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Joe Brady Interested in OC Job

I can't believe all of you questioning Brady's impact on that LSU team. Did you even know who Steve Esminger was before Brady got there--what about in 2020? Brady was brought to LSU for one reason, to modernize their archaic offense. LSU had been stuck in the dark ages of offense forever, and it held their program back. Brady fixed that.

In 2018 LSU was:

69th (nice) in total yards per game at 402​
84th in yards per play at 5.50​
38th in ppg at 32.4​
67th in passing ypg at 228.5​
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That 2018 team had Joe Burrow (jr), Jefferson (soph), Chase & Marshall (granted Chase and Marshall were freshmen) as well as CEH (soph) and Moss (soph). All of the talent they set the world on fire with in 2019 was on the roster in 2018.

Enter Joe Brady in 2019

1st in total offense at 568.4 ypg​
2nd in ypg at 7.89​
1st in scoring at 48.4 ppg​
2nd in passing ypg at 401.6​
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Brady did benefit from having a talented skill group to work with, but so did LSU in 2018 and their offense wasn't nearly as dynamic as it was in 2019. Did a year of seasoning for guys like Chase and Marshall help that much? Maybe, but you can't deny the significant leaps their offense took year-over-year with Brady on board.
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RiDLer80 said:
I can't believe all of you questioning Brady's impact on that LSU team. Did you even know who Steve Esminger was before Brady got there--what about in 2020? Brady was brought to LSU for one reason, to modernize their archaic offense. LSU had been stuck in the dark ages of offense forever, and it held their program back. Brady fixed that.

In 2018 LSU was:

69th (nice) in total yards per game at 402​
84th in yards per play at 5.50​
38th in ppg at 32.4​
67th in passing ypg at 228.5​
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That 2018 team had Joe Burrow (jr), Jefferson (soph), Chase & Marshall (granted Chase and Marshall were freshmen) as well as CEH (soph) and Moss (soph). All of the talent they set the world on fire with in 2019 was on the roster in 2018.

Enter Joe Brady in 2019

1st in total offense at 568.4 ypg​
2nd in ypg at 7.89​
1st in scoring at 48.4 ppg​
2nd in passing ypg at 401.6​
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Brady did benefit from having a talented skill group to work with, but so did LSU in 2018 and their offense wasn't nearly as dynamic as it was in 2019. Did a year of seasoning for guys like Chase and Marshall help that much? Maybe, but you can't deny the significant leaps their offense took year-over-year with Brady on board.
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nobody is denying the leaps and bounds it took when he was on staff

but why get someone we have to debate whether or not the impact was solely on them, rather than going and hiring a PROVEN OC who has done it at multiple stops like kendal briles?


did brady have an impact? of course, was it significant? yes - but the fact is he's an UNKOWN and has never been a successful coordinator. We have a deep pocket book for the first time ever. why would we get someone who is unproven?
 
hesskilla said:
WTF I’m in on Dorsey as OC now. I just realized how good he could become in this role. He has a bunch of experience. He is qualified. To anyone doubting his qualifications, I ask you this question, “who is more likely to be an NFL OC next year, Brady or Dorsey?” I think the answer is probably close to a 50/50 split. So, why not give him his first shot here?
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I don't disagree with your overall assessment and I love Kenny too but I think that is too risky a move on our end- not because of Kenny's potential but because fit-wise I think we can't risk a first time playcaller with Cristobal as head coach.

Mario's one knock is gameday coaching and some offensive style issues. I personally want proven coordinators around him to hopefully mitigate that one weakness. Had we hired Kiffin (and I'm absolutely not trying to start that debate) then I think a Kenny as OC hire would've been a no-brainer.

I start with Herman and Brady and work my way down from there on offense with Mario as the CEO and trench specialist.
 
407cane said:
nobody is denying the leaps and bounds it took when he was on staff

but why get someone we have to debate whether or not the impact was solely on them, rather than going and hiring a PROVEN OC who has done it at multiple stops like kendal briles?


did brady have an impact? of course, was it significant? yes - but the fact is he's an UNKOWN and has never been a successful coordinator. We have a deep pocket book for the first time ever. why would we get someone who is unproven?
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Because when you add context to the improvement LSU had you realize it's a stupid *** debate.
 
Not even close in my mind, you take Brady WAAYYYY over Briles. I'm honestly a bigger fan of Art than Kendall's if we're being honest.

Mullen has to be a consideration as well. That's another guy I'd take over Kendall.
 
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407cane said:
nobody is denying the leaps and bounds it took when he was on staff

but why get someone we have to debate whether or not the impact was solely on them, rather than going and hiring a PROVEN OC who has done it at multiple stops like kendal briles?


did brady have an impact? of course, was it significant? yes - but the fact is he's an UNKOWN and has never been a successful coordinator. We have a deep pocket book for the first time ever. why would we get someone who is unproven?
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This exactly. Brady also had generational talent, which he won't have here.

Brady has had 3 seasons as an OC. He had 1 elite year and 2 meh years. When he had generational talent at LSU, he produced elite results. When had meh talent at Carolina, he produced meh results.

Briles, on the other hand, has literally improved every single offense he's touched. And not just improved them, but SUBSTANTIALLY improved them. Much more proven OC who does it year after year in the college level.
 
RiDLer80 said:
Because when you add context to the improvement LSU had you realize it's a stupid *** debate.
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TVD wasn't good last year, he was amazing this year

what changed about our offense? players were more comfortable


it's not a stupid *** debate, you guys are fangirling over joe brady and you're victimized over 2 decades of us hiring crap coordinators. we have real $$. Joe brady is promising in the future but he's not the BEST candidate we can get. He may work out who knows but to pretend a passing game coordinator is the sole reason superstar talent like joe burrow and the rest of that LSU team start clicking together is just shortsided
 
RiDLer80 said:
I can't believe all of you questioning Brady's impact on that LSU team. Did you even know who Steve Esminger was before Brady got there--what about in 2020? Brady was brought to LSU for one reason, to modernize their archaic offense. LSU had been stuck in the dark ages of offense forever, and it held their program back. Brady fixed that.

In 2018 LSU was:

69th (nice) in total yards per game at 402​
84th in yards per play at 5.50​
38th in ppg at 32.4​
67th in passing ypg at 228.5​
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That 2018 team had Joe Burrow (jr), Jefferson (soph), Chase & Marshall (granted Chase and Marshall were freshmen) as well as CEH (soph) and Moss (soph). All of the talent they set the world on fire with in 2019 was on the roster in 2018.

Enter Joe Brady in 2019

1st in total offense at 568.4 ypg​
2nd in ypg at 7.89​
1st in scoring at 48.4 ppg​
2nd in passing ypg at 401.6​
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Brady did benefit from having a talented skill group to work with, but so did LSU in 2018 and their offense wasn't nearly as dynamic as it was in 2019. Did a year of seasoning for guys like Chase and Marshall help that much? Maybe, but you can't deny the significant leaps their offense took year-over-year with Brady on board.
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Welcome to the fight brother, these guys see nfl firing and overthink things like dude didnt set the record books on fire and Burrow wasnt #1 pick Burrow going into the season, he wasnt even Day 2 Burrow.. lol.. All those guys are super talented but LSU had super talented guys on offense wasting away for yearsss
 
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407cane said:
TVD wasn't good last year, he was amazing this year

what changed about our offense? players were more comfortable


it's not a stupid *** debate, you guys are fangirling over joe brady and you're victimized over 2 decades of us hiring crap coordinators. we have real $$. Joe brady is promising in the future but he's not the BEST candidate we can get. He may work out who knows but to pretend a passing game coordinator is the sole reason superstar talent like joe burrow and the rest of that LSU team start clicking together is just shortsided
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I'd be fine with Brady IF he's part of a larger think tank. I'm not convinced he's the sole answer, but could be a **** fine piece of the puzzle. I see him as a Co-OC, not the main guy. That being said, I'd make him the highest paid Co-OC in history, because I think he brings something special to the table.
 
CanesNation26 said:
Brady also had generational talent, which he won't have here.
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Oh really?



That run of six consecutive 300+ yard/3+TD passing games is something no other ACC player has accomplished.

What are you going to say next, that the ACC has historically had ****ty QBs so TVDs streak isn't that impressive?
 
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TimeBum said:
Oh really?



That run of six consecutive 300+ yard/3+TD passing games is something no other ACC player has accomplished.

What are you going to say next, that the ACC has historically had ****ty QBs so TVDs streak isn't that impressive?
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Do we multiple NFL olinemen? Do we have multiple first round receivers (Justin Jefferson, Ja'Marr Chase)? Do we have a first round running back?

When did I say TVD's streak wasn't impressive? It was **** good. But QB isn't the whole team and Joe Burrow had the best statistical year of any QB in CFB history.

Here's a much better way to look at the question. Kendall Briles took over an atrocious FSU offense and improved them from 97 to 49 in S&P+ in one year. He took over an atrocious Arkansas offense and improved them from 105 to 25 in 2 years. What do we think Joe Brady would have done at those two stops? He had pretty bad offensive talent at Carolina. How'd he do? Did he improve them?

Again, I think Brady would be a good hire. But he's risky. He doesn't have a large body of work. Briles does and he's consistently produced impressive results.
 
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Baba Yaga said:
I want this. DGAF who the OC is, I want TVD to get a few 500+ yard games under his belt next year simply because I know the offense is capable of putting up stupid numbers in the passing game.
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I'll say this like I have every year since Rosier broke the TD record. If our QB doesn't break that record, it's a failure of a season. In this day and age, that record should not stand another season. TVD should shatter that record next year, as he would have this year had he played all year.
 
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