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How have we never won the ACC?

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It’s simple, low budget hires at HC for 25 years, lack of university support for the athletics and for some reason we can’t ever be great on both sides of the ball. 2024 offense with 2017 defense would compete for a natty.
 
I imagine our numbers are high due to the 2000-2005 teams

Regardless, the reasons why have we not won the ACC:

- Bad Coaching & Evaluation: Often times we’d get the offensive hires right but the defense would be a mess or vice versa. A lot the administration not willing to spend money until recently

- Bad Culture: the 80s, 90s and early 2000s culture of work ethic and practice harder than you play and competition went away. High School kids looked at the U as a way to get quickly get to the league and often times they didn’t realize that the reason why Miami had so much NFL talent was because they worked to be the best while they were in college

- Consistently Losing 5 Star Recruiting Battles for Generational Talents (Patrick Peterson, Dalvin Cook, Amari Cooper, Pat Surtain, Sony Michel, Jeremiah Smith, Jerry Jeudy, Ridley, Teddy Bridgewater, etc.). Part of this is due to the fact that with technology and media every big time school nowadays has awareness and visibility into the top SoFla talents. Gone are the days of 4 or 5 stars flying under the radar
 
DMoney said:
That's the big question. Don't know how Pick 6 compiled the data for the tweet. I just asked them.

I know we still had a ton of picks during the ACC era. Less first rounders but a lot of volume relative to the league. The big drop off happened during the Richt classes.
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I think we joined the ACC in 05 so do 05 to now. At the end of the day it's because we had shalala who didn't want to invest in football and it reflected. All of our coaches other than Mark richt who was on his last legs were coaches who shouldn't have been head coaches at Miami. Miami should never have a first time head coach imo.
 
@Rellyrell created an amazing thread on this subject a few weeks ago. I encourage everyone to read it if they haven’t already.

He pretty much broke down that we have had enough talent to compete and win the ACC multiple times. Not every year, but majority of years we should have been at least competing for it.

Now, some other source posts that we have had plenty of talent, albeit some skewed numbers due to incorrect years, and everyone is acting all surprised.
 
CaneinBroward said:
Now run it from 2003 to now.
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Rellyrell

Thread 'Myth Busters: Lack of NFL Talent'

This along w/ other future post are not meant to offend; but, for the next few months I will be resurrecting my series on “Myth Busters” surrounding various narratives used to justify/excuse the mediocrity surrounding The University of Miami circa 2004.

A little something about me: I HATE excuses, b/c
-they attempt to lessen the blame or seek to defend/justify
-(If you pledge any African-American Greek organization): Excuses are tools of incompetence used to build bridges to nowhere and monuments of nothingness.

Even though some excuses may have merit, more often than not it pacifies a...
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Well below average coaching is the primary reason. Contributing in the pre huge nil days was um getting players who were like 3.5* guys who were billed as 4*. Those guys thought they were better than they are and never developed much and very few had nfl careers. The lower rated Duke kids and their coaches too often ate the lunch of more talented in paper UM
 
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jrock2332 said:
I think we joined the ACC in 05 so do 05 to now. At the end of the day it's because we had shalala who didn't want to invest in football and it reflected. All of our coaches other than Mark richt who was on his last legs were coaches who shouldn't have been head coaches at Miami. Miami should never have a first time head coach imo.
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We joined in 2004, but you’re spot on with the rest. I think it’s a huge mistake for a top program to ever hire a first-time head coach. Look at Oklahoma struggling now for another example.
 
****, we've only made ONE ACCCG appearance in 20+ years! Hard to win when you don't even make to the CG
 
It’s not about championships and trophy’s. It’s about manufacturing millionaires and getting them ready for the next level, raising ticket prices and selling merch.
 
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I don’t want to win the Acc championship until we prove we can stay there @jenurs
 
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