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2026 Jackson Cantwell 5* OT from Nixa, MO

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TheOriginalCane said:
Seriously?

Recruits don't sign lifetime contracts with a coach. Once the coach has recruited them to a school, the players begin to make friends with their teammates and classmates. Coaching changes happen all the time, that doesn't mean players transfer and follow a coach anywhere he goes.

If Mario recruited the player to Oregon, he gets credit. If Mario also developed that player, he gets additional credit.

That is all.
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He didn’t sign with Mario and could have followed him to Miami like other recruits that cycle did. He also didn’t fully commit there until after Lanning had taken the job.

If he coached him that’s a whole different thing but he didn’t.
 
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COCane4Life said:
Cantwell is much more Proctor than Francis. He’ll be a force in the run game day 1 but pass protection is going to be a challenge. I have zero doubt, as long as he stays healthy he’s at minimum a day 2 pick down the line
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I’ll be shocked if he he’s not a first rounder as long as he stays healthy
 
Who gives a **** who got drafted where or who committed to who, Is the Oline play at the University of Miami good/great or not ? the answer to that question is ALL that ******* matters lol smh
 
CANESCANES said:
Cantwell is plug and play

Just look to the draft and see all the 5 star or top 100 OL that got drafted in the first round. It translates

Will Campbell- 40th overall - 3 year starter
Armound Membou- 4 star - 3 year starter
Kelvin Banks- 5 star- 3 year starter
Tyler Booker- 5 star- 3 year starter
Donovan Jackson- 5 star- 4 year starter
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Yes. 5 star guys get drafted at a higher rate than lower rated guys but that wasn’t my point. When you’re talking about the literal thousands of linemen, four or five guys who start as freshman is an extreme outlier. The league is full of All Pro linemen who were not 5 star recruits who started as freshmen.
 
Rellyrell said:
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DC3 said:
It’s really not a weird hill to die on saying he shouldn’t get credit for a guy he never coached.

There’s just not a lot to show for it as of now, but should change come next spring regarding NFL development.

Going into year 4 with the transfer portal, I know I was expecting more than 4 top 100 draft picks from a guy who’s considered such a great recruiter and how much we spend on NIL,
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You're right going into year 4 we dont have talent on this team.

Nailed it.

Mario rolled in with a full squad of ballers.

You have an agenda nothing more or less. Its fine.

Looking at this year 4 squad and comparing it to year 1 tells me all I need to know about Mario. It ain't the recruiting it's the on field stuff.

But hey carry on.
 
Alex_Dynamix said:
The guy isnt the best coach on gamedays by any stretch of the imagination but tryna discredit his strengths (OLine play)/(Talent Acquisition) is very weird behavior to me..
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Concur completely.

We are talking about OL as if we're not rolling into 2025 with arguably the best line in America.

It is what it is
 
bornagaincane said:
It’s not a Miami vs Georgia or vs Oregon thing. It’s a Mirable and Mario vs UGA and Oregon thing. Mirable and Mario are clearly better. By the way, Mario constructed the Oregon line that you talk about. Kirby Smart knows nothing about Oline compared to Mario
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How in the world are we saying Cristobal/Mirabal are better than what Georgia has produced? They put guys in the league at a far better clip than we're doing.

By any metric - recruiting rankings, production, wins, guys drafted - Georgia has had the better OL program the last 2-3 years.
 
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Hegemon said:
Concur completely.

We are talking about OL as if we're not rolling into 2025 with arguably the best line in America.

It is what it is
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I think the collective OL performance is being cast to the side in favor of individual OL who have been drafted in both totality and high in the drafts. Kirby has had lots of OL guys drafted high and now Lanning has two first rounders so its easy to the point the finger at Mario. It is what it is tbh, Francis will go first next year and if we can land a guy like Cantwell he has a super high ceiling. It would do a lot for Mario to have guys like Samson, Kinsler, McCoy, or Cooper get drafted relatively high to prove a development pattern at Miami.
 
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Damiencane86 said:
I think the collective OL performance is being cast to the side in favor of individual OL who have been drafted in both totality and high in the drafts. Kirby has had lots of OL guys drafted high and now Lanning has two first rounders so its made to the point the finger at Mario. It is what it is tbh, Francis will go first next year and if we can land a guy like Cantwell he has a super high ceiling. It would do a lot for Mario to have guys like Samson, Kinsler, McCoy, or Cooper get drafted relatively high to prove a development pattern at Miami.
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It will be the same thing for something else.

QB killer died

Again...

Its year four. Put up or shutup. ACCCG and Playoffs
 
htownkidd said:
Uhh, the kids they actually coach…..?

As for 2nd bolded part, who said they weren’t? Giving Mario credit for a kid that eventually signed with Oregon just because Mario recruited him while he was HC there but the kid didn’t commit to Oregon until months after he left for Miami, now THAT’s a wild hill to die on.

“He identified him!”. He was a mf 5*, so did Andrew Ivins and every other coach in America lol.

The FACTS are, these kids never played for him. I can’t believe I even have to explain this?
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Look who you’re talking to lol, a prominent bully sluprer on here.

You don’t have to explain yourself, save your breath.
 
Hegemon said:
What does Mario/Miami get credit for?

Such weird hills to die on. I even see posters saying Mario and company have had nothing to do with Ward.

Baffling stuff. So Mario and Mirabel aren't OL guys?
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He should get credit for Lee, Hanson, Lemieux, Rivers, Sewell, Ward, Arroyo, Borreagles, Baron, Stevenson, Ivey, Thibs, etc

There’s no need to play the mental gymnastics b/c every time this board goes “Mario built…” trying to discredit Lanning, then that same boomerang will easy come back & say “Helfrich built…or Manny built…” b/c in reality, the vast majority of the players that were drafted, here, were Manny’s recruits, & the vast majority of Oregon’s players drafted were Helfrich’s recruits while he was coaching there.

Just don’t play those mental games, & stick to who he coached up to get drafted at the time of the draft.
 
Rellyrell said:
He should get credit for Lee, Hanson, Lemieux, Rivers, Sewell, Ward, Arroyo, Borreagles, Baron, Stevenson, Ivey, Thibs, etc

There’s no need to play the mental gymnastics b/c every time this board goes “Mario built…” trying to discredit Lanning, then that same boomerang will easy come back & say “Helfrich built…or Manny built…” b/c in reality, the vast majority of the players that were drafted, here, were Manny’s recruits, & the vast majority of Oregon’s players drafted were Helfrich’s recruits while he was coaching there.

Just don’t play those mental games, & stick to who he coached up to get drafted at the time of the draft.
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Im playing zero mental games.

I agree

I just dont get the heel digging around Mario/Maribal and OL

Idgaf about the NFL draft and NFL U.

We have a top 5 top 3 **** top OL on paper going into this year. Mario and Maribal can sell anything they want on paper to any OL.

Its a baffling topic in general.
 
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Hegemon said:
Im playing zero mental games.

I agree

I just dont get the heel digging around Mario/Maribal and OL

Idgaf about the NFL draft and NFL U.

We have a top 5 top 3 **** top OL on paper going into this year. Mario and Maribal can sell anything they want on paper to any OL.

Its a baffling topic in general.
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I think this topic spiraled out of control b/c we have an affinity to dismiss other programs like UGA & UO who r pumping out OL to the NFL. The goal is to get the NFL, champ, not just play good college football.

Our OL under Mario & Mirabal has improved tremendously, but it’s far from elite; & as of right now, we haven’t produced a great OL draft pedigree. This notion of “why would a kid choose UGA or UO over Miami when we have Mario & Alex” is a moot point; why? B/c

1. UGA & UO has produced exponentially more OL draft picks since 2023 than Miami.

2. Key OL stats for these programs have been better than us since 2022:
Eg.
•Sacks Allowed Avg. Ranking (UO-14th, UGA-23rd, UM-61st)
•Rushing Avg. Rankings (UO-38th, UGA-47th, UM-57th)
•TFLs Allowed Avg. Rankings (UO-12th, UGA-19th, UM-37th)

Now with that being said, we have phenomenal OL teachers, but to act as if they’re the only ones or that a kid would be foolish for choosing those aforementioned programs over us is the purest form of Kool Aid drinkers.

If we’re talking about a top tier OLmen choosing FSU, UF, Colorado, Mich St, Oregon St, over us, then I 10000% agree, but UGA or UO based upon who they’ve produced at the next level under the current HC? Nah.

You recruit to the end, & hopefully he chooses us b/c of the potential domino effect; however, it’s not baffling or “dumb” if this kid were to chose one of those two aforementioned programs.
 
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so after we miss whats the excuse this time?
1. current recruits scaring him away?
2. mario not taking this personally
3. we got out bagged?

it seems every spring/early summer we are sold the grand plan about the guys we getting to commit
last year it was the DBs and the only one we got was the one from LA with the messed up leg
 
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