Is Duke Really Gone After This Year?

Tad Footeball

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I know conventional wisdom has him leaving and for a myriad of reason that might be the right choice...but is there a better chance than we're realizing that he might come back? Here's the case a hopeful/delusional fan could make:

a) He's not going in the first round and very likely might not go in the second. The NFL has devalued the RB position so much that guys you'd see as guaranteed first rounders (Gurley types) now only go in the second.

b) The NFL Rookie salary structure really kills a kid that doesn't go as high as he's projected or is misled into thinking he'll go (cough, Rosenhaus, cough). A cursory glance of typcial rookie contracts this season has a second rounder getting a 4 year deal at about $1 million per and a signing bonus of somewhere a little over $1 mil. If a kid falls to the 4th (something exponentially easier for a RB to do) that base salary drops to the $600k range with a typical signing bonus of about $500k. Factor in taxes and the agent's cut and that's not exactly "set for life" money for a position where you may not even see a second contract.

c) No matter how much the staff tries (if they're still here), our offense won't be worse next year. Kaaya's progression alone will guarantee that and Yearby's increased touches could diminish Duke's pounding and chance of injury.

I'm not saying there's a great chance of his return and I think he'll be sold on that he's a third rounder at worst (and the school will probably be too dumb/cheap to pay an insurance policy for him) but I'm also saying that the case could be made to come back and try to solidify the probability of getting the second round money as opposed to a doomsday scenario of getting half of that and praying you stay healthy enough to get a real contract.
 
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I really don't think so.
Gurley
Abdullah
Gordon
are all going ahead of him.

Only two will go in the second. Maybe Duke goes in the third or fourth. I see it being the fourth.
 
Butch Davis convinced Ed Reed to stay for his senior year, and Butch wasn't even here for it. I think if we hire Butch he can convince Duke to stick around. Butch could convince a Haitian to quit smelling like powder.
 
If I were him I'd go. The retirement age for running backs is only getting younger. I don't think he really has anything else to prove other than he can stay healthy. This program is going to continue to misuse him anyways.

I don't see him as an "every down" back in the NFL, he's just not big enough and won't take the pounding. I can see him being an elite back though if used like sproles if they feed hime 12-20 touches a game.
 
i traditionally always think it's in the best interest of runningbacks to leave after three years for the simple reason that their shelf-life is so short. the one exception being if the rb missed his junior year because of an injury and didn't have enough film out but by rule a rb should come out ASAP if he wants to last in the NFL.
 
He'll stay if there's a dynamic coaching change that will raise his stock and give him the opportunity to play for a bowl game and win.
 
Butch Davis convinced Ed Reed to stay for his senior year, and Butch wasn't even here for it. I think if we hire Butch he can convince Duke to stick around. Butch could convince a Haitian to quit smelling like powder.

Butch would only have to convince him to stay and Duke would convince the rest of them. With that group coming back Butch could win big and get this program back to recruiting itself.
 
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Butch Davis convinced Ed Reed to stay for his senior year, and Butch wasn't even here for it. I think if we hire Butch he can convince Duke to stick around. Butch could convince a Haitian to quit smelling like powder.

Butch would only have to convince him to stay and Duke would convince the rest of them. With that group coming back Butch could win big and get this program back to recruiting itself.

Is Butch going to recruit Duke to stay so he can comment on his games from the ESPN booth?
 
At minimum I want to hear that the school offered (ala the TAMU trend) to use that loophole and cover the premium for the max insurance policy that he could get. Even if he already told the school going into this year that there's not a chance in Gainesville that he's coming back, I want to hear that they offered it nonetheless. No Flake Jimmy weak sauce talk that "it wasn't even an option on the table because he was set to graduate and expressed to us that he was leaving blah blah blah". I want to know that they at least told him and Momma Duke that they'd cover it and it was the max that an insurance company would offer. Set the freaking right tone for once. I'm over the goodwill that was offered in giving Chad Wilson free tuition as a former player. Put some real money on the table for something that'd make a real difference.
 
He's coming back after an injury with a lot of competition for top rb, with an inexperienced offensive line and true freshman QB. He will be a year removed from the injury with an experienced line and QB. Two thousand plus yards seasons in a row would set him up nicely.
 
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Gone. His Mom say so on Twitter, and she blames the fans.

How can she blame us? WTF did I do? I can promise I didn't have anything to do with this ****ty *** defense.

She's just frustrated and the fans frustrations are compounding it. If my son had Duke's football talent, it would break my effin soul to point him to a program other than Miami. That program just doesn't exist right now, it's the Coral Gables whatevers, as there's zero Miami in what the Hurricanes are doing right now.
 
i traditionally always think it's in the best interest of runningbacks to leave after three years for the simple reason that their shelf-life is so short. the one exception being if the rb missed his junior year because of an injury and didn't have enough film out but by rule a rb should come out ASAP if he wants to last in the NFL.

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I really don't think so.
Gurley
Abdullah
Gordon
are all going ahead of him.

Only two will go in the second. Maybe Duke goes in the third or fourth. I see it being the fourth.

Why will only 2 go in the second round? That doesn't make any sense.

Bishop Sankey, Jeremy Hill, Carlos Hyde all went in the second last year and they are lesser prospects then the guys listed above.
 
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