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Why has it become ****/en vogue to reach for bad news?

Because some people in here have gone "all in" on the idea that Golden is a moron and a failure. So in order to support that thesis, they are going to pounce on anything negative to hammer away at their point.

over and over and over and over and over and over……..

Its the offseason what else is there to talk about on a football board? Our last game was a complete clusterf*ck......If we won our last game or even made it a game it would not be like this. What positives do you wanna talk about sir? The stats that Al talked about on Joe Rose how were trending up? Well those stats were brokem down by VIsh and many other posters... You only remember your last game thats the way of the world my friend

Now we in crootin season..crootin aint for the weak.. This has been the best time of year for me the last 8 years are so since we been sucking. Unlike previous years bleak visions have come to fruition and it dont look like well be pulling off a marve, or COley, or TRacy this year it is what it is
 
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Why has it become ****/en vogue to reach for bad news?

Because some people in here have gone "all in" on the idea that Golden is a moron and a failure. So in order to support that thesis, they are going to pounce on anything negative to hammer away at their point.

over and over and over and over and over and over……..

Its the offseason what else is there to talk about on a football board? Our last game was a complete clusterf*ck......If we won our last game or even made it a game it would not be like this. What positives do you wanna talk about sir? The stats that Al talked about on Joe Rose how were trending up? Well those stats were brokem down by VIsh and many other posters... You only remember your last game thats the way of the world my friend

i've been a supporter of Golden since jump street, but that interview with Joe Rose was hard to swallow. I'm a true believer that its Jim's and Joe's not x's and O's, but the lack of accountability in that interview and him pumping out numbers garbage numbers to protect the truth about our defense left me pretty disappointed in him.
 
Yeah, boys. It's a real reach to post info from a Canes beat(off) writer. Clearly an attempt to impugn your fat incompetent hero.

so before the Penn State situation you were in support of Golden as our head coach and heralded him as a great recruiter, but you were rightfully very adamant about D'onfrio and that not firing him would lead to Golden's demise. But now, he sucks on all counts?

You got the wrong guy, bub.
 
Why has it become ****/en vogue to reach for bad news?

Because some people in here have gone "all in" on the idea that Golden is a moron and a failure. So in order to support that thesis, they are going to pounce on anything negative to hammer away at their point.

over and over and over and over and over and over……..

Its the offseason what else is there to talk about on a football board? Our last game was a complete clusterf*ck......If we won our last game or even made it a game it would not be like this. What positives do you wanna talk about sir? The stats that Al talked about on Joe Rose how were trending up? Well those stats were brokem down by VIsh and many other posters... You only remember your last game thats the way of the world my friend

Now we in crootin season..crootin aint for the weak.. This has been the best time of year for me the last 8 years are so since we been sucking. Unlike previous years bleak visions have come to fruition and it dont look like well be pulling off a marve, or COley, or TRacy this year it is what it is

Vern arent you a teacher in So FLa? You know the game with recruiting in So Fla, you have even mentioned it numerous times here, that we cant expect to get some of these elite talents unless we are willing to pony up some $$$. So knowing that UM is on NCAA probation, and doesnt have those resources to compete against the big dogs $$$ wish for some of these kids, would you say the staff is doing a poor job on the recrutiing front? Considering that they cant do what you yourself have said needs to be done with some of these kids?
 
Why has it become ****/en vogue to reach for bad news?

Because some people in here have gone "all in" on the idea that Golden is a moron and a failure. So in order to support that thesis, they are going to pounce on anything negative to hammer away at their point.

over and over and over and over and over and over……..

Its the offseason what else is there to talk about on a football board? Our last game was a complete clusterf*ck......If we won our last game or even made it a game it would not be like this. What positives do you wanna talk about sir? The stats that Al talked about on Joe Rose how were trending up? Well those stats were brokem down by VIsh and many other posters... You only remember your last game thats the way of the world my friend

Now we in crootin season..crootin aint for the weak.. This has been the best time of year for me the last 8 years are so since we been sucking. Unlike previous years bleak visions have come to fruition and it dont look like well be pulling off a marve, or COley, or TRacy this year it is what it is

Vern arent you a teacher in So FLa? You know the game with recruiting in So Fla, you have even mentioned it numerous times here, that we cant expect to get some of these elite talents unless we are willing to pony up some $$$. So knowing that UM is on NCAA probation, and doesnt have those resources to compete against the big dogs $$$ wish for some of these kids, would you say the staff is doing a poor job on the recrutiing front? Considering that they cant do what you yourself have said needs to be done with some of these kids?


Yea Im an AP now.... at a high school in Miami...Some getting paid but its more than that...**** some recruits were on Floridas payroll and they still left. Eveyrbody aint getting paid though. I'm hearing all kinds of stories these days.. We will never be a top 5 recruiting college. NEVER!!! One hope is to get kids in that cant get in to other schools, we can do it were a private school..Maybe we can offer some kind of summer enrichment program..Old coaches tell me we use to get borderline kids under Dee we re not doing it under Shalala for whatever reason. A lot of the members on our championship teams would not be at Miami these days.. Our other hope is to start winning again 11-2 seasons..because these kids do not know anything about Miami glory years. When we beat FLorida all the kids were loving Miami... Kids dont like the dolphins and dont like Hurricanes because all they know is losing. I see coaches coming from everywhere these days who never recruited down here im told...The floodgates are open.

Some of it is just bad recruiting.... Charles Gaines, Freeman, ..some coaches just didnt like dealing with their handlers yes Shannon. you gonna have to deal with some shady characters. Let me tell you this story Robenson Therezie wanted to be a cane. Miami recruited him late a miami coach came to the school and he was told that he wasnt in school even though he was right in class. Yall aint ready for crootin. WE still have the talent to beat DUke and Va TEch though. Winning will help cure some but it dont look like thats happening anytime soon..Ill still go to the games though... and talk **** with you guys to get me through the tough times
 
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Because some people in here have gone "all in" on the idea that Golden is a moron and a failure. So in order to support that thesis, they are going to pounce on anything negative to hammer away at their point.

over and over and over and over and over and over……..

Its the offseason what else is there to talk about on a football board? Our last game was a complete clusterf*ck......If we won our last game or even made it a game it would not be like this. What positives do you wanna talk about sir? The stats that Al talked about on Joe Rose how were trending up? Well those stats were brokem down by VIsh and many other posters... You only remember your last game thats the way of the world my friend

Now we in crootin season..crootin aint for the weak.. This has been the best time of year for me the last 8 years are so since we been sucking. Unlike previous years bleak visions have come to fruition and it dont look like well be pulling off a marve, or COley, or TRacy this year it is what it is

Vern arent you a teacher in So FLa? You know the game with recruiting in So Fla, you have even mentioned it numerous times here, that we cant expect to get some of these elite talents unless we are willing to pony up some $$$. So knowing that UM is on NCAA probation, and doesnt have those resources to compete against the big dogs $$$ wish for some of these kids, would you say the staff is doing a poor job on the recrutiing front? Considering that they cant do what you yourself have said needs to be done with some of these kids?


Yea Im an AP now.... at a high school in Miami...Some getting paid but its more than that...**** some recruits were on Floridas payroll and they still left. Eveyrbody aint getting paid though. I'm hearing all kinds of stories these days.. We will never be a top 5 recruiting college. NEVER!!! One hope is to get kids in that cant get in to other schools, we can do it were a private school..Maybe we can offer some kind of summer enrichment program..Old coaches tell me we use to get borderline kids under Dee we re not doing it under Shalala for whatever reason. A lot of the members on our championship teams would not be at Miami these days.. Our other hope is to start winning again 11-2 seasons..because these kids do not know anything about Miami glory years. Kids dont like the dolphins and dont like Hurricanes because all they know is losing. I see coaches coming from everywhere these days who never recruited down here im told...The floodgates are open.

Some of it is just bad recruiting.... Charles Gaines, Freeman, ..some coaches just didnt like dealing with their handlers yes Shannon. you gonna have to deal with some shady characters. Let me tell you this story Robenson Therezie wanted to be a cane. Miami recruited him late a miami coach came to the school and he was told that he wasnt in school even though he was right in class. Yall aint ready for crootin. WE still have the talent to beat DUke and Va TEch though. Winning will help cure some but it dont look like thats happening anytime soon..Ill still go to the games though... and talk **** with you guys to get me through the tough times

Be careful. Some posters around here frown upon reality.

I've been saying this. This season was set up perfectly and we overwhelmingly underachieved. It's concerning. Plus, this recruiting class seems to be closing with a whimper.
 
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over and over and over and over and over and over……..

Its the offseason what else is there to talk about on a football board? Our last game was a complete clusterf*ck......If we won our last game or even made it a game it would not be like this. What positives do you wanna talk about sir? The stats that Al talked about on Joe Rose how were trending up? Well those stats were brokem down by VIsh and many other posters... You only remember your last game thats the way of the world my friend

Now we in crootin season..crootin aint for the weak.. This has been the best time of year for me the last 8 years are so since we been sucking. Unlike previous years bleak visions have come to fruition and it dont look like well be pulling off a marve, or COley, or TRacy this year it is what it is

Vern arent you a teacher in So FLa? You know the game with recruiting in So Fla, you have even mentioned it numerous times here, that we cant expect to get some of these elite talents unless we are willing to pony up some $$$. So knowing that UM is on NCAA probation, and doesnt have those resources to compete against the big dogs $$$ wish for some of these kids, would you say the staff is doing a poor job on the recrutiing front? Considering that they cant do what you yourself have said needs to be done with some of these kids?


Yea Im an AP now.... at a high school in Miami...Some getting paid but its more than that...**** some recruits were on Floridas payroll and they still left. Eveyrbody aint getting paid though. I'm hearing all kinds of stories these days.. We will never be a top 5 recruiting college. NEVER!!! One hope is to get kids in that cant get in to other schools, we can do it were a private school..Maybe we can offer some kind of summer enrichment program..Old coaches tell me we use to get borderline kids under Dee we re not doing it under Shalala for whatever reason. A lot of the members on our championship teams would not be at Miami these days.. Our other hope is to start winning again 11-2 seasons..because these kids do not know anything about Miami glory years. Kids dont like the dolphins and dont like Hurricanes because all they know is losing. I see coaches coming from everywhere these days who never recruited down here im told...The floodgates are open.

Some of it is just bad recruiting.... Charles Gaines, Freeman, ..some coaches just didnt like dealing with their handlers yes Shannon. you gonna have to deal with some shady characters. Let me tell you this story Robenson Therezie wanted to be a cane. Miami recruited him late a miami coach came to the school and he was told that he wasnt in school even though he was right in class. Yall aint ready for crootin. WE still have the talent to beat DUke and Va TEch though. Winning will help cure some but it dont look like thats happening anytime soon..Ill still go to the games though... and talk **** with you guys to get me through the tough times

Be careful. Some posters around here frown upon reality.

I've been saying this. This season was set up perfectly and we overwhelmingly underachieved. It's concerning. Plus, this recruiting class seems to be closing with a whimper.

You took that whole post totally different than I did.

I agree we limped into the finish and it really left a bad taste as to what direction we are heading in.

But what I took from Vern's post, is basically what I have been trying to tell this board all year, and for years before that. Recruiting in South FLorida is a DIRTY business. People think that because UM is the home team, these kids are just lining up to play at Miami. Its not like it was a few decades ago. Most of the top players now have handlers, all sorts of shenanighans going on, its CUT THROAT. That is not to say we cant get some ballers, but all these people that were thinking we were just going to scoop up Cook, Sony, and every top player in So Fla we wanted were DREAMING. Yes, winning will help SOME, but its not going to magically help us grab every kid we want out of So Fla. UM never has, and the way recruiting has spun out of control, its only getting harder for a small, private University, with limited $$$, and already on NCAA probation, to compete with the insane $$$ and things that the big programs will do.
 
Its the offseason what else is there to talk about on a football board? Our last game was a complete clusterf*ck......If we won our last game or even made it a game it would not be like this. What positives do you wanna talk about sir? The stats that Al talked about on Joe Rose how were trending up? Well those stats were brokem down by VIsh and many other posters... You only remember your last game thats the way of the world my friend

Now we in crootin season..crootin aint for the weak.. This has been the best time of year for me the last 8 years are so since we been sucking. Unlike previous years bleak visions have come to fruition and it dont look like well be pulling off a marve, or COley, or TRacy this year it is what it is

Vern arent you a teacher in So FLa? You know the game with recruiting in So Fla, you have even mentioned it numerous times here, that we cant expect to get some of these elite talents unless we are willing to pony up some $$$. So knowing that UM is on NCAA probation, and doesnt have those resources to compete against the big dogs $$$ wish for some of these kids, would you say the staff is doing a poor job on the recrutiing front? Considering that they cant do what you yourself have said needs to be done with some of these kids?


Yea Im an AP now.... at a high school in Miami...Some getting paid but its more than that...**** some recruits were on Floridas payroll and they still left. Eveyrbody aint getting paid though. I'm hearing all kinds of stories these days.. We will never be a top 5 recruiting college. NEVER!!! One hope is to get kids in that cant get in to other schools, we can do it were a private school..Maybe we can offer some kind of summer enrichment program..Old coaches tell me we use to get borderline kids under Dee we re not doing it under Shalala for whatever reason. A lot of the members on our championship teams would not be at Miami these days.. Our other hope is to start winning again 11-2 seasons..because these kids do not know anything about Miami glory years. Kids dont like the dolphins and dont like Hurricanes because all they know is losing. I see coaches coming from everywhere these days who never recruited down here im told...The floodgates are open.

Some of it is just bad recruiting.... Charles Gaines, Freeman, ..some coaches just didnt like dealing with their handlers yes Shannon. you gonna have to deal with some shady characters. Let me tell you this story Robenson Therezie wanted to be a cane. Miami recruited him late a miami coach came to the school and he was told that he wasnt in school even though he was right in class. Yall aint ready for crootin. WE still have the talent to beat DUke and Va TEch though. Winning will help cure some but it dont look like thats happening anytime soon..Ill still go to the games though... and talk **** with you guys to get me through the tough times

Be careful. Some posters around here frown upon reality.

I've been saying this. This season was set up perfectly and we overwhelmingly underachieved. It's concerning. Plus, this recruiting class seems to be closing with a whimper.

You took that whole post totally different than I did.

I agree we limped into the finish and it really left a bad taste as to what direction we are heading in.

But what I took from Vern's post, is basically what I have been trying to tell this board all year, and for years before that. Recruiting in South FLorida is a DIRTY business. People think that because UM is the home team, these kids are just lining up to play at Miami. Its not like it was a few decades ago. Most of the top players now have handlers, all sorts of shenanighans going on, its CUT THROAT. That is not to say we cant get some ballers, but all these people that were thinking we were just going to scoop up Cook, Sony, and every top player in So Fla we wanted were DREAMING. Yes, winning will help SOME, but its not going to magically help us grab every kid we want out of So Fla. UM never has, and the way recruiting has spun out of control, its only getting harder for a small, private University, with limited $$$, and already on NCAA probation, to compete with the insane $$$ and things that the big programs will do.

This is partially true cane4life but there are still a lot of big time 4 and 5 star players that are not getting paid. We cant use this as an excuse. We gotta real these specific guys in. For example dont think losing Sony Alex and cook wouldve been that bad if we wouldve gotten Kevin Grooms but then again he did get kicked off team after an arrest sooo who the **** knows..
 
Its the offseason what else is there to talk about on a football board? Our last game was a complete clusterf*ck......If we won our last game or even made it a game it would not be like this. What positives do you wanna talk about sir? The stats that Al talked about on Joe Rose how were trending up? Well those stats were brokem down by VIsh and many other posters... You only remember your last game thats the way of the world my friend

Now we in crootin season..crootin aint for the weak.. This has been the best time of year for me the last 8 years are so since we been sucking. Unlike previous years bleak visions have come to fruition and it dont look like well be pulling off a marve, or COley, or TRacy this year it is what it is

Vern arent you a teacher in So FLa? You know the game with recruiting in So Fla, you have even mentioned it numerous times here, that we cant expect to get some of these elite talents unless we are willing to pony up some $$$. So knowing that UM is on NCAA probation, and doesnt have those resources to compete against the big dogs $$$ wish for some of these kids, would you say the staff is doing a poor job on the recrutiing front? Considering that they cant do what you yourself have said needs to be done with some of these kids?


Yea Im an AP now.... at a high school in Miami...Some getting paid but its more than that...**** some recruits were on Floridas payroll and they still left. Eveyrbody aint getting paid though. I'm hearing all kinds of stories these days.. We will never be a top 5 recruiting college. NEVER!!! One hope is to get kids in that cant get in to other schools, we can do it were a private school..Maybe we can offer some kind of summer enrichment program..Old coaches tell me we use to get borderline kids under Dee we re not doing it under Shalala for whatever reason. A lot of the members on our championship teams would not be at Miami these days.. Our other hope is to start winning again 11-2 seasons..because these kids do not know anything about Miami glory years. Kids dont like the dolphins and dont like Hurricanes because all they know is losing. I see coaches coming from everywhere these days who never recruited down here im told...The floodgates are open.

Some of it is just bad recruiting.... Charles Gaines, Freeman, ..some coaches just didnt like dealing with their handlers yes Shannon. you gonna have to deal with some shady characters. Let me tell you this story Robenson Therezie wanted to be a cane. Miami recruited him late a miami coach came to the school and he was told that he wasnt in school even though he was right in class. Yall aint ready for crootin. WE still have the talent to beat DUke and Va TEch though. Winning will help cure some but it dont look like thats happening anytime soon..Ill still go to the games though... and talk **** with you guys to get me through the tough times

Be careful. Some posters around here frown upon reality.

I've been saying this. This season was set up perfectly and we overwhelmingly underachieved. It's concerning. Plus, this recruiting class seems to be closing with a whimper.

You took that whole post totally different than I did.

I agree we limped into the finish and it really left a bad taste as to what direction we are heading in.

But what I took from Vern's post, is basically what I have been trying to tell this board all year, and for years before that. Recruiting in South FLorida is a DIRTY business. People think that because UM is the home team, these kids are just lining up to play at Miami. Its not like it was a few decades ago. Most of the top players now have handlers, all sorts of shenanighans going on, its CUT THROAT. That is not to say we cant get some ballers, but all these people that were thinking we were just going to scoop up Cook, Sony, and every top player in So Fla we wanted were DREAMING. Yes, winning will help SOME, but its not going to magically help us grab every kid we want out of So Fla. UM never has, and the way recruiting has spun out of control, its only getting harder for a small, private University, with limited $$$, and already on NCAA probation, to compete with the insane $$$ and things that the big programs will do.

I don't deny those things are prevalent but UM itself has made it much more difficult for these kids to come and play here. The administration has methodically changed the culture of the athletic department. Couple that with an underwhelming coaching staff and an already tough situation becomes much much worse. It's not just about a win/lose record. Most of these kids ain't buying what the staff is selling.
 
Vern arent you a teacher in So FLa? You know the game with recruiting in So Fla, you have even mentioned it numerous times here, that we cant expect to get some of these elite talents unless we are willing to pony up some $$$. So knowing that UM is on NCAA probation, and doesnt have those resources to compete against the big dogs $$$ wish for some of these kids, would you say the staff is doing a poor job on the recrutiing front? Considering that they cant do what you yourself have said needs to be done with some of these kids?


Yea Im an AP now.... at a high school in Miami...Some getting paid but its more than that...**** some recruits were on Floridas payroll and they still left. Eveyrbody aint getting paid though. I'm hearing all kinds of stories these days.. We will never be a top 5 recruiting college. NEVER!!! One hope is to get kids in that cant get in to other schools, we can do it were a private school..Maybe we can offer some kind of summer enrichment program..Old coaches tell me we use to get borderline kids under Dee we re not doing it under Shalala for whatever reason. A lot of the members on our championship teams would not be at Miami these days.. Our other hope is to start winning again 11-2 seasons..because these kids do not know anything about Miami glory years. Kids dont like the dolphins and dont like Hurricanes because all they know is losing. I see coaches coming from everywhere these days who never recruited down here im told...The floodgates are open.

Some of it is just bad recruiting.... Charles Gaines, Freeman, ..some coaches just didnt like dealing with their handlers yes Shannon. you gonna have to deal with some shady characters. Let me tell you this story Robenson Therezie wanted to be a cane. Miami recruited him late a miami coach came to the school and he was told that he wasnt in school even though he was right in class. Yall aint ready for crootin. WE still have the talent to beat DUke and Va TEch though. Winning will help cure some but it dont look like thats happening anytime soon..Ill still go to the games though... and talk **** with you guys to get me through the tough times

Be careful. Some posters around here frown upon reality.

I've been saying this. This season was set up perfectly and we overwhelmingly underachieved. It's concerning. Plus, this recruiting class seems to be closing with a whimper.

You took that whole post totally different than I did.

I agree we limped into the finish and it really left a bad taste as to what direction we are heading in.

But what I took from Vern's post, is basically what I have been trying to tell this board all year, and for years before that. Recruiting in South FLorida is a DIRTY business. People think that because UM is the home team, these kids are just lining up to play at Miami. Its not like it was a few decades ago. Most of the top players now have handlers, all sorts of shenanighans going on, its CUT THROAT. That is not to say we cant get some ballers, but all these people that were thinking we were just going to scoop up Cook, Sony, and every top player in So Fla we wanted were DREAMING. Yes, winning will help SOME, but its not going to magically help us grab every kid we want out of So Fla. UM never has, and the way recruiting has spun out of control, its only getting harder for a small, private University, with limited $$$, and already on NCAA probation, to compete with the insane $$$ and things that the big programs will do.

This is partially true cane4life but there are still a lot of big time 4 and 5 star players that are not getting paid. We cant use this as an excuse. We gotta real these specific guys in. For example dont think losing Sony Alex and cook wouldve been that bad if we wouldve gotten Kevin Grooms but then again he did get kicked off team after an arrest sooo who the **** knows..

I agree not every kid is getting paid, but when you add up the ones that are getting paid, with the ones who want to leave town for whatever reason, the ones who dont really think UM is all that great anymore, the tougher admission standards, and yes the mediocre record for the last 10 plus years, it makes it impossible for us to get EVERY top kid in So Fla we want, **** even most. I do think winning more will help some, but people are deluding themselves if they think we are going to lock up every top So Fla kid we want. Fact is we didnt even do that when we were at our peak.
 
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you guys fail to realize that boosters aren't the only sources of money to recruits.

ever wondered how drew rosenhaus scoops up basically everyone that played at Miami?
 
you guys fail to realize that boosters aren't the only sources of money to recruits.

ever wondered how drew rosenhaus scoops up basically everyone that played at Miami?

because he went to um.....lives in miami.....knows about the kids when they are freshman...and is very visible locally...been on channel 7 every sunday n the sports show since i was a kid.

plus dude is cheap.

Drew 'll shoot u a lil loner car or something when u sign..but he aint doing what them sec/big 10 boosters are doing.
**** them fsu kids from down here are riding around in camaros and challenger's etc. kids from the hood.
 
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