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252cane said:
Completion percentage and accuracy have some correlation but its not the same. Rosier can't hit his targets accurately. You see guys spinning around and having to stretch half way across the field to catch his passes.
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...which has a h-UUU-ge impact on YAC (yards after catch)
 
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The Franchise said:
Hoping to get some legit discussion going. It seems like Rick and son really started getting destroyed by us for our offensive failures after Perry took over. Fans are almost exclusively claiming that Perry’s struggles are a result of Rick’s busted offense, lousy play calling, and his son’s incompetence.

Prior to Perry taking over, most fans just talked about how much Malik sucked and how he was killing the offense almost singlehandedly. Malik has played in that same busted offense and failed too.

Why don’t the fans give Malik the same benefit of the doubt that they give Perry? If Rick is killing Perry with his busted offense and play calling, then why does everyone just say Malik sucks and not give him the same explanation for failure that they give Perry?
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In the 4th quarter of Thursday night's game against UVA Malik had a drive that went completion for a first down followed by completion for a first down. My immediate thought after that was "Where the **** has that been all night?"

The play that followed, a fluttering wounded duck that's picked off and returned into Virginia territory, is why I can't give Rosier the benefit of the doubt anymore.

The guy cannot consistenlty make even the most basic of throws, to the point that every time he drops back to pass I hope for something good to happen but expect something bad.

Now just imagine what it's like to call plays for a guy like that.

Not letting CMR off the hook. At times his calls have been an abomination. But the majority of Rosier's issues fall on Rosier imo.
 
The Franchise said:
So because Malik has had the burden of playing under the Ricks for longer than Perry that means it should be more Malik’s fault when he plays and the offense sucks? That is devoid of logic and reason.

If the coach and his system suck then why does having more time in the ****** system under the ****** coach then exculpate the ****** coach from blame and shift it to the player?



What is the magical amount of time under the ****** coach in the ****** system where the blame shifts to the player? Why should spending more time under a ****** coach in a ****** system relieve the coach of blame?
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Where did I say it’s Malik’s Fault? I thought I made it clear it’s MRs fault. Just like it’s not Malik’s fault he’s on the team in a scholarship capacity.
 
@Franchise, I think it's simply denial. Many here had high hopes for Perry. Apparently, some invested too much in the belief that Perry was the answer at QB. Well, the evidence on and off the field have not supported those beliefs. For those people, it's easier to shift the blame to someone else than to admit they were wrong about Perry.

No one thought Rosier was the answer.
 
The Franchise said:
Hoping to get some legit discussion going. It seems like Rick and son really started getting destroyed by us for our offensive failures after Perry took over. Fans are almost exclusively claiming that Perry’s struggles are a result of Rick’s busted offense, lousy play calling, and his son’s incompetence.

Prior to Perry taking over, most fans just talked about how much Malik sucked and how he was killing the offense almost singlehandedly. Malik has played in that same busted offense and failed too.

Why don’t the fans give Malik the same benefit of the doubt that they give Perry? If Rick is killing Perry with his busted offense and play calling, then why does everyone just say Malik sucks and not give him the same explanation for failure that they give Perry?
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When it was Malik, he was the easiest variable to blame. When a 4* highly recruited QB struggles as well, particularly with what we saw from the offense as a whole during the UVA game, it becomes obvious that the issue is deeper than just one player.

That said, it is obvious that Malik is very limited. Perry has far more upside.
 
It’s all of the above, they both suck and the offense is behind the times. If Tua was our Qb the offense would look a **** of a lot better. If Leach was coaching these Qbs the offense would look a **** of a lot better, these things are not mutually exclusive.
 
I think Perry looked confused by UVA's defense. He might have done better if he spent more time studying the offense and watching film. I do think bringing some motion in, to help him identify what the defense is doing would help.
 
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Our offense has sucked for a while. However, we’ve looked way worse with Perry at QB.

20 and 10 point deficits in back to back games with your QB doing absolutely nothing to help.

Yes, play calling is an issue, but if you look at this objectively it’s hard not to see that our offense took a serious dip when Kosi’s playing time increased.
 
Heres the dilemma of course Perry is more talented than rosier. But what good is that for us if richt is still going to go in a shell and call conservative plays with him in there? The last 3 games have been the most conservative in his tenure at Miami.

At least with rosier he would have the confidence of running a more wide open offense.
Edit: maybe not wide open but more open than what they are doing with Perry
 
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Malik is limited and Richt has had a year to realize Perry lacks the focus to be a starter.

The question then becomes why isn’t Williams ready by now and more pressing why aren’t we recruiting a QB if your QB room is in disarray?

All of this is a coaching issue.
 
Good topic, good dialogue.

It's all Richt's fault IMO. Rosier and Perry both have played like **** under Richt. Yes, Perry has more natural talent, but he's just not good. Rosier is just bad and actually has overachieved.
 
brock said:
Heres the dilemma of course Perry is more talented than rosier. But what good is that for us if richt is still going to go in a shell and call conservative plays with him in there? The last 3 games have been the most conservative in his tenure at Miami.

At least with rosier he would have the confidence of running a more wide open offense.
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Rosier is late on every throw, misses reads and can’t throw between the hashes because he’s either late or can’t read coverage and throws picks.

We literally abandoned the RPO because he can’t throw a slant.

But the offense is wide open with him????
 
QB development program is in shambles. Leadership decisions re: QB are boderline teenager-ish.

Failure w/ Malik either: 1) didnt develop him in a manner he could respond to; 2) thought he was developing despite below avg comp %/decision making and then forced to play him because other slingers not ready

Failure w/ Perry/Weldon/Williams either: 1) missed on talent eval and brought in athlete "who isnt what we thought he was"; 2) talent eval was spot on but blew up in their faces, "we thought we could work with/change him and we were wrong", 3) didnt develop him in a manner he could respond to; 4) thought he was developing despite below avg comp %/decision making and then forced to play him because other slingers not ready

Richt's leadership decision failures are also a very real concern. You (I'm lecturing him now) have an underperforming asset (Rosier) who doesn't exactly have the best track record with you personally. The TEAM wins some very close games (some they shouldn't have) and you get caught in the run of wins.

You stick to your guns 4 straight losses with Rosier--all the same theme--poor decision making combined with even poorer comp % and awful YAC throws. By LSU, glaring is the lack of QB development with Perry/Weldon/Williams. How could you possibly have not had one of those three ready to go if Rosier's EXPECTED shortcomings came to fore during the beat down in Big D?

Inexcusable.

But wait, it gets worse.

You then bench, mercifully, Rosier and give next man up his opportunity. Perry shows flashes of greatness and mediocrity that culminates in UVA decision. You not only do not give Perry (younger) the same length of leash you gave Rosier, you GO BACK to the same asset that is EXPECTED to underperform.

The second you benched Rosier, you had an OBLIGATION to ride Weldon (suspension notwithstanding) or Williams as the #2. If you wouldn't, it a abysmal PERSONAL failure not on the QBs, but you as HC. If you couldn't, then its an abysmal failure on the QB development program that includes Jr and YOURSELF.

YOU are paid $4M to make PROFESSIONAL and CORRECT decisions.

YOU are doing neither at the moment, in what, Yr 16 as a HC?
 
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brock said:
Heres the dilemma of course Perry is more talented than rosier. But what good is that for us if richt is still going to go in a shell and call conservative plays with him in there? The last 3 games have been the most conservative in his tenure at Miami.

At least with rosier he would have the confidence of running a more wide open offense.
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And the Problem is Rosier's inaccuracies within that,,,, but I guess we have to take the good with the bad and hope..

If Perry had Rosier's maturity (on and off) he'd be starting... ..

I pray that Jarren is really studying his *** off so next year he can come in and solidify the position .. If Perry doesn't see the light..

JC
 
We the Boss said:
Rosier is late on every throw, misses reads and can’t throw between the hashes because he’s either late or can’t read coverage and throws picks.

We literally abandoned the RPO because he can’t throw a slant.

But the offense is wide open with him????
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More than the plays they were running for Perry in the unc, FSU , and his time vs uva
 
JerseyCanes said:
And the Problem is Rosier's inaccuracies within that,,,, but I guess we have to take the good with the bad and hope..

If Perry had Rosier's maturity (on and off) he'd be starting... ..

I pray that Jarren is really studying his *** off so next year he can come in and solidify the position .. If Perry doesn't see the light..

JC
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I think Jarren will take the reigns next year
 
We the Boss said:
Malik is limited and Richt has had a year to realize Perry lacks the focus to be a starter.

The question then becomes why isn’t Williams ready by now and more pressing why aren’t we recruiting a QB if your QB room is in disarray?

All of this is a coaching issue.
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Williams isn't ready because he has been relegated to the end of the line. He hasn't gotten the reps in practice at all. It still seems to be Cade ahead of him. I think once we lost MJJ in the 2019 class, it became important to make sure we didn't lose any of the others. CMR has done EVERYTHING possible to get Perry to succeed. Williams has sort of paid the price for that, imo. I saw something yesterday that seemed to indicate he has been getting better reps this week - I think it was one of the local papers in a practice recap.
 
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