OrangeBowlMagic
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Keep crootin till December.
This kid and all the others.
This kid and all the others.
no need to worryWriting seems on the wall for Georgia, if he does commit there we will have missed on our Top 2 OT targets. Who do we pivot to if this were to happen? Who is our OT3 in this class?
exactly like picket and hanks from last yearKeep crootin till December.
This kid and all the others.
i agree im more suprised about the pepe missI'll be honest I thought Peepee was more likely then this big dude from Missouri
Kirby can probably claim more OL development than Mario/Mirabal in citing NFL draft picks.UGA develops at a high level too.
They finally starting to come around to my side, pause
a wr is dependent on a qb to throw them the ball. When you dont have that one in place in time wellllll.....Florida Oline talent is always a flop I don’t care about the rankings cantwell and Pepe are day 1 ready guys. We said the same thing about the portal when it came to receiver and ended up with three warm bodies. Elite talent comes from high school.
exactly its a results businessKirby can probably claim more OL development than Mario/Mirabal in citing NFL draft picks.
And the reason is he’s not trying to turn 3 star projects in to NFL draft picksKirby can probably claim more OL development than Mario/Mirabal in citing NFL draft picks.
People forget Mario's been in this offensive line game for a long timeKirby can probably claim more OL development than Mario/Mirabal in citing NFL draft picks.
I'm sure propoganda will be thick. Some under the radar late bloomer with massive upside. It'll be a 5 ft 6 white dude from Nebraska.Writing seems on the wall for Georgia, if he does commit there we will have missed on our Top 2 OT targets. Who do we pivot to if this were to happen? Who is our OT3 in this class?
its not a s big as you would think. Us being in the sec doesnt just make us better recruiting it still will be MIAMI.Do you not believe that the conference in which a school plays is a major factor to most blue chip recruits who aspire to play in the NFL?
Laying my cards down, I'm concerned that a lot of these kids view teams in the ACC or Big 12 as second class or somehow less attractive because of the conference. Am I off base?
Really surprised I missed this response. So let me 1st say this is no offense to u, but I think u need to understand two elements here:
1. I’m not an avg. poster on this board. I’ve had more youngins than a little bit play D-1 ball including one, currently, who is now at UNC; so I’m more than familiar w how recruiting works.
2. Know when I post dogmatically, I’m not posting just random b.s. Anything Nike, Oregon, or USC related & there’s a high probability I know more than I let on, & those in my PM know, know.
So let’s 1st discuss recruiting in general:
It used to b mostly about relationships, but now we know NIL is a huge component. However, since 2022 wasn’t the wild, wild West as we know it to be today, let’s focus on the relationship aspect of recruiting, as that’s most applicable during this timeframe:
-Just b/c Coach A develops a relationship w/ Recruit A while he’s employed at School A doesn’t mean Recruit A will commit. We know this b/c if this was the case, every coach would be batting 1.000 in recruiting.
-W/ that said, y is it advantageous to go by “commit date?” B/c if Coach A couldn’t seal the deal for Recruits A, B, C etc. w/in a full recruiting cycle, including ESD, but their predecessor (Coach B) comes in to seal the deal, that Coach deserves that credit. It’s no different than if Coach A takes a new job at School B, & now Recruits A, B, C, etc. follows him. It means his relationship was so strong w the recruit & their team, they followed him.
-On the other hand, It’s a whole different story if that same Coach A gets Recruits A,B, C etc. to commit to School A, but after moving on to School B, all his predecessor has to do is maintain status quo.
Now that we got that out the way, here’s the fallacy in trying to give credit to Mario for the following recruits Lanning secured:
1. Connerly: Never OV’d to Oregon w/ Mario; BUT, he did OV to Miami when Mario became HC. He OV’d to Miami, USC, & UO w/ Lanning. The battle at the end was Miami & USC, w USC getting the CB; yet, Lanning snatched him! So how do u not give him credit for this when Mario had his first OV?
2. James: Was actually committed to UGA, & didn’t receive an offer to UO until AFTER Lanning was hired. Lanning flipped him, so how do u not give Lanning credit for this?
3. Luli: Committed to Mario at UO, then de-committed after Mario left. He OV’d to Miami w/ Mario, yet Lanning got him to re-commit. So how do u not give Lanning credit for this?
4. Florence: Another guy who committed to Mario at UO. He de-commits after Mario leaves. He OV’s to Miami w/ Mario, yet once again, Lanning got him to re-commit. Again, how do u not give Lanning credit for this?
5. Terrell: Didn’t even receive an offer from UO until AFTER Lanning was hired; how does he not get credit for this?
6. Kasper: Offered by Mario twice, once at Oregon, & again at Miami. Kasper didn’t sign at ESD or NSD, but the competition was actually UTenn; yet, it was Lanning who pulled him. So how did this kid pass on Mario twice & choose Lanning? Better yet, how is Lanning not credited for this?
7. Lowe: Lowe was a Utah commit. Lanning worked to flip him AFTER ESD, and sealed his commitment on NSD. So how is he not credited for this?
8. Rogers: Wasn’t even on Mario’s radar; was offered AFTER Lanning took the job & secured his commitment ASAP. Again, how is this not credited to Lanning, again?
9. Dunne: P from Australia. Offered a scholly AFTER Lanning was hired. How is this not credited to him?
10. Winston: Committed to Mario in 2020, de-committed after Mario left for Miami. He was a UF v. UW battle down the home stretch, & Lanning got him to OV to re-secure his commitment. How is Lanning not credited for this?
So let’s recap:
Out of the 55% that comprised UO’s class of ‘22
-4 of the 10 didn’t receive an offer from Mario
-3 were de-commits
-2 were de-commits that OV’d to Miami & still re-committed
-2 were flips from other programs
-2 were offered twice by Mario, & chose Lanning after NSD
I repeat:
1. These unsubstantiated narratives have to stop
2. The difference makers from the Class of ‘22 is all Lanning EXCEPT Devon Jackson who committed to Mario & remained a Duck.
To put a bow on this:
•All of Mario’s recruits that committed & remained were all shipped out except for Jackson, & they’re all buns bouncing from program to program or have gotten stuck in the portal.
Right, UM went hard at these two and missed, it is what it is, no time to cry about it still gotta recruit like all the other 128 teams that didnt land these two.a wr is dependent on a qb to throw them the ball. When you dont have that one in place in time wellllll.....
An ol isnt dependent on sh*t...OL 's can be drafted from a div 2 school it doesnt really matter. Im willing to bet we would be in instant play with whomever is the top OL that enters the portal.
We've got basic at wr in the portal the last two cycles because we havent had a a qb locked in time.
I have Pepe as more so a day 1 ready guy than Cantwell. But thats been my opinion. There isnt just 2 day 1 ready guys in the nation lol
Literally have never seen a headline by one of the major recruiting networks stating any school has the highest offer since NIL has been a thing. I’m not the one to shout “oh woe is me and everyone is out to get UM” but that’s hilarious. They are really hammering this narrative and it’s a lose lose either way.
I just shake my head at the fact that we had the #1 QB in the country and couldn’t even make a 12 team playoff. I can’t imagine what recruits think. Cristobal needed to be self aware enough of his reputation as “Mr Meltdown” to get recruits like this locked up immediately, as the longer he waited the more time it would give other teams to negative recruit against him. We had the best offer
for J. Smith, he didn’t trust Cristobal. We had the best offer for Cantwell, looks like he doesn’t trust Cristobal. I don’t know how Cristobal is going to improve his reputation. I think 2025 will be a 8-9 win season at best- and then what can he do after that to inspire recruits ? I don’t want to say he’s cooked yet but I think he’s getting dangerously close.
My understanding from this board was that UM had a significantly better offer than anyone else, then last second Ohio st upped their offer to get close to our number, and that was what JS waiting for. We still had the higher number.
He could start but it doesn't guarantee he would be great day 1 buddy. You think 5 stars aren't busts ? Cough cough SamsonCantwell has former players begging on Twitter lol he was starting at RT day one buddy