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Going price for portal qb (according to matt rhule)

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jed2410 said:
Rhule and other Coaches are just ****ed that they have more work to do to earn their millions.

The price of a coach kept shooting up while the job stayed relatively the same.

Power dynamic is shifting, the landscape rapidly changing, and the work is catching up to the $$$ they earn and they're ****ed about it.
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Partially, but you are going to have college teams in short order fielding rosters with payrolls that are above $100M. That's not sustainable for any but a few schools. If you think competitive balance is horrendous now, wait until those four schools adapt to a model where they don't recruit high schoolers at all, but instead just sign away any top-level talent that develops on all the other teams. And they do it year after year, decade after decade.
 
GojiraCane said:
Sure, but if you a University Miami fan (or a fan of virtually any other team) it basically destroys the sport. There's no continuity. Quality of play declines drastically. Recruiting becomes absolutely meaningless. Why get excited about a Fletcher or Bain because these are all year to year guys. A #1 class is irrelevant. Your team flips its entire roster every year. Everyone becomes Colorado.

It would be the same if all NFL or NBA players were signed to perpetual one year deals. The drafts for either sport would be meaningless. San Antonio could be thrilled about drafting Victor Wembanyama after a bad season in 2023; who cares however when the Los Angeles Lakers sign him one year later leaving the Spurs no better off.
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This is literally exactly how it is now. I’m not sure what you’re saying. What you described is the exact environment we’re living in today. So if you think what you described above will destroy the sport, then it’s destroyed. And I don’t disagree with you at all. Just saying it almost sounds like you’re making your point “if this happens”. It happened.
 
GojiraCane said:
Sure, but if you a University Miami fan (or a fan of virtually any other team) it basically destroys the sport. There's no continuity. Quality of play declines drastically. Recruiting becomes absolutely meaningless. Why get excited about a Fletcher or Bain because these are all year to year guys. A #1 class is irrelevant. Your team flips its entire roster every year. Everyone becomes Colorado.

It would be the same if all NFL or NBA players were signed to perpetual one year deals. The drafts for either sport would be meaningless. San Antonio could be thrilled about drafting Victor Wembanyama after a bad season in 2023; who cares however when the Los Angeles Lakers sign him one year later leaving the Spurs no better off.
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This is damaging the sport in terms of continuity, just as 1 and done has damaged college basketball.
But @OrangeBowlMagic is looking at this specifically from the standpoint of the player, and from that perspective I think you would agree he is correct.

The fan, the school, etc… have different perspectives some times from the player.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
This is literally exactly how it is now. I’m not sure what you’re saying. What you described is the exact environment we’re living in today. So if you think what you described above will destroy the sport, then it’s destroyed. And I don’t disagree with you at all. Just saying it almost sounds like you’re making your point “if this happens”. It happened.
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Not at this level. What I'm concerned about is the potential of Miami losing the upper half of its signing class one year later. Each year, every year.

Or if you're a Texas fan, your excited because you have Arch Manning for 2025 and Quinn Ewers for 2024. How do you feel though when Manning, Ewers, and Murphy all hit the portal simultaneously looking for that payday.

Or a year from now, Miami could be in exactly the same position depth wise if Emory Williams and Judd Anderson decide to test the waters.

This never happened at this level before. What's to stop every player from entering the transfer portal? Nothing. You could have all of them in the portal in a giant market.

There has to be some collective bargaining and controls put upon it. The movement may be great for players, but for the sport itself and its long-term survivability - this won't work. Forty years from now when CFB has contracted to 24 overall teams - this will be one of the turning points.
 
GojiraCane said:
Partially, but you are going to have college teams in short order fielding rosters with payrolls that are above $100M. That's not sustainable for any but a few schools. If you think competitive balance is horrendous now, wait until those four schools adapt to a model where they don't recruit high schoolers at all, but instead just sign away any top-level talent that develops on all the other teams. And they do it year after year, decade after decade.
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Yeap.
The European soccer model where everyone develops players so they can sell to the ManCity, BayernMunich, PSG, and Chelsea's. Only the non-elite teams don't get paid for their work.
This current landscape is not good for UM football.
 
GojiraCane said:
Not at this level. What I'm concerned about is the potential of Miami losing the upper half of its signing class one year later. Each year, every year.

Or if you're a Texas fan, your excited because you have Arch Manning for 2025 and Quinn Ewers for 2024. How do you feel though when Manning, Ewers, and Murphy all hit the portal simultaneously looking for that payday.

Or a year from now, Miami could be in exactly the same position depth wise if Emory Williams and Judd Anderson decide to test the waters.
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The only answer, and it’s a partial answer, is to limit how many times a player can transfer. That the NCAA can and has done. But beyond that, we are in an unregulated system which really can’t be regulated considering that by not making the players into employees, they truly are 1 year free agents.
Or schools can look to offer, instead of scholarship, contracts with non-complete clauses. And treat the players as independent contractors.
 
MedleyCane said:
Yeap.
The European soccer model where everyone develops players so they can sell to the ManCity, BayernMunich, PSG, and Chelsea's. Only the non-elite teams don't get paid for their work.
This current landscape is not good for UM football.
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Imagine a future where Texas, Texas A&M, Ohio State, and Georgia are the only teams that win a national championship for the next century. Where these schools field $250M player budgets.
 
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jackedaround said:
Good luck to anyone who pays that much for tvd.
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I guess it depends on the buyer, right? A school like Nebraska maybe so desperate to win 7-8 games that TVD looks like the answer. But for any school with conference or national championship aspirations, he is a mirage.
 
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I'd be pretty mad too if I paid Jeff Sims 7 figures...
 
MedleyCane said:
Not wrong.
But one has to realize that if a Nebraska, with its massive alum and boosters plus Big10 money, is concerned for the going price of an elite portal QB, then we probably should be worried as well.
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We are not the Canes of the past who didn’t invest in the football team. This program has legit support
 
U Wouldn’t Understand said:
Can you imagine a more F’d up situation than this debacle? It’s unreal the lack of foresight.
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They just convinced themselves it was never going to happen and they were hellbent on the archaic way it always was. Supreme Court said **** off and they seemed to cower and go home to do nothing. They’re a billion dollar a year organization for Christ sake, it’s embarrassing.
 
can you enter the portal and go back to your old team if you don’t like the offers?

It’s literally free agency with no strings. Why wouldn’t you explore your options?

We are going to have to buy our way to a better team.

Go Canes!
 
GojiraCane said:
Sure, but if you a University Miami fan (or a fan of virtually any other team) it basically destroys the sport. There's no continuity. Quality of play declines drastically. Recruiting becomes absolutely meaningless. Why get excited about a Fletcher or Bain because these are all year to year guys. A #1 class is irrelevant. Your team flips its entire roster every year. Everyone becomes Colorado.

It would be the same if all NFL or NBA players were signed to perpetual one year deals. The drafts for either sport would be meaningless. San Antonio could be thrilled about drafting Victor Wembanyama after a bad season in 2023; who cares however when the Los Angeles Lakers sign him one year later leaving the Spurs no better off.
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It’s like college basketball. One and done! It baffles me how teams like Duke, North Carolina, etc. can stay on top when all their freshmen leave yearly for the NBA.
 
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