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What X's and O's do you want to talk about that hasn't been as equally talked about ad nauseum as everything else you are complaining about?

Our defensive scheme that hasn't changed in 4 years? Our offense which sets a record for being the slowest offense since the 20's? 2 gapping vs. 1 gapping? Dropping our DL into zones?

What fire golden/admin suck topic hasnt been discussed ad nauseum.

Wouldn't it make sense to talk about the biggest issue with the program?

I understand that and thats fine and dandy. Nobody is say all is well. Nobody is saying we should be happy. Nobody is saying golden and the admin is exempt from our wrath. All uknowwhat and others are saying is 90% of the threads turn into golden sucks/fire golden.

That is because he is the biggest issue with the program. Do you blame them for focusing on him?
Not at all. It just doesnt have to take over every thread. I want golden gone just as bad as you. But i also like talking football and letting all the politcs take care of themselves.
 
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I agree with guys like PlantCity - we need more football talk on this board.

I'm just an uneducated mope who doesn't understand the game and complains simply for the sake of complaining.

Can someone who understands X's and O's explain to me what is happening here on 3rd and short?

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Remember guys, football talk only.
Get a clue. Bringing up how clueless our coaches are for being in that formation is totally different then a thread about yearby taking time off turning into yearbys gone, its als fault, al ran him off.
 
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I agree with guys like PlantCity - we need more football talk on this board.

I'm just an uneducated mope who doesn't understand the game and complains simply for the sake of complaining.

Can someone who understands X's and O's explain to me what is happening here on 3rd and short?

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Remember guys, football talk only.


you truly do not understand x's and o's. The 5 guys in the end zone are getting running starts. Think like a sprinter....how much better would he be if he could cross the start line at full speed......

you're welcome
 
What fire golden/admin suck topic hasnt been discussed ad nauseum.

Wouldn't it make sense to talk about the biggest issue with the program?

I understand that and thats fine and dandy. Nobody is say all is well. Nobody is saying we should be happy. Nobody is saying golden and the admin is exempt from our wrath. All uknowwhat and others are saying is 90% of the threads turn into golden sucks/fire golden.

That is because he is the biggest issue with the program. Do you blame them for focusing on him?
Not at all. It just doesnt have to take over every thread

Like I said, he is the biggest issue. Anything he does, based on his record, has been tainted with failure. Breaking down said failure still leaves you with failure.
 
Who said anything about being happy? All a lot of us want to do is talk football without everything turning into a bitcfest. I dont get why thats a difficult concept.

Perhaps wait until the football season starts then. This is the same thing every single offseason.
I see. You can tell the ones that feel guilty. They swarmed to this thread like they do every other thread. Once again if the shoe fits, wear it.

I'm not sure what that means. If you're implying I feel any level of guilt, you're either new, don't know me or both. The only emotions I feel in association to the Canes program and things dealing with it (like a forum to express those feelings) these days are deep disappointment and waning anger.

The offer to stick around till we see actual football games remains.
 
Who said anything about being happy? All a lot of us want to do is talk football without everything turning into a bitcfest. I dont get why thats a difficult concept.

Perhaps wait until the football season starts then. This is the same thing every single offseason.
I see. You can tell the ones that feel guilty. They swarmed to this thread like they do every other thread. Once again if the shoe fits, wear it.

I'm not sure what that means. If you're implying I feel any level of guilt, you're either new, don't know me or both. The only emotions I feel in association to the Canes program and things dealing with it (like a forum to express those feelings) these days are deep disappointment and waning anger.

The offer to stick around till we see actual football games remains.

I wasnt talking about u.
 
Dont give me the crap. I know what we have been through. But once again, what does that have to do with football fans wanting to talk football. So, because we have been down, we should just resort to crying all day every day?

I just did talk football. I just gave you his tenure at Miami. What more is there to talk about?

Do you want to talk about ice cream trucks? How about cheesecake pictures? How about having "fun"?

This is what you don't get for some reason. We're about to go into season #5 with Al as the HC, are you expecting anything different? What more is there to say?

Who is going to take Gus's carries? Does it matter?
Gtfo. You know what we mean by talk football. But then again, most ppl on here dont know x and o's. Just armchair quarterbacks that jump to conclusions without really knowing a dam thing.
What X's and O's do you want to talk about that hasn't been as equally talked about ad nauseum as everything else you are complaining about?

Our defensive scheme that hasn't changed in 4 years? Our offense which sets a record for being the slowest offense since the 20's? 2 gapping vs. 1 gapping? Dropping our DL into zones?

What fire golden/admin suck topic hasnt been discussed ad nauseum.

Don't forget fire Donna. I remember many discussions couple years ago about Xs &Os, schemes and such. Some people here know a lot about that stuff. But when it became clear that Al had no intention to change any of those things, the discussions moved more and more toward solutions. Since Al would make not change, most determined the only solution was to fire Al and as many as those who had anything to do with the last 10 or so years. Makes sense. You can only say, "dang, profits are down again. I wonder why." Eventually you have to start firing the leaders.
 
Lulz at OP's attention whoredness.

Please don't go OP, please don't go! I'll start sucking Golden's ****, I promise!
 
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I just did talk football. I just gave you his tenure at Miami. What more is there to talk about?

Do you want to talk about ice cream trucks? How about cheesecake pictures? How about having "fun"?

This is what you don't get for some reason. We're about to go into season #5 with Al as the HC, are you expecting anything different? What more is there to say?

Who is going to take Gus's carries? Does it matter?
Gtfo. You know what we mean by talk football. But then again, most ppl on here dont know x and o's. Just armchair quarterbacks that jump to conclusions without really knowing a dam thing.
What X's and O's do you want to talk about that hasn't been as equally talked about ad nauseum as everything else you are complaining about?

Our defensive scheme that hasn't changed in 4 years? Our offense which sets a record for being the slowest offense since the 20's? 2 gapping vs. 1 gapping? Dropping our DL into zones?

What fire golden/admin suck topic hasnt been discussed ad nauseum.

Don't forget fire Donna. I remember many discussions couple years ago about Xs &Os, schemes and such. Some people here know a lot about that stuff. But when it became clear that Al had no intention to change any of those things, the discussions moved more and more toward solutions. Since Al would make not change, most determined the only solution was to fire Al and as many as those who had anything to do with the last 10 or so years. Makes sense. You can only say, "dang, profits are down again. I wonder why." Eventually you have to start firing the leaders.
Well i guess im a couple years to late. I just want to talk football and get info on the canes and leave all the politics where it be.
 
Who said anything about being happy? All a lot of us want to do is talk football without everything turning into a bitcfest. I dont get why thats a difficult concept.

Perhaps wait until the football season starts then. This is the same thing every single offseason.
I see. You can tell the ones that feel guilty. They swarmed to this thread like they do every other thread. Once again if the shoe fits, wear it.

I'm not sure what that means. If you're implying I feel any level of guilt, you're either new, don't know me or both. The only emotions I feel in association to the Canes program and things dealing with it (like a forum to express those feelings) these days are deep disappointment and waning anger.

The offer to stick around till we see actual football games remains.

I wasnt talking about u.

Just wait it out. If you're too annoyed with the current state, come back in 4 days when we can talk about what's happening on the field. The only people consistently watching what's happening on the practice field are not in the position to divulge too much of that information. That will change when we have games.

The saddest part of this season is that I write an article to start each season. About 750 words in this year, I couldn't bring myself to finish it. I felt like I was repeating myself. I've been following this program since I'm 5 years old. Like, memorizing player names and deeply following every aspect. I have never felt so numb going into a season. And, I won't delude myself into positivity. If Golden turns everything around and we win 10-11 games and, more importantly, some meaningful wins, GREAT. There just isn't any evidence, at all, that will occur. To the contrary, there's a pile of evidence things will stay more or less as we've seen them.
 
Who said anything about being happy? All a lot of us want to do is talk football without everything turning into a bitcfest. I dont get why thats a difficult concept.

Perhaps wait until the football season starts then. This is the same thing every single offseason.

you are right, to a point. the incessant obsessive threads about golden sucking and the derails to express how golden sucks this offseason is without parallel. yes, a lot of what has transpired this offseason (and the last 5 years) merits disgrace and outrage, but every goddam thread reverts to golden this or that. you started a thread a few weeks back about what you would like to see more of with respect to our offensive formation https://www.canesinsight.com/thread/id-offense/88960.

we need more of this and less of golden complaining.
 
Perhaps wait until the football season starts then. This is the same thing every single offseason.
I see. You can tell the ones that feel guilty. They swarmed to this thread like they do every other thread. Once again if the shoe fits, wear it.

I'm not sure what that means. If you're implying I feel any level of guilt, you're either new, don't know me or both. The only emotions I feel in association to the Canes program and things dealing with it (like a forum to express those feelings) these days are deep disappointment and waning anger.

The offer to stick around till we see actual football games remains.

I wasnt talking about u.

Just wait it out. If you're too annoyed with the current state, come back in 4 days when we can talk about what's happening on the field. The only people consistently watching what's happening on the practice field are not in the position to divulge too much of that information. That will change when we have games.

The saddest part of this season is that I write an article to start each season. About 750 words in this year, I couldn't bring myself to finish it. I felt like I was repeating myself. I've been following this program since I'm 5 years old. Like, memorizing player names and deeply following every aspect. I have never felt so numb going into a season. And, I won't delude myself into positivity. If Golden turns everything around and we win 10-11 games and, more importantly, some meaningful wins, GREAT. There just isn't any evidence, at all, that will occur. To the contrary, there's a pile of evidence things will stay more or less as we've seen them.
Im right there with you. If we couldn't get it done with the talent we had last year then.......

I know with things like the work basically turning into a newspaper piece instead of something like inside access, it has killed alot of the football talk. The good thing is football starts tomorrow, and we play Saturday so as you said, then we can start talking about whats happening on the field, good or bad
 
The fact of the matter is that the administration assured this fecal show when it retained Folden after last season. Had the administration acted in manner consistent with a desire to put a winning product on the field, these boards wouldn't look like this.
 
What needs to be said, we have a coach who has accomplished the following:

1. 16-16 in the ACC
2. 0-4 against FSU
3. 0 Bowl Wins
4. 0 ACCCG Appearances
5. 11 Losses in his last 19 Games
6. 28-22 Record Overall (with wins against the following Bethune Cookman x 2, Savannah State, FAMU, FAU and Arkansas State)
7. Losing Record in 2014 (4 years into his tenure)

He just needs one more year.
Dont give me the crap. I know what we have been through. But once again, what does that have to do with football fans wanting to talk football. So, because we have been down, we should just resort to crying all day every day?

I just did talk football. I just gave you his tenure at Miami. What more is there to talk about?

Do you want to talk about ice cream trucks? How about cheesecake pictures? How about having "fun"?

This is what you don't get for some reason. We're about to go into season #5 with Al as the HC, are you expecting anything different? What more is there to say?

Who is going to take Gus's carries? Does it matter?
Gtfo. You know what we mean by talk football. But then again, most ppl on here dont know x and o's. Just armchair quarterbacks that jump to conclusions without really knowing a dam thing.

This thread is a perfect example of whats wrong with this site. A well respected poster says he is taking a hiatus and people still come in here to talk crap. Now if it was franchise or some other smuck who wines in every post, i guarantee you, you would have nothing to say
So talk football. We just had a thread not long ago about defensive alignments and it was pretty good. Or start a thread and call it the official football talk thread. Seems to mr you're *****ing just to *****. I will even start the thread for you

See, this is not a "football" site; it is a CANE FOOTBALL site. There is a difference. Cane football is winning NCs and sometimes being cheat out of them, and occasionally actually getting bet out of one, and in between, wining a lot of games by embarrassing scores and scaring the living crap out of everyone. Since we have not have any football like that for a long, long time we hunt for the reasons and talk about that. We really don't care about anyone "need" to talk normal football like little girls gossiping. As long as it is a Cane site, you have to live with fans who have no use for the good old day of PRE-Howard. Those days sucked. I remember going to game just to watch the Stork sack people. As much as I love Ted, that sucked. Watching JJ's team destroy PROGRAMS was much more fun. It is not about the Xs and Os or the Jimmies and the Joes, it is about the Ws and the Ls, period.
 
Who said anything about being happy? All a lot of us want to do is talk football without everything turning into a bitcfest. I dont get why thats a difficult concept.

Perhaps wait until the football season starts then. This is the same thing every single offseason.

you are right, to a point. the incessant obsessive threads about golden sucking and the derails to express how golden sucks this offseason is without parallel. yes, a lot of what has transpired this offseason (and the last 5 years) merits disgrace and outrage, but every goddam thread reverts to golden this or that. you started a thread a few weeks back about what you would like to see more of with respect to our offensive formation https://www.canesinsight.com/thread/id-offense/88960.

we need more of this and less of golden complaining.


If one of the hardcore X's & O's guys is burnt out, that should tell you something.
 
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Who said anything about being happy? All a lot of us want to do is talk football without everything turning into a bitcfest. I dont get why thats a difficult concept.

Perhaps wait until the football season starts then. This is the same thing every single offseason.

you are right, to a point. the incessant obsessive threads about golden sucking and the derails to express how golden sucks this offseason is without parallel. yes, a lot of what has transpired this offseason (and the last 5 years) merits disgrace and outrage, but every goddam thread reverts to golden this or that. you started a thread a few weeks back about what you would like to see more of with respect to our offensive formation https://www.canesinsight.com/thread/id-offense/88960.

we need more of this and less of golden complaining.


If one of the hardcore X's & O's guys is burnt out, that should tell you something.
People with low IQs struggle with making inferences.
 
I hope Shaq is tougher than his dad.

You think he doesn't read this site?

You think recruits don't read this and other Canes' sites?

I used to think that fans had no affect on games except on game day. The Orange Bowl used to literally shudder, and you could see opposing players looking around the stands with worry on their faces.

Now, with the internet and anonymity, a lot of bile gets spewed which recruits and players read. Even though 99% of the vomit is opinion and not fact, to an impressionable mind an impact is made.

You have to really love this coaching staff and the program to want to play for this joke of a fanbase.
 
I hope Shaq is tougher than his dad.

You think he doesn't read this site?

You think recruits don't read this and other Canes' sites?

I used to think that fans had no affect on games except on game day. The Orange Bowl used to literally shudder, and you could see opposing players looking around the stands with worry on their faces.

Now, with the internet and anonymity, a lot of bile gets spewed which recruits and players read. Even though 99% of the vomit is opinion and not fact, to an impressionable mind an impact is made.

You have to really love this coaching staff and the program to want to play for this joke of a fanbase.


Didn't you predict an undefeated season last year?
 
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