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Going price for portal qb (according to matt rhule)

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Hear the message, forget the messenger. Rhule is 100% right

Imagine we develop for example anez cooper someone we evaluated and developed, and then a team just offers him a crazy bag and he leaves.We would be ****ed..

Same thing with addsion leaving pitt to usc last year, these coaches gotta evaluate then pay and recruit and then develop that player then recruit and pay them AGAIN to stay because they getting dozens of calls with teams offering life changing money to leave.

I understand all sides, player, and school but this **** is hectic and if u wanna win u gotta fight fire with fire
 
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
If you’re a good player, why wouldn’t you enter the portal? This **** is so stupid at this point, you’re almost doing yourself a disservice to not see what’s out there. It’s free agency but you can negotiate with any team at any time. Dip that toe. If I had a college athlete that was worth a ****, he’d be in the portal yesterday.
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Considering you could injure your neck like Malik Young and have lifelong injuries, and not have a pension and medical system like the nfl, it doesn’t really bother me kids are getting paid. If it was my kid I’d have them test the market too
 
E1k said:
Hear the message, forget the messenger. Rhule is 100% right

Imagine we develop for example anez cooper someone we evaluated and developed, and then a team just offers him a crazy bag and he leaves.We would be ****ed..

Same thing with addsion leaving pitt to usc last year, these coaches gotta evaluate then pay and recruit and then develop that player then recruit and pay them AGAIN to stay because they getting dozens of calls with teams offering life changing money to leave.

I understand all sides, player, and school but this **** is hectic and if u wanna win u gotta fight fire with fire
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Sure, but hearing someone who is paid millions and is generally given a pass when he leaves for greener pasture, and get cut a fat check to stop working seems soft.

If he or any coach doesn't want to deal with the discomfort and pressures accompanying that generous contract then go coach little league.
 
Silentobserver said:
Sure, but hearing someone who is paid millions and is generally given a pass when he leaves for greener pasture, and get cut a fat check to stop working seems soft.

If he or any coach doesn't want to deal with the discomfort and pressures accompanying that generous contract then go coach little league.
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Don’t think he said anything bad about it he just stated the reality of it, he just sounds like a goofy lol
 
2FNFST4U said:
Riley Leonard enters the portal the price will be insane to get him.
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Crazy what beating Clemson week 1 can do for a player's narrative (career 61% passer with 24 TDs and 10 INTs in 3 years of college ball).

I'm not saying I wouldn't want him in my QB room, but I'd be disappointed if this was my big off season QB move
 
I understand people think that players actually having options is the end of the world but it’s not.

1. “The teams with the most money will buy all the best players”

How is that different from any point in the history of college football? Are we going to pretend like there was ever a time when there was more than a handful of title contenders and everyone else was on the outside looking in? Because that’s how it has ALWAYS been.

2. “It’s free agency, players will just leave every year for more money”

Not really. You can still only transfer one time before you graduate. If anything it’s an incentive for players to produce. If you’re not good, nobody is trying to sign you from the portal, let alone get you an NIL deal. Plus there’s only a tiny handful of players who are commanding huge money. If you’re a team like Nebraska, who’s nowhere near competing for titles, you don’t need to be spending a ton of money on a single player. Your whole team sucks.

3. “There’s no more loyalty”

Coaches will tell a high school kid any kind of make believe bull**** to get him to sign on signing day. Then a week later take a better job and leave all the kids for whoever takes over. Matt Rhule has literally done this multiple times and has made millions doing so. Even if a coach doesn’t leave, there used to be no incentive for them to keep promises. Once a player signed, he was trapped there. Buried on the depth chart even though a coach promised you a starting spot? Oh well, what are you going to do? You’re stuck. Signed to play for a pass happy OC and they make a change to a triple option offense? Oh well. You’re stuck. Now coaches actually have to hold up their end of the bargain.


Also, remember that your original school is under no obligation to take you back if you enter the transfer portal. You’re doing so at your own risk. There’s a ton of kids who will be entering the portal over the next few weeks who unknowingly will be prematurely ending their college careers. It’s a risk/reward proposition.
 
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TrumpyCane said:
TrumpyCane has no issues with NIL

Transfer portal for immediate play time should be only if you graduated, lost a HC, or lost a position coach, otherwise you have to sit

Why not?
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This would probably be the only way to smooth this over. If none of those things happen, no transfers in your pocket or you have to sit a year.
 
Someone touched on it already, but the fix is already in place and just needs to be enforced. If you transfer once, fine, but if you move again, you sit out 1 year. Thing about it though, will the UGAs and Bamas and OSUs (maybe Texas) agree with this because if it is working for them, they will push back and halt it from happening. NCAA is going to take care of those that take care of them (aka $$$ in their pockets).
 
Silentobserver said:
Crazy what beating Clemson week 1 can do for a player's narrative (career 61% passer with 24 TDs and 10 INTs in 3 years of college ball).

I'm not saying I wouldn't want him in my QB room, but I'd be disappointed if this was my big off season QB move
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I’m not sure that’s a complete picture of his value. His running ability is what launches him into the dangerous QB tier.

I think it is safe to say that 90% of this board would be ecstatic to have Riley Leonard as QB1 for the 2024 season.
 
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CaneThang2020 said:
I’m not sure that’s a complete picture of his value. His running ability is what launches him into the dangerous QB tier.

I think it is safe to say that 90% of this board would be ecstatic to have Riley Leonard as QB1 for the 2024 season.
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Thats your opinion.. he was good for Duke.. Not for a program like ND. Im also curious if he can run after Elko forced him to play two weeks after a major sprain and again the next week before calling a lid on the season
 
AtlAtty said:
This is damaging the sport in terms of continuity, just as 1 and done has damaged college basketball.
But @OrangeBowlMagic is looking at this specifically from the standpoint of the player, and from that perspective I think you would agree he is correct.

The fan, the school, etc… have different perspectives some times from the player.
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I would say it's just as damaging to some players.

With incoming transfers, lower roster kids will be pinched. They may end up in the portal and not have places to go. Younger kids may jump around the portal looking for playing time or better payouts instead of developing at their first school, which ultimately can hinder their growth/development bc each S&C program, system, school, etc is different.

The elite kids will benefit. The second tier kids who didn't get paid before may now and benefit....or late bloomers who transfer from small schools to big will benefit. A lot of other kids will not benefit.
 
UMercury21 said:
i mean NCAA created this by not setting rules on NIL.... they should have set a cap on NIL for each sport and set up compliance section and hired a lot of people in it to enforce it. instead they let it go to wild wild west and now it's too late to turn back.
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Not possible. You can't set a cap on American citizens being allowed to only make a certain amount. That's called communism. How would you even enforce it? These guys are getting paid by multiple parties, not the school, nor just 1 employer.
 
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