Remember how Mario had to scramble to even put together a recruiting class when he was hired? That was because of Diaz. Lanning walked into a put together class that he was able to keep together. That was because of marioManny left a broken team and program.
Where is this Manny Diaz revisionist history coming from along with Mario's lack of on the field production NOT being a problem. Of course it is.
Ive stated multiple times in this thread "Mario's issues are on the field".
"Mario needs to win. Now."
Its almost like yall gloss over what's being said because it's so triggering.
I dont get it...
Let's circle back to the part where I said "I agree with you."
Again Mario landing at Miami IS NOT the same as Lanning landing at OU. Its just not.
Infrastructure
Staffing across multiple departments
Recruiting
Financials
Team
Building Infrastructure
Mario whether anyone wants to believe it or not pulled Miami out of program obscurity as a whole.
You think Lanning had to adjust FUNDING compared to Mario? Stop it lol. Like is this real life?
Anyway I will say it again. Mario is in year 4. Hes been above average at best on the field here. AT BEST. This team as a whole on paper (assuming Beck is healthy of course) IMHO is better than last year's squad. As a whole... coaching remains to be a seen.
ACCCG and Playoffs.
Year one I wanted 6 wins. Got it
Two 8 wins. Fail
Three 10 wins. Got it (no the ending did not amuse me)
The track has been upward. Keep it moving. No excuses.
Miami gets no breaks like other programs.Remember how Mario had to scramble to even put together a recruiting class when he was hired? That was because of Diaz. Lanning walked into a put together class that he was able to keep together. That was because of mario
You mean Drew doesn’t donate to our NIL to get clients closer to Miami?Anyone thinking Rosenhaus Sports repping Cantwell was going to be good for us is wild to me. Drew doesnt care about Miami other than if he can make money off of people.
His agency was behind the TVD post spring shakedown where he held Mario hostage, they rep Restrepo convinced him not to play in bowl game, but let him run the 40. Shawn O'Dare specifically.
Did the rep Horton? Not sure.
They were behind Colbie Young transfer to UGA.
No friend of the program.
Knowing we dont have unlimited money, would you pay Cantwell 6 million over 3 years or say a Johnnie Jones 2 million over 3 years?
Chicken or the egg. Top 4 teams seem to have way more draft pics than anyone.
Remember how Mario had to scramble to even put together a recruiting class when he was hired? That was because of Diaz. Lanning walked into a put together class that he was able to keep together. That was because of mario
The only “agenda” on this board r dudes that constantly contradict themselves by lying to themselves.
So let’s be frank:
Did Mario do a good job at UO? Absolutely; but let’s be clear, he underachieved based upon the talent he INHERITED + the soft *** schedule Oregon played.
Now, let’s get back to this fan base:
Did u or did u not say if Manny Diaz was remotely a decent coach, the 2021 Canes were easily a 10+ win team? Ya’ll cats act like Mario inherited a 1-11 team like Deion; he inherited a 7-5 team that went 6-3 in its last 9, & lost those 3 games by a total of 9 points, combined.
It’s WHY WE WERE POURING CHAMPAGNE ON OURSELVES AFTER MARIO GOT HIRED! Ninja, I was the main one defending Mario during the 2022 season, & I got mad receipts; even justifying/rationalizing how we could go 5-7 yr 1, although it made zero sense.
But this constant excuse making, mental gymnastics, attempting to give this dude credit for **** he literally didn’t do is nauseating, & reeks of desperation. Some of ya’ll r worst then LBJ Stans, & I fcking hate it.
Like I said b4, if u’re attempting to give Mario credit for guys that ACTUALLY committed to &/or played for Lanning, then give Manny fcking Diaz his credit for the guys that committed to, &/or played for him; but, none of u dudes will ever do that **** b/c it DOESN’T MAKE SENSE OR FIT UR AGENDAS.
Let’s get back on topic; the whole point was it makes PERFECT SENSE for a top rated OL to choose UGA or UO b/c both HC have put OL in the NFL! What’s so hard for u to understand or grasp that?
Once again…
There’s zero reason to be loud & wrong constantly on this board when there’s something called the internet available. I know this fan base has this propensity of speaking out of pocket b/c the only thing ya’ll know r sun shades that come in the colors Orange & Green, but here are the facts:
1. Did Mario have to scramble to complete Miami’s ‘22 class? Yes, & credit to him. In fact, I big upped him for this.
2. Did Dan Lanning walk in to an already, ready-made class of ‘22? Lmao; how do I say this politely: FCK. NO.
Mario half assed recruiting for Oregon b/c he had one foot out the door. Oregon’s class of ‘22 had ‘18 total commits. Do u know how many commits they had prior to Lanning accepting the job 12/11/2021? 7:
-4* Devon Jackson
-4* Ben Roberts (no longer on the team)
-4* Trejon Williams (no longer on the team)
-4* Jalil Tucker (no longer on the team)
-4* Harrison Taggart (no longer on the team)
-3* Sir Mells (no longer on the team)
-3* Michael Wooten (no longer on the team)
Lmao
-Conerly
-Lowe
-Kasper
-Florence
-Luli
-James
-Terrell
-Winston
-Rogers
-Jones
-Dune
ALL committed either after ESD or NSD to Lanning, & he had to attack the portal, as well.
So how’s that any different than Mario having his 7, in house commits prior to him taking the job? :
-4* Khamari Rogers
-4* Wesley Bissainthe
-4* Chris Graves
-4* Markeith Williams
-4* Jacurri Brown
-4* Isaiah Horton
-3* Jaden Harris
Mario had 7 guys in tow, & Lanning had 7 guys in tow; the only difference is at least Mario got some production out of Brown, Bissainthe, Williams, & Horton, & Harris b4 each hit the portal (sans Bissainthe & Williams); Lanning only got production out of Jackson…don’t believe me?
Trejon Williams: 0 stats
Jahlil Tuckers 2 assisted tackles
Ben Roberts: 4 assisted tackles & 1 tackle in 2 seasons
Harrison Taggart: 0 stats
Sir Mells: 0 stats
Michael Wooten: 0 stats
Now would u like for me to bring up Bissainthe, Horton, Harris, Brown, & Williams stats by comparison?
Like I said, stop these narratives. It’s OK to say Lanning did a good job on his own merit, that doesn’t make u a fan of his or a slurper of his. In fact, I went on wax & said I didn’t think Lanning would succeed at UO, & I was proven completely wrong b/c it’s OK to be wrong, believe it or not.
What Lanning is doing at UO has **** to do w Mario, just like what Mario is doing here has **** to do w Diaz. Each coach is responsible for their own program, not what their predecessors did or didn’t do. What’s incredibly frustrating about this fan base is that there’s empirical evidence to support this statement RIGHT HERE IN CORAL GABLES!
Did Richt walk into an admirable, productive situation? U wanna talk about a coach that inherited bull ****? That’s Mark Richt.
1. 3 yrs removed probation.
2. Facilities in shambles
3. A HC that alienated the fan base
4. Inheriting a team that suffered its worst home lost in history
5. A team w horrible S&C, using pizza & burgers as its bulking guide
Did that stop him from IMMEDIATELY turning the program around pre-NIL, pre-Portal, mind u? Richt had to work w what he had. Like what do ya’ll be talking about?
As stated numerous times by me, ya’ll have more excuses than a little bit, create bull **** narratives w/ no substance that can easily be debunked. This is the main reason y I cannot wait for the day until we start winning again to stop this board’s insanity.
Edit: & to put this Mario = Conerly bull **** to rest; Conerly didn’t even OV to UO until March 2022. Lol. So yeah, Lanning had to work his *** off to get him to commit b/c Conerly was “this close” to playing w Caleb & Lincoln at USC. Lmao. In fact, USC & Nat’l writers were certain he was committing to USC.
#loudandwrong
Miami gets no breaks like other programs.
Day 1 championship or die.
@Rellyrell ’s raised this before - even with stuff said in the last NFL draft - some of these guys on here gleefully credit Mario for Diaz’s good players but don’t credit Lanning the same way.You just dont get it man. The ONLY one who can flip a roster and take all the credit is Mario. The rest have to give credt to the previous coach even if they replace 80% of a roster in 2 years. Just like how Mario and Mirabel are the only 2 good oline coaches in college football. Just the way it is.
So, if for example, guys like Rivers, Restrepo, and Arroyo played 1 season each under Manny and 3 under Mario why does Manny get credited for developing them and/or the labeling them as his players ?@Rellyrell ’s raised this before - even with stuff said in the last NFL draft - some of these guys on here gleefully credit Mario for Diaz’s good players but don’t credit Lanning the same way.
We’re talking about who recruited the players drafted but even in your example, they don’t credit the same. It’s all Mario, point being, be equal in standards.So, if for example, guys like Rivers, Restrepo, and Arroyo played 1 season each under Manny and 3 under Mario why does Manny get credited for developing them and/or the labeling them as his players ?
So, if for example, guys like Rivers, Restrepo, and Arroyo played 1 season each under Manny and 3 under Mario why does Manny get credited for developing them and/or the labeling them as his players ?
So, if for example, guys like Rivers, Restrepo, and Arroyo played 1 season each under Manny and 3 under Mario why does Manny get credited for developing them and/or the labeling them as his players ?
B/c guys like Jackson-Powers, Bassa, Troy Franklin, & Ferguson r being credit to Mario under the same criteria. U can’t have it both ways.
Then it shouldn't be. In today era players and coaches are moving around fast so multiple systems, assistants, and S&C groups will all affect development. Ultimately, MC hasn't fully met early expectations, but he's done good things too. I am glad he is here compared to what we had in Diaz.B/c guys like Jackson-Powers, Bassa, Troy Franklin, & Ferguson r being credit to Mario under the same criteria. U can’t have it both ways.
I was literally just typing this with these names. These people are hysterical.
Then it shouldn't be. In today era players and coaches are moving around fast so multiple systems, assistants, and S&C groups will all affect development. Ultimately, MC hasn't fully met early expectations, but he's done good things too. I am glad he is here compared to what we had in Diaz.