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Cribby said:
It should be him but theres a lot of votes, and some of those people are scared of the unknown , change / risk and even worse don’t care about football. Hopefully the Herbie colonoscopy is still lingering in the back of their minds.
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Cribby - aren’t certain decisions made by select few BOTs or they follow the BOTs leading the charge & just fall in line or this seriously like Congress - they all vote & majority wins?
 
DMoney said:
This is backwards.

Miami has had four coaching searches in 15 years. We never went after the current coach HC of a high-end Power 5 program because it was unrealistic. We ended up going after coordinators, G5 coaches or recently fired coaches. The only reason a guy like Mario is realistic here is because of the Miami ties.
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...and the money and new found commitment from the president's office. We're definitely in a different position than we've been in forever.
 
DiegoCane said:
Its not so much bashing Mario as the process that we are taking. Mario would be a safe hire, doesn't bring anything schematically to the table, probably improve recruiting (although now he has to compete with the SEC), very dependent on the OC hire.

Records aren't as important to me as situations. The Pac 12 sucks, Oregon has the most resources and best talent. He's doing fine but not sure why everyone is impressed.
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this is a fair point about resources, but when you say that Oregon has the best talent... who do you think acquired that talent? he has been running circles around the rest of the conference in recruiting his entire time there. this matters. saying that he would "probably" improve recruiting, when we are currently ranked behind SMU, Pitt, Boise State, Iowa and Oregon State is ridiculous. to quote Kirby Smart:

"There's no coach out there that can out-coach recruiting. I don't care who you are. The best coach to ever play the game better be a good recruiter because no coaching is going to out-coach players."
 
Cane6 said:
For the record, being above average and going 9-3 every year would get us a top 15 to top 10 recruiting class every year.

Winning at Miami fixes itself from a recruiting standpoint
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This is what I don't get about the recruiting talk. You win, recruiting will improve here, naturally. I refuse to believe any of the guys most of us want, would recruit worse than Manny, Golden, Richt, Shannon. I don't believe it.
 
DMoney said:
This is backwards.

Miami has had four coaching searches in 15 years. We never went after the current coach HC of a high-end Power 5 program because it was unrealistic. We ended up going after coordinators, G5 coaches or recently fired coaches. The only reason a guy like Mario is realistic here is because of the Miami ties.
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Lane and Aranda are also realistic.
 
dycane said:
You think Bobby Bowden was an Xs and Os coach?
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At one point in his career, **** yes he was. Later on when Miami was down was when he thought he could simply out talent teams. He put it on cruise control and the program fell apart. He didn't take his own advice.

Going into either the 98 or 99 season he made a comment on how he hardly had to coach anymore, because if you have the fastest horses, you're going to win the dog gone race. He would think that after trouncing Miami in 97. He's a great example of thinking talent alone would keep the program going, even with the quote about recruiters.

Thing is, Bobby was a great recruiter, and coach. He just let his coaching slip late in his career.
 
fincane said:
He developed Corral into what he is today. Oh and Lane is on pace to go 10-2 in the toughest division in the sport in his second year. If you think Lane with Mario’s talent advantage would be in 4th quarter games with Cal, Washington and Arizona you’re out of it.
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Lane consistently acquiring that talent advantage is my worry. He's a much better Game Day coach... and funny af.
 
To all the anti Mario people but pro Lane please explain how one can have those strong opinions? I’m not even an anti Lane guy but that dudes resume is the definition of meh. He’s had as many bad moments as good. He’s a great play caller but somebody known not to love recruiting, rubs people the wrong way and thinks he’s smarter than he really is. Does that sound familiar ? That guy just got fired at UF, only difference one is risky as **** off the field. Like I said I’m not anti Lane , I’ve actually defended him a lot. I just don’t get ripping a guy with a better resume and a far better recruiter , but you love this guy.
 
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Artist Formerly Known As said:
Obviously losing your OC right before game time is a big issue, but I think that’s the problem with a CEO coach like Mario. As Ridler had started a thread about, Mario has nothing schematically to hang his hat on despite the fact he’s been an offensive coach his entire careee
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Mario would be more like Mike Vrabel - CEO type (Vrabel specializing in LBs) and Mario with Offensive line. Tough as nails teams, great talent evaluators that get developed.
 
I'm not sure if Mario is the right guy. Honestly.

I know we could do far worse and that if there is a way to ***** things up, we generally find it.

That's why I want Jurich and not somebody like Hernandez. Jurich knows what great looks like. Jurich has first-hand experience on what it takes to build succesful programs. Hernandez only knows what those above him have done. He might deserve a chance but he should learn elsewhere. Not at Miami. Not if we are serious about getting back to the Miami standard.

Bring me somebody like Jurich and I will defer to his selection. If that is ultimately Mario, then let's ride. Same holds true for Lane.
 
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right, Lane comes across as weird

i recall right before the Ole Miss-Alabaga game, an ESPN reporterette was interviewing him and he came across very poorly

He seems erratic

I vote Mario
 
DiegoCane said:
Its not so much bashing Mario as the process that we are taking. Mario would be a safe hire, doesn't bring anything schematically to the table, probably improve recruiting (although now he has to compete with the SEC), very dependent on the OC hire.

Records aren't as important to me as situations. The Pac 12 sucks, Oregon has the most resources and best talent. He's doing fine but not sure why everyone is impressed.
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That's fair and this argument makes sense to me, you brought up his record so I thought that's what you argue about.

Now I agree the safe play isn't necessarily the best play. We should have an actual coaching search and interview candidates. As for scheme, I am not upset if a HC doesn't have a scheme, but i willing to hire great coordinators. Bringing a scheme to the table was Goldens (Denofiro), Richt (not willing to go spread) and Diaz (took over defense again) downfall.. The HC should have a sound philosophy but not married to one scheme I think. Marios Offenses are cause for concern, I agree, but at least he was trying with Moorhead. And just to say it again, I'm not been a Mario homer because all your points are valid, but who are you impressed with that is realistic?
 
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Cribby said:
To all the anti Mario people but pro Lane please explain how one can have those strong opinions. I’m not even an anti Lane guy but that dudes resume is the definition of meh. He’s had as many bad moments as good. He’s a great play caller but somebody known not to love recruiting, rubs people the wrong way and thinks he’s smarter than he really is. Does that sound familiar ? That guy just got fired at UF, only difference one is risky as **** off the field. Like I said I’m not anti Lane , I’ve actually defended him a lot. I just don’t get ripping a guy with a better resume and a far better recruiter , but you love this guy.
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As an OC and recruiting coordinator, Lane had great classes at USC. I believe several number 1 classes.
 
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