a program and/or staff, or we're ******** it up somewhere along the line (evaluation, recruiting, development, and/or roster management).
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Makes zero sense to poach a guy to take away reps from jojo and other talented young guys just to bring in a jag at the position. Which is what the majority of guys entering in the spring window are. Look how long it took to click for Sam brown last season with no spring. Play the guys we have we aren’t getting anyone more talented than the 24 class guys in the spring window .
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
My point is there was a number 1 Running Back who just hopped in the portal. Just last year. Why can't there be a #1 WR?

I guess it depends on what you consider "#1", which is a discussion in and of itself around here. Is a lock first-round WR jumping in the portal? I guess not? But Cam Ward was a 5th round pick last year, he jumped in the portal, now he's going #1 overall. The point being, the spring window will absolutely have receivers entering the portal. You can't say right now that none will be a "#1" because:

A) We have no idea who they are
B) We have no idea who they will be if/when they get here. In this offense, with this surrounding cast.
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It's possible I just don't think it's as sure a thing to be available as a lot of people expect. Also, I don't think our room is as bad as most people think.
 
Bpayne32 said:
Makes zero sense to poach a guy to take away reps from jojo and other talented young guys just to bring in a jag at the position. Which is what the majority of guys entering in the spring window are. Look how long it took to click for Sam brown last season with no spring. Play the guys we have we aren’t getting anyone more talented than the 24 class guys in the spring window .
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He specifically mentioned snatching someone's #1, not jags, which I agree with.

However I appreciate the sentiment with your post. I agree we've recruited well & need to actually develope & give them the opportunity to do so. If we had Emory starting or brought in a guy like Mendoza then I'd say just roll with what we've got because the offensive ceiling is probably limited from jump.

Bringing in Beck who has shown he needs A1 talent to be the best version of himself but also shown that he can compete at the highest level means you can't afford to risk his 1 season on an entire room of inexperienced guys. To put those kind of expectations on freshman is probably not putting them in the best position as well because some take longer than others to be their best self.
 
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