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Jarrett Payton tweet about Miami welcoming back former players

rsa coral gables said:
i grew up around julio cortes. if you know anything about him, you'll know he had no brakes on his mouth and was/is a no ***** given type of guy.

i remember reading the above and i'm glad he called out golden and d'onfrio.
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There was a Plethora of no Fs given players on that 83 team. Fitzpatrick was as bad as any of them.
 
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CaneSinceForEver said:
LOL, were you in the room when this happened:

The first shot in this ugly Civil War? It wasn't former Miami star Philip Buchanon calling coach Al Golden "Al Folden'' on Twitter. It wasn't former lineman Joaquin Gonzalez tweeting, "I think it's time for a new (defensive) coordinator."
The first shot came, face to face, behind closed doors. Golden invited former players to watch video of the spring game with current players. It started pleasantly enough. Dozens of alumni stood up, introduced themselves. Ted Hendricks. Brett Romberg.

"I'm Edgerrin James, and this is my room,'' the great running back said in the meeting room he donated money to build.
Everyone laughed. That's how the day began. As the video began, Golden told any alum with a question to ask it.

Julio Cortes, a captain of the 1983 championship team, remembers raising a hand after a few plays.
"I was looking at No. 51, the linebacker, which is what I played, and he's not reading his keys,'' Cortes said. "I'm watching the guard pull. The linebacker doesn't read him. He gets smoked. If you follow your keys, that doesn't happen.

"So I said, 'What is that guy coached to read?' And then I said, 'And why is he not hustling when the ball's on the other side of the field?' It upset me. I didn't know No. 51 was Denzel Perryman, their best player. They didn't have names on their jersey.
"I just wanted to know what they were being coached. And I didn't get a good answer. They said, 'It's different now.' OK, I said, 'What's the linebacker taught? What's his keys?' "

"I'm watching the TV wondering why that middle linebacker is lining up nine yards downfield," Cortes said. "That center for Georgia Tech didn't have a nose guard on him, and so he came out and immediately goes after the middle linebacker — Perryman.
"Cover the center so the linebacker can run more freely or move him up to five yards to have a chance. I screamed at the TV. I turned it off. I couldn't take any more."
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This is fascinating. Where did you get this? I’ve never even heard quotes from Julio Cortes before. That’s the name from the past. That’s some pretty good detailed **** right there.
 
CaneSinceForEver said:
LOL, were you in the room when this happened:

The first shot in this ugly Civil War? It wasn't former Miami star Philip Buchanon calling coach Al Golden "Al Folden'' on Twitter. It wasn't former lineman Joaquin Gonzalez tweeting, "I think it's time for a new (defensive) coordinator."
The first shot came, face to face, behind closed doors. Golden invited former players to watch video of the spring game with current players. It started pleasantly enough. Dozens of alumni stood up, introduced themselves. Ted Hendricks. Brett Romberg.

"I'm Edgerrin James, and this is my room,'' the great running back said in the meeting room he donated money to build.
Everyone laughed. That's how the day began. As the video began, Golden told any alum with a question to ask it.

Julio Cortes, a captain of the 1983 championship team, remembers raising a hand after a few plays.
"I was looking at No. 51, the linebacker, which is what I played, and he's not reading his keys,'' Cortes said. "I'm watching the guard pull. The linebacker doesn't read him. He gets smoked. If you follow your keys, that doesn't happen.

"So I said, 'What is that guy coached to read?' And then I said, 'And why is he not hustling when the ball's on the other side of the field?' It upset me. I didn't know No. 51 was Denzel Perryman, their best player. They didn't have names on their jersey.
"I just wanted to know what they were being coached. And I didn't get a good answer. They said, 'It's different now.' OK, I said, 'What's the linebacker taught? What's his keys?' "

"I'm watching the TV wondering why that middle linebacker is lining up nine yards downfield," Cortes said. "That center for Georgia Tech didn't have a nose guard on him, and so he came out and immediately goes after the middle linebacker — Perryman.
"Cover the center so the linebacker can run more freely or move him up to five yards to have a chance. I screamed at the TV. I turned it off. I couldn't take any more."
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Julio Cortes is a wild man and a CCHS legend. He was an amazing athlete and could have played baseball at UM.
 
SWFLHurricane said:
There was a Plethora of no Fs given players on that 83 team. Fitzpatrick was as bad as any of them.
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I remember lifting at my gym one day and Fitzpatrick and another player showed up and started to argue with the Canseco brothers over some girlfriend. Ozzie picked up a barbell and Fitzpatrick told him to put it down before he hurt himself. He didn't give a chit that he was outnumbered. Toughs SOB.
 
Gables Cane said:
I remember lifting at my gym one day and Fitzpatrick and another player showed up and started to argue with the Canseco brothers over some girlfriend. Ozzie picked up a barbell and Fitzpatrick told him to put it down before he hurt himself. He didn't give a chit that he was outnumbered. Toughs SOB.
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ha. good story. was the before or after the summer that they took steroids? would have been after they took steroids.

ozzie and jose were puzzies until they got big, then they got stupid
 
Brooklyndee said:
What's going on now is night and day from anything we e EVER seen. What we're being told now is not only are we wanted on campus and at games. But we're wanted at practice,in meetings. We're being told now we're wanted as mentors. We're being asked to help with the coaching to the point where even if we see an issue while coaching, to throw in our two cents. Richt was trending on a more scaled back version of that path. Mandy wanted us around as much as possible but honestly as players we didn't respect him or his staff and would turn into ****ing matches during spring at times. That's just not a good look on anyone's path and simply holds the kids back. Alfraud the first couple months said he wanted us involved till he realized we all saw through his coaches & there was friction. Onion it was more just hanging out with, much like with Ericson. Only jimmy & butch used us like weapons in his armory. Ways to sharpen what we got. But a far smaller scale than this.
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Do you truly believe these kids look up to and respect former players? Do you think former players are even on their radar? I don't think they respect players of the past. I think they only pay attention based on someone's social media presence. How many likes and followers? It's all about image with these guys lately. Hopefully Mario is bringing in a different breed of players who are more interested in actually being great than how they come across on social media.
 
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Srcanes93 said:
Do you truly believe these kids look up to and respect former players? Do you think former players are even on their radar? I don't think they respect players of the past. I think they only pay attention based on someone's social media presence. How many likes and followers? It's all about image with these guys lately. Hopefully Mario is bringing in a different breed of players who are more interested in actually being great than how they come across on social media.
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Eh. Yes and no. I think the majority of kids we have here and all the kids were going after, respect success. There's those of us they know our contributions from the NFL & there's those of us that they respect our achievements once spelled out to them. In large part it is what have you down for me lately. But when what you've done period amounts to a,b & c it's very different. Especially in these instances now with Mario & especially zo in house they illustrate our past regularly. Theirs been a big emphasis with these kids of developing a sense of pride on what this U Means & stands for opposed to simple words. They break down tape now of our games as much as they do their own. I think in large part it's simply basic human psychology. It's understanding the human brain and how it operates. It's just human nature that someone fights far harder when they believe in WHAT THEYRE FIGHTING FOR... I think it's a big part of where we've went wrong over the years. When I was here( and plenty of people before me as has been spoke about ad nauseam )we celebrated our legacy. We bled not only for the university, not only for our brothers on the same teams as us, but we bled because the struggles of our brothers before us had just as much value. We looked at this as a far bigger fight. All the way down to fighting for a social class (whatever that actually means anymore). I think with Coker we stopped seeing things as anything more than ego driven. Our only cause annually became ourselves. For me that's a sure fire way to fail. Richt was the first one who really attempted to start righting that path when he started up the u network and helping out alums. Richt himself is responsible for more progress at this university than possibly anyone previously because he took on the fight of all of ours. The fact he isn't revered on here is absurd to me. But I guess it's not relevant to everyone what's most relevant among us.
 
Gables Cane said:
I remember lifting at my gym one day and Fitzpatrick and another player showed up and started to argue with the Canseco brothers over some girlfriend. Ozzie picked up a barbell and Fitzpatrick told him to put it down before he hurt himself. He didn't give a chit that he was outnumbered. Toughs SOB.
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Tony's a close friend of mine. I sat with him during the UM vs ND game in 2017. Absolutely love the guy. The stories he has will leave you in stitches, especially Schnellenberger's Breakfast Club...(Howard's version of the Junction Boys) Tony said, F around and miss curfew, or be late to a meeting or practice, and you'd wish you were Dead the following a.m....Doing Crab Crawls at 4 a.m till you were literally vomiting....Lol
 
Srcanes93 said:
Do you truly believe these kids look up to and respect former players? Do you think former players are even on their radar? I don't think they respect players of the past. I think they only pay attention based on someone's social media presence. How many likes and followers? It's all about image with these guys lately. Hopefully Mario is bringing in a different breed of players who are more interested in actually being great than how they come across on social media.
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They absolutely do need to respect former players like @Brooklyndee and others. Those dudes practices would make today's players wince...The practices at GreenTree in the 90s would make a large contingent of today's players call home. Practices and off campus training back then were on a whole different level.
 
SWFLHurricane said:
They absolutely do need to respect former players like @Brooklyndee and others. Those dudes practices would make today's players wince...The practices at GreenTree in the 90s would make a large contingent of today's players call home. Practices and off campus training back then were on a whole different level.
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I agree with you that they need to. My question was do they or do they just roll there eyes and go straight to their social media to see how many more followers they have and how many likes they got on their last post
 
Brooklyndee said:
Eh. Yes and no. I think the majority of kids we have here and all the kids were going after, respect success. There's those of us they know our contributions from the NFL & there's those of us that they respect our achievements once spelled out to them. In large part it is what have you down for me lately. But when what you've done period amounts to a,b & c it's very different. Especially in these instances now with Mario & especially zo in house they illustrate our past regularly. Theirs been a big emphasis with these kids of developing a sense of pride on what this U Means & stands for opposed to simple words. They break down tape now of our games as much as they do their own. I think in large part it's simply basic human psychology. It's understanding the human brain and how it operates. It's just human nature that someone fights far harder when they believe in WHAT THEYRE FIGHTING FOR... I think it's a big part of where we've went wrong over the years. When I was here( and plenty of people before me as has been spoke about ad nauseam )we celebrated our legacy. We bled not only for the university, not only for our brothers on the same teams as us, but we bled because the struggles of our brothers before us had just as much value. We looked at this as a far bigger fight. All the way down to fighting for a social class (whatever that actually means anymore). I think with Coker we stopped seeing things as anything more than ego driven. Our only cause annually became ourselves. For me that's a sure fire way to fail. Richt was the first one who really attempted to start righting that path when he started up the u network and helping out alums. Richt himself is responsible for more progress at this university than possibly anyone previously because he took on the fight of all of ours. The fact he isn't revered on here is absurd to me. But I guess it's not relevant to everyone what's most relevant among us.
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Appreciate the perspective.
 
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Srcanes93 said:
I agree with you that they need to. My question was do they or do they just roll there eyes and go straight to their social media to see how many more followers they have and how many likes they got on their last post
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As Dee said, I think things will change with Mario...I've personally known Dee for 25yrs and If he's confident in what Mario's plans are, then I'm rolling with that.
 
RadioRahim said:
@Brooklyndee - when did you play for Miami and in what capacity? I know you've been posting forever and I read the board when I have time, but I'm not one of the high-volume regulars. Appreciate the insider perspective though.
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i'm pretty sure he isn't going to break his anonymity but the post above hits it on the head. a few clues. he played a skill position. he's white, he's from oklahoma originally and he weighed less than 189 in college. that should be enough to figure it out
 
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