Depending on if you believe "hood rumors" then there is more to this story then meets the eye. Just depends on what you believe.People here forget he’s already shown UM what he’ll do when a better opportunity is one of his options.
Depending on if you believe "hood rumors" then there is more to this story then meets the eye. Just depends on what you believe.People here forget he’s already shown UM what he’ll do when a better opportunity is one of his options.
I'm not a big Mario fan - I think there are far more talented HCs out there - but most of you think he'd be great and evidently certain BOTs have such a hardon for him that they'll pay his buyout themselves.It's not so much about money as it is opportunity costs. Which is more likely to bring a national championship:
1. Pay Cristobal the equivalent to 8 million per year and then giving him a budget for coordinators that would need to be in the sub 2 million range
2. Hiring a coach like Freeze or Herman for 5-6 million (Herman would probably cost even way less than that for his first two years) and giving them the ability to hire the best coordinators in cfb, with virtually no budget limitations? He could have a Bama sized staff of analysts. One thing we've learned is that most championship teams have elite staffs. Teams with a good HC and bunch of potatoes as assistant coaches don't usually go far.
Personally I think the latter option gives you a far greater chance of success, yet the cost is nearly identical to option 1.
I'm pro Cristobal, I'm just saying the BOT needs to take odd the "Miami guy" beer goggles and consider how to build an elite staff if Mario says no instead of defaulting to Chud.
That's the biggest reason I want Mario..he has ALLLL the leverage and will demand commitments or stay happy where he's at.Mario is going to want a long contract with a Ronaldo like buyout. I wont be mad with Mario but he wouldnt be my first choice.
Depending on if you believe "hood rumors" then there is more to this story then meets the eye. Just depends on what you believe.
Hopefully, the wheels are turning. I will believe it when I see it. I agree, crazy circumstances need to happen, but I have hope and quarter in my pocket.I don’t see it that way.
Those types of emotional arguments used to persuade will not work.
The only way he comes is if his perception is that his situation at Oregon will be worse if he stays, but better at Miami. How likely is that?
What is the probability that someone will come to that logical conclusion at the end of the season?
It would take a near improbable set of circumstances for someone to think that Miami is a better job than Oregon at the end of this season. Even for a cane alum and someone that loves the canes.
He'll take the call because he still loves his alma mater. But his decision will be strictly business. So where does he go after Oregon? It would be the safe choice. We also need a competent risk taker. Howard took the job when nobody else would. Jimmy had no reason to go to Miami but he did as well. Why would Butch take the Miami job? He was a successful DC for Dallas and on track to be an NFL head coach.
We also need a guy who will take the risk. To do so you need an ego. Not hubris but an ego. I do agree with Zo's comment. We need a guy whose personality is better than Miami's.
It is less of a comment on Mario vs. Manny and more of a comment about you. There are no perfect coaches for us. I will, however, take the guy who has actually beaten good teams instead of the guy that loses 50% of his games to bad ones. And at least own your stupidity instead of saying it was a joke. Nonsense and worthless.What does Mario struggling to beat **** teams week in and week out have to do with Manny and an offseason joke?
He is a lot like Butch in that regard, but the Stanford game was a total **** show and his OC was rushed to the hospital pregame in the locker room. Hard to plan around and overcome that situation.And yet he keeps winning the league…he wouldn’t do that here
I don't think Herman failed at Texas.Herman would cost nothing and already failed at a school where he can literally write the checks himself in a recruiting hot bed with a massive booster base.
Imo the move can pay for itself if we can at least win the coastal for the next 4 years. If we can make the playoffs in 3 the money would be worth it. I’m not talking about worth it for us as fans but also worth it from a returns stand point. At the very least we need a face that walks in to schools in south Florida that know who he is and trust what he can do and where he’s been. If Mario was here now there would be no question on who’s committing. So even if he doesn’t bring us a championship he’s gonna leave the cupboard more stacked then what it is now.
Recruiting is the lifeblood and dudes like chud or anyone without a morality record that the school doesn’t want can’t walk into any high school in sofla and say hey come with me we’re gonna do this right finally.
O’Brien ain’t leaving Bama for this.
Neither is fickle.
Chrisobal carries a lot of weight down here. And I’ll take my chances with a dude that can land a few 5 stars over some guy that can coach up a 3 star.
So basically we will go all in on him, but the chance of him actually coming here is slim to none based on what he has going on there, the mess that this place is and knowing he can get whatever he needs to be successful at Oregon?
I don’t want to believe it but it makes sense. At the end of the day I want Mario but agree it’s going to be a tough pull. I’ll leave a sliver of
Hope in my mind that the wife really wants to get back here or he wants his kids here too or maybe that he just wants to be the guy that resurrects the U. A sliver of hope but hope nonetheless.
Not sure if you know where you are at buddy but this is a message board. (well you have over 20k posts so maybe you do) LOL. WTF do you think we do on here all day? This is where we talk about stuff that maybe, could, probably wont, maybe will or definitely will happen. If we all knew what was going to really happen or could influence what could happen, we wouldnt be on here. That said, ill take that 9% chance. That means we have a chance. LOL.No you’re not really making a case for Mario to come to Miami.
You’re making a case for deluding yourself in the thinking there’s some decent probability chance we can land him. That’s the only case that’s being made here.
That actual case needs to be made by people that are trying to influence him.
This thread doesn’t influence anybody, other than deluding people here into thinking we have a better than 50% shot of getting him.
I would say the odds start somewhere south of 10%.
I don’t have a problem with that comment. But if he wasn’t a failure then Mario isn’t either at Oregon and I would prefer him over Hemran.I don't think Herman failed at Texas.
Some of the smartest coaches out there make decisions off emotions and not their brains. (I.E, Jimmy going to the Dolphins, Urban going to the Jags, Bill Parcells going to the Cowboys, etc)I believe Mario is an extremely smart dude that won’t let emotions dictate where he’s going to coach.
It is less of a comment on Mario vs. Manny and more of a comment about you. There are no perfect coaches for us. I will, however, take the guy who has actually beaten good teams instead of the guy that loses 50% of his games to bad ones. And at least own your stupidity instead of saying it was a joke. Nonsense and worthless.
Not sure if you know where you are at buddy but this is a message board. (well you have over 20k posts so maybe you do) LOL. WTF do you think we do on here all day? This is where we talk about stuff that maybe, could, probably wont, maybe will or definitely will happen. If we all knew what was going to really happen or could influence what could happen, we wouldnt be on here. That said, ill take that 9% chance. That means we have a chance. LOL.
100% correct. From his updated contract signed last year:His buyout drops to 6.5 in January. That’s not an issue. His salary will likely be in the 6-6.5 million range. Money isn’t what he’ll be worrying about, he’ll need Miami
to prove they’re taking football serious and have a plan.
Who's calling Mario a failure at Oregon?I don’t have a problem with that comment. But if he wasn’t a failure then Mario isn’t either at Oregon and I would prefer him over Hemran.
Herman also got a handsome buy out. I would bring him in as an offensive analyst/consultant. He can spend those millions well down here.
We may not even get to the point of going all in for him.
As a sign respect for his alma mater he may let us know very soon that he’s absolutely not interested, so we don’t waste the time
I don't think Herman failed at Texas.