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Empirical Cane said:
Are you saying you shouldn't do that?

You need to check your priorities in life.
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Shouldn't stick your finger in some Chicks ***??....or rub your eye immediately after??...and as far as checking my priorities in life...Get you a woman who looks like mine, then holler back....
 
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k9cane said:
My take, we already know we have a finished product with Rosier, with Perry there is the hope/assumption that there is a higher ceiling and the expectation of him living up to a much higher recruiting ranking coming in. So the perception that he's a better player(eventually) and plus, we've all seen enough of Rosier.

There's an old saying in sports - if you're going to be bad or struggle, it's better to be young and go with upside

I think that's the case here

Now, to your point, yeah, both QB's have been bad. And this archaic system - which some believe is only the 1995 Dallas Cowboys offensive line away from being functional - doesn't help matters. Its why I call his offense 'the BetaMax', I think it's dated and much too reliant on 50-50 balls downfield. And yeah, the QB coaching leaves a TON to be desired(although they will be well conditioned with all the gassers they are made to do during practice)

Yeah, this side of the ball is broken.

But as it relates to Malik and Rosier it's like choosing between gonorrhea and syphilis.

Personally, I had had it with Rosier to a point that I wanted Perry( in part because next year we have a tough opener vs UF and I dont want a raw rookie taking snaps that game) no matter what. I saw no future or present with 12. Well, after the UVA meltdown and some of the stuff that Ive been told about Perry( and Chise I recall telling you about them a couple of years ago) and some of the social media postings, well, now I want Jarren Williams to start getting warmed up in the bullpen.

Our QB's are what they are, but I really think the bigger picture is the guy running it(something I said b4 the last loss).
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My point is a fairly simple one. If Rick is garbage, as most fans have decided after Perry flamed out, then don’t you also think Malik would be better with a better OC? Or does that only apply to Perry? You say we know what we have with Malik, but we only know Malik with Rick as the OC.

And, finally, if Rick is the disaster everyone thinks he is as an OC, and Junior is so incompetent, then why should we think anything will change no matter who goes in at QB?
 
N'kosi Perry = Jeff George. All the arm talent in the world, none of the intangibles needed to be a winner.
 
The Franchise said:
And, finally, if Rick is the disaster everyone thinks he is as an OC, and Junior is so incompetent, then why should we think anything will change no matter who goes in at QB?
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Because this......Brad Kaaya 2016 last 5 games when the OL gelled....

32-47 68% 287 yds 2TD 1 INT
14-29 48.3% 228 yds 2 TD 1 INT
22-38 58% 286 yds
22-35 68% 316 3 TD
24-34 71% 282 4 TD

And also hope. LOL
 
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To be fair, I can't remember a time since Richt has been here when there haven't been complaints about his offense. It's always been questioned, even when Kaaya was here.

I think the reason the criticism became so loud when Perry was benched was bc it rang as incredibly unfair and short sighted in terms of the program's future. Rosier has had absolutely putrid quarters and halves and Richt rode with him all game long. Perry stinks it up EARLY one game and he gets snatched? And not only does he get snatched, he doesn't even get a chance to get back in despite Rosier doing absolutely nothing.

Perry at least throws TD's. He's thrown 2 more INT's than Rosier on roughly the same amount of attempts, but double the TD's. Rosier is who he is.

Regardless of who comes in -- including Jarren Williams -- Richt's offense, or more specifically his playcalling, has got to improve. It's taken a tremendous step back this season.
 
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The Franchise said:
..then don’t you also think Malik would be better with a better OC? Or does that only apply to Perry?...
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The world's best OC isn't going to turn Malik into the QB Miami needs. He's just a 4 cylinder motor running in an 8 cylinder race.

As for Perry, the overall QB development program is to blame. He either doesn't get it or can't and Weldon/Williams haven't been brought along as replacements.
 
407cane said:
The Rosier hate on here is ridiculous. He's a 3 star player that has no business ever taking a snap here. He beat out Allison, Perry, scared off kaaya in his senior year, Weldon, sherrifs, and Williams
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Uhh Malik did not scare off Kaaya. If Kaaya had stayed, Malik’s first year as a starter would have been this year. Plain and simple. I don’t think Kaaya was near mobile enough for Richt’s play style, but he could throw. I think he left early because our O-line was trash, and didn’t want to get injured his senior (he was taking some hits)... I think he also left because he had an over-inflated sense of his own ability.

Malik as a possible usurper, def was not an issue.
 
Canesfan1899 said:
It seems like Perry also tries to at least read the defense, may take him too long which is why he's been sacked some, Rosier just locks on to his first read and doesn't seem to come off that guy.

I would really like to see Williams get some real reps, we need to see what we have at the position moving forward. The grad transfer market may be where we find a guy to at least provide serviceable QB play.
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To me Rosier has always appeared to pre determine almost everything. His choice to run or pass, his throws. Everything looks like a guess to me.
 
The Franchise said:
So his system works with Malik because Malik was deemed garbage by recruiting sites, but his system doesn’t work with Perry because Perry was a 4 star? Hmmm. Still not seeing how that argument makes any sense at all.
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The only thing I can say is that Rick seemingly did more to help Malik in the QB run game than he did with Perry in the pass game. What it looks like from the cheap seats is that our offense is being called as if both have equal skillsets, which I think has proved not to be the case. I see no adjustments to take advantage of Perry's anticipation and accuracy in the short to intermediate passing game, e.g. crossing routes. Also, it's being called as if both read defenses equally well which is not the case. If Greentree has proven Perry struggles reading zone, there are ways OCs call games to get defenses to tip their coverages. Lining up identically game to game and not challenging defenses helps neither QB, and greatly benefits the defense. I'll also say that people read too much into the completion percentages, it's pretty clear that Rick isn't too concerned about it because our reliance on vertical routes put good, accurate and experienced passers in lower percentage situations.
 
JHallCanes said:
To me Rosier has always appeared to pre determine almost everything. His choice to run or pass, his throws. Everything looks like a guess to me.
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And he's a 5th year senior. Perry at least looked like he was scanning the field. Those 2 ints were atrocious though.
 
Dingaan1828 said:
@Franchise, I think it's simply denial. Many here had high hopes for Perry. Apparently, some invested too much in the belief that Perry was the answer at QB. Well, the evidence on and off the field have not supported those beliefs. For those people, it's easier to shift the blame to someone else than to admit they were wrong about Perry.

No one thought Rosier was the answer.
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Ding ding ding!
 
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The Franchise said:
Ding ding ding!
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Every guy we have recruited since Dorsey was going to be the guy to bring us back, we are all desperate to have a QB that can play big in big games and complete 60-65% of his passes. Many of us thought it was Perry and now it's Williams is going to be the guy.
 
Canesfan1899 said:
And he's a 5th year senior. Perry at least looked like he was scanning the field. Those 2 ints were atrocious though.
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I think as a freshman we all accept he’s going to make some woeful mistakes. You balance that with some of the great throws he makes and you just deal with it
 
Dingaan1828 said:
@Franchise, I think it's simply denial. Many here had high hopes for Perry. Apparently, some invested too much in the belief that Perry was the answer at QB. Well, the evidence on and off the field have not supported those beliefs. For those people, it's easier to shift the blame to someone else than to admit they were wrong about Perry.

No one thought Rosier was the answer.
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Facts and I was A kosi hive guy but it is what it is
 
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