2026 Jackson Cantwell 5* OT from Nixa, MO

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Writing seems on the wall for Georgia, if he does commit there we will have missed on our Top 2 OT targets. Who do we pivot to if this were to happen? Who is our OT3 in this class?
no need to worry
weve been stacking jags that at least look the part over the past couple cycles
weve also been told that we have the best developers in CFB so Mario/mirabel 3 stars is >>>> than industry 5 stars
that will be our new dose of copium to inject
 
Florida Oline talent is always a flop I don’t care about the rankings cantwell and Pepe are day 1 ready guys. We said the same thing about the portal when it came to receiver and ended up with three warm bodies. Elite talent comes from high school.
a wr is dependent on a qb to throw them the ball. When you dont have that one in place in time wellllll.....

An ol isnt dependent on sh*t...OL 's can be drafted from a div 2 school it doesnt really matter. Im willing to bet we would be in instant play with whomever is the top OL that enters the portal.

We've got basic at wr in the portal the last two cycles because we havent had a a qb locked in time.

I have Pepe as more so a day 1 ready guy than Cantwell. But thats been my opinion. There isnt just 2 day 1 ready guys in the nation lol
 
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Kirby can probably claim more OL development than Mario/Mirabal in citing NFL draft picks.
exactly its a results business
development = nfl draft
and Kirby can claim much more than even mario/mirabel over the past 5 years
 
Kirby can probably claim more OL development than Mario/Mirabal in citing NFL draft picks.
And the reason is he’s not trying to turn 3 star projects in to NFL draft picks

They just had 3 guys drafted in the 2nd and 3rd rounds

Insert these guys now

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Writing seems on the wall for Georgia, if he does commit there we will have missed on our Top 2 OT targets. Who do we pivot to if this were to happen? Who is our OT3 in this class?
I'm sure propoganda will be thick. Some under the radar late bloomer with massive upside. It'll be a 5 ft 6 white dude from Nebraska.
 
Do you not believe that the conference in which a school plays is a major factor to most blue chip recruits who aspire to play in the NFL?
Laying my cards down, I'm concerned that a lot of these kids view teams in the ACC or Big 12 as second class or somehow less attractive because of the conference. Am I off base?
its not a s big as you would think. Us being in the sec doesnt just make us better recruiting it still will be MIAMI.

Of course kids in the deep south it may mean something. Because they have been brainwashed to think that way. But south florida kids dont really give a f*ck to that level imo. They wanna go where they can get paid and get to the league that can be wherever.
 
Really surprised I missed this response. So let me 1st say this is no offense to u, but I think u need to understand two elements here:

1. I’m not an avg. poster on this board. I’ve had more youngins than a little bit play D-1 ball including one, currently, who is now at UNC; so I’m more than familiar w how recruiting works.

2. Know when I post dogmatically, I’m not posting just random b.s. Anything Nike, Oregon, or USC related & there’s a high probability I know more than I let on, & those in my PM know, know.

So let’s 1st discuss recruiting in general:

It used to b mostly about relationships, but now we know NIL is a huge component. However, since 2022 wasn’t the wild, wild West as we know it to be today, let’s focus on the relationship aspect of recruiting, as that’s most applicable during this timeframe:

-Just b/c Coach A develops a relationship w/ Recruit A while he’s employed at School A doesn’t mean Recruit A will commit. We know this b/c if this was the case, every coach would be batting 1.000 in recruiting.

-W/ that said, y is it advantageous to go by “commit date?” B/c if Coach A couldn’t seal the deal for Recruits A, B, C etc. w/in a full recruiting cycle, including ESD, but their predecessor (Coach B) comes in to seal the deal, that Coach deserves that credit. It’s no different than if Coach A takes a new job at School B, & now Recruits A, B, C, etc. follows him. It means his relationship was so strong w the recruit & their team, they followed him.

-On the other hand, It’s a whole different story if that same Coach A gets Recruits A,B, C etc. to commit to School A, but after moving on to School B, all his predecessor has to do is maintain status quo.

Now that we got that out the way, here’s the fallacy in trying to give credit to Mario for the following recruits Lanning secured:

1. Connerly: Never OV’d to Oregon w/ Mario; BUT, he did OV to Miami when Mario became HC. He OV’d to Miami, USC, & UO w/ Lanning. The battle at the end was Miami & USC, w USC getting the CB; yet, Lanning snatched him! So how do u not give him credit for this when Mario had his first OV?

2. James: Was actually committed to UGA, & didn’t receive an offer to UO until AFTER Lanning was hired. Lanning flipped him, so how do u not give Lanning credit for this?

3. Luli: Committed to Mario at UO, then de-committed after Mario left. He OV’d to Miami w/ Mario, yet Lanning got him to re-commit. So how do u not give Lanning credit for this?

4. Florence: Another guy who committed to Mario at UO. He de-commits after Mario leaves. He OV’s to Miami w/ Mario, yet once again, Lanning got him to re-commit. Again, how do u not give Lanning credit for this?

5. Terrell: Didn’t even receive an offer from UO until AFTER Lanning was hired; how does he not get credit for this?

6. Kasper: Offered by Mario twice, once at Oregon, & again at Miami. Kasper didn’t sign at ESD or NSD, but the competition was actually UTenn; yet, it was Lanning who pulled him. So how did this kid pass on Mario twice & choose Lanning? Better yet, how is Lanning not credited for this?

7. Lowe: Lowe was a Utah commit. Lanning worked to flip him AFTER ESD, and sealed his commitment on NSD. So how is he not credited for this?

8. Rogers: Wasn’t even on Mario’s radar; was offered AFTER Lanning took the job & secured his commitment ASAP. Again, how is this not credited to Lanning, again?

9. Dunne: P from Australia. Offered a scholly AFTER Lanning was hired. How is this not credited to him?

10. Winston: Committed to Mario in 2020, de-committed after Mario left for Miami. He was a UF v. UW battle down the home stretch, & Lanning got him to OV to re-secure his commitment. How is Lanning not credited for this?

So let’s recap:

Out of the 55% that comprised UO’s class of ‘22
-4 of the 10 didn’t receive an offer from Mario
-3 were de-commits
-2 were de-commits that OV’d to Miami & still re-committed
-2 were flips from other programs
-2 were offered twice by Mario, & chose Lanning after NSD

I repeat:
1. These unsubstantiated narratives have to stop
2. The difference makers from the Class of ‘22 is all Lanning EXCEPT Devon Jackson who committed to Mario & remained a Duck.

To put a bow on this:
•All of Mario’s recruits that committed & remained were all shipped out except for Jackson, & they’re all buns bouncing from program to program or have gotten stuck in the portal.


First, nobody ever said you were an average poster. You know I don't think that of you.

Second, I made a very clear point. These are not binary "credit/no-credit" issues. I already said that I gave Lanning credit for converting guys who were already leaning and/or committed to Oregon to stay with Oregon. On the other hand, when someone has recruited a player to Oregon for two to four years, and then another coach comes in for two to four weeks, he doesn't "get full credit" for getting that kid to sign with Oregon.

Lanning was not a head coach somewhere else before going to Oregon. Mario was a head coach somewhere else before coming to Miami. Therefore, Mario had more of the overall connection to recruiting the particular players up until the point he left Oregon than Lanning was ever able to have before taking the head coaching job at Oregon. That should be beyond debate.

1. Josh Conerly - what in the **** are we talking about here? I would never NOT give Lanning a decent amount of credit for Conerly, since he did not COMMIT anywhere until April 2022. Sure, we can count him in the 2022 signing class, but in no way did he conform to the December 2021/February 2022 signing timeframe. But let's get the order of events straight. Mario offered him at Oregon in 2019 and Conerly took an unofficial visit to Oregon in 2019. So by the time Mario left at the end of 2021, he had been recruiting Conerly for WELL OVER TWO YEARS from the offer date, if not longer. Unfortunately, the 2020 COVID year intervened, so I'm not sure anyone visited any schools in 2020. Once Mario went to Miami, Miami immediately offered Conerly, but Conerly is from Washington, so it was no slam dunk that he would follow Mario to Miami. So this is one recruitment where we both have valid points. Mario recruited Conerly to Oregon for nearly 3 years. But because Lanning had more than 3 weeks to recruit Conerly, I will give Lanning more credit for landing Conerly, as he was able to recruit him for nearly 4 months.

2. Jordan James - this is a Lanning flip. Full credit. Mario/Oregon not involved previously. 10-month commit to UGa was flipped.

3. Dave Iuli - Washington kid who committed to Mario/Oregon. This is exactly the kind of recruit I'm talking about. A decommit after a coach leaves does not wipe the board clean. Sure, he visited Miami, no argument. But when Mario has recruited a kid from the northwest to Oregon for multiple years, and then Lanning comes in and gets a local kid to recommit after a few weeks, that does not turn him into a Lanning recruit. I'll give Lanning full marks on the development side, but any decent coaching hire would have been able to get Iuli to recommit to Oregon. It's a layup. And the ONLY reason I give Mario a decent amount of credit for HIS first HC signing class at Oregon was because he was the OC for the year prior and was already recruiting those guys. A guy who recruits a previously committed guy for 4 weeks is just making the PAT after a touchdown.

4. Jahlil Florence - Another west coast kid who committed to Mario/Oregon. Same as Dave Iuli. Decided he didn't want to follow Mario to Miami, and I'm fine with that. But let's not confuse the short-time work that Lanning did for the longer-time work that Mario did. Lanning converted the PAT, and Lanning gets credit for development.

5. Khamari Terrell - Lanning gets full credit for this recruitment. Does Lanning also get full developmental credit for this kid sliding over to Texas State? Just asking.

6. Kyler Kasper - As with Conerly above, I am more willing to give Lanning credit for Kasper because he did not commit/sign until April 2022, so Lanning had months (plural) to recruit Kasper. Again, a west coast kid that nobody expected to go all the way to Miami.

7. Justius Lowe - This one is an interesting one. He was from Oregon, 100 miles from the campus. He was only committed to Utah for a month before Lanning flipped him mid-January. I'll give Lanning credit, but we've seen this story a million times before, where a local kid decides to stay local once the new coach shows a lot of love.

8. Kawika Rogers - He's from Hawaii. Lightly recruited 3-star until Lanning called him. Lanning gets full credit, but he's more of a class-filler.

9. Luke Dunne - We cannot possibly be talking about a punter. I'd also point out that he committed in DECEMBER 2022. A full year after Mario left Oregon. Should not even be included on this list. Lanning gets full credit. Just transferred to Washington.

10. Emar'rion Winston - Again, one of the guys I'm talking about. From PORTLAND. Committed to Mario/Oregon for 2 years. Did he decommit? Sure. Did that mean he didn't want to stay in Oregon? No. Did that mean he wanted to follow Mario to Miami? No. Did Lanning spend a few weeks convincing a Portland, OR kid to remain in Oregon after having been committed for two years? Sure. Point After Touchdown.

Soooo...

Of those 10 guys...two of them probably shouldn't even be on the list (Rogers/Dunne).

Of the remaining 8 guys...five of those guys were west coast guys who committed to Mario/Oregon and were converted to Oregon re-commits by Lanning. Only 3 of the 5 visited Miami. I give Lanning more credit for Conerly and Kasper, as those guys did not commit until April 2022.

Of the remaining 3 guys...Jordan James was a straight steal from UGa. Lanning gets full credit for Khamari Terrell. And Lanning flipped hometown boy Justius Lowe back to Oregon from Washington after a month-long commitment.

Again, half of the 10 names you mentioned were west coast guys that Mario invested 6 months to 3 years of recruitment in, guys who were ALL from nearby (OR, WA, CA, AZ), and who were never going to follow Mario to Miami, even if we got some courtesy visits. And Lanning got lucky to have some extra time to recruit Conerly and Kasper, but credit to him to staying on those two.

I don't go base my conclusions on the 247 timeline. Context matters.

If you want to criticize Mario for failing to flip Conerly, Iuli, and Florence, that's fine. But let's not pretend that Mario didn't ALSO spend years recruiting those west-coast guys to Oregon in the first place. Not sure why we simply "flip the credit" to Lanning for a few weeks of damage control (or a few months in the case of Conerly).
 
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a wr is dependent on a qb to throw them the ball. When you dont have that one in place in time wellllll.....

An ol isnt dependent on sh*t...OL 's can be drafted from a div 2 school it doesnt really matter. Im willing to bet we would be in instant play with whomever is the top OL that enters the portal.

We've got basic at wr in the portal the last two cycles because we havent had a a qb locked in time.

I have Pepe as more so a day 1 ready guy than Cantwell. But thats been my opinion. There isnt just 2 day 1 ready guys in the nation lol
Right, UM went hard at these two and missed, it is what it is, no time to cry about it still gotta recruit like all the other 128 teams that didnt land these two.
 
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Literally have never seen a headline by one of the major recruiting networks stating any school has the highest offer since NIL has been a thing. I’m not the one to shout “oh woe is me and everyone is out to get UM” but that’s hilarious. They are really hammering this narrative and it’s a lose lose either way.


Ohio Taint floated those stories around Jeremiah Smith's commitment about how Miami had the largest monetary offer, but that Jeremiah was still picking them for "the love of the game".

Then Taint outbid Miami.
 
I just shake my head at the fact that we had the #1 QB in the country and couldn’t even make a 12 team playoff. I can’t imagine what recruits think. Cristobal needed to be self aware enough of his reputation as “Mr Meltdown” to get recruits like this locked up immediately, as the longer he waited the more time it would give other teams to negative recruit against him. We had the best offer
for J. Smith, he didn’t trust Cristobal. We had the best offer for Cantwell, looks like he doesn’t trust Cristobal. I don’t know how Cristobal is going to improve his reputation. I think 2025 will be a 8-9 win season at best- and then what can he do after that to inspire recruits ? I don’t want to say he’s cooked yet but I think he’s getting dangerously close.


We did not have the highest offer for Jeremiah Smith.
 
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