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Going price for portal qb (according to matt rhule)

bandhammer said:
Not possible. You can't set a cap on American citizens being allowed to only make a certain amount. That's called communism. How would you even enforce it? These guys are getting paid by multiple parties, not the school, nor just 1 employer.
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so mlb nba nfl nhl mls ect are all communist? rofl.
how would you enforce it? easy you make rules......... NCAA would have a whole division specifically for NIL. it's called creating jobs.
 
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UMercury21 said:
so mlb nba nfl nhl mls ect are all communist? rofl.
how would you enforce it? easy you make rules......... NCAA would have a whole division specifically for NIL. it's called creating jobs.
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Those are organizations whose team members are paying their salaries. The University of Miami is not paying NIL money. John Ruiz and associates are paying NIL money. Why is it so hard for you to understand?

How would you enforce it? lol, you think Dodge is going to stop giving out free cars in Bama Ville?
 
UMercury21 said:
so mlb nba nfl nhl mls ect are all communist? rofl.
how would you enforce it? easy you make rules......... NCAA would have a whole division specifically for NIL. it's called creating jobs.
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Professional sports with salary caps have them included in contracts that are agreed upon by the players' unions. If they could somehow get every college football player to join a union, then they could collectively bargain some type of salary/NIL cap. Otherwise it's illegal to just limit someone's earnings.
 
GojiraCane said:
Partially, but you are going to have college teams in short order fielding rosters with payrolls that are above $100M. That's not sustainable for any but a few schools. If you think competitive balance is horrendous now, wait until those four schools adapt to a model where they don't recruit high schoolers at all, but instead just sign away any top-level talent that develops on all the other teams. And they do it year after year, decade after decade.
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European football is currently like this.

Clubs basically got dudes auditioning to go play for the European giants
 
DTP said:
Professional sports with salary caps have them included in contracts that are agreed upon by the players' unions. If they could somehow get every college football player to join a union, then they could collectively bargain some type of salary/NIL cap. Otherwise it's illegal to just limit someone's earnings.
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bandhammer said:
school, nor just 1 employer.
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NIL= Endorsement deals

No pro union would agree to a CBA that capped how much players could make in endorsements and neither should a college union on NIL

As long as the schools/NCAA want to farm out paying players to 3rd parties they have to deal with the result.
 
jed2410 said:
NIL= Endorsement deals

No pro union would agree to a CBA that capped how much players could make in endorsements and neither should a college union on NIL

As long as the schools/NCAA want to farm out paying players to 3rd parties they have to deal with the result.
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Agreed, and I don't think the NCAA wanted to do this, but by law, they are forced to.
 
DTP said:
Professional sports with salary caps have them included in contracts that are agreed upon by the players' unions. If they could somehow get every college football player to join a union, then they could collectively bargain some type of salary/NIL cap. Otherwise it's illegal to just limit someone's earnings.
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Exactly, and that doesn't limit the amount of endorsement deals an athlete can make beyond their salary.
 
MedleyCane said:
Not wrong.
But one has to realize that if a Nebraska, with its massive alum and boosters plus Big10 money, is concerned for the going price of an elite portal QB, then we probably should be worried as well.
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Price is only what someone is willing to pay. If the asking price is too much the market tends to work itself out.
 
LOLOLOL , not to many years ago all this would get colleges the death penalty, now we hold auctions for players.

GOCANES
 
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CaneThang2020 said:
I’m not sure that’s a complete picture of his value. His running ability is what launches him into the dangerous QB tier.

I think it is safe to say that 90% of this board would be ecstatic to have Riley Leonard as QB1 for the 2024 season.
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I know Leonard's value is that he's a dual threat guy, but his primary role would be that of a passer which he's average at.

Like I said, I don't dislike the idea of Leonard joining the Miami QB room, but I don't know if Leonard as the guy as well as potentially the amoung of money he would eat up is worth the squeeze (reason why I said it's crazy to think his $$$ has seemingly be made due to beating Clemson week 1).
 
DTP said:
Professional sports with salary caps have them included in contracts that are agreed upon by the players' unions. If they could somehow get every college football player to join a union, then they could collectively bargain some type of salary/NIL cap. Otherwise it's illegal to just limit someone's earnings.
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the NCAA isn't limiting their earnings. they would be limiting the availability of money.

i didn't really think people were this dumb.

i guess mcdonalds is communist bc they limit your pay too.... try going to mcd's getting a job and ask for 1m a year.
 
UMercury21 said:
the NCAA isn't limiting their earnings. they would be limiting the availability of money.

i didn't really think people were this dumb.

i guess mcdonalds is communist bc they limit your pay too.... try going to mcd's getting a job and ask for 1m a year.
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The NCAA isn't paying anyone. You're comparing an employer (Mc Donald's) to a governing body that isn't employing any athlete.

I didn't think people were this dumb either.

An employer will limit your pay to what they're willing to pay you. If boosters are willing to pay someone 10 billion dollars to sign a few autographs, that's their decision. You can't limit that. The ONLY way they could legally install some sort of salary cap would be if the players unionized and the union voted to allow a salary cap.
 
UMercury21 said:
the NCAA isn't limiting their earnings. they would be limiting the availability of money.

i didn't really think people were this dumb.

i guess mcdonalds is communist bc they limit your pay too.... try going to mcd's getting a job and ask for 1m a year.
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McDonald's is an EMPLOYER though, bro.
NIL money doesn't come from an employer.
 
Coach Macho said:
McDonald's is an EMPLOYER though, bro.
NIL money doesn't come from an employer.
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One thing that will have to change is calling it "NIL money". One of my players is going to a major P5 program for baseball, and he's going to get "NIL money" for doing absolutely nothing. He won't be selling his name, image, or likeness. He will get a payout because he signed the scholarship papers.
 
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WanderFranco said:
One thing that will have to change is calling it "NIL money". One of my players is going to a major P5 program for baseball, and he's going to get "NIL money" for doing absolutely nothing. He won't be selling his name, image, or likeness. He will get a payout because he signed the scholarship papers.
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True.
 
DTP said:
The NCAA isn't paying anyone. You're comparing an employer (Mc Donald's) to a governing body that isn't employing any athlete.

I didn't think people were this dumb either.

An employer will limit your pay to what they're willing to pay you. If boosters are willing to pay someone 10 billion dollars to sign a few autographs, that's their decision. You can't limit that. The ONLY way they could legally install some sort of salary cap would be if the players unionized and the union voted to allow a salary cap.
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If nothing is done, unionization feels inevitable. On its own, paying players wouldn't be so bad. But when combined with the portal it creates free agency. The two cannot continue to coexist in their current form.

The one thing they can do with NIL is actually commit to enforcing tampering rules, while attaching heavy penalties to schools that are caught breaking them. Yes there would still be ways to get around the rules. But it would definitely slow things down.

Then with the portal, the NCAA would need to change the rules to something like.. players aren't allowed to transfer without sitting for a year unless they've been enrolled as full time students for at least 2 years or they've earned a specific number of credits. They could still grant waivers for things like coaching changes.

Separating the two is the only thing they can do to slow it down. And it would likely only be a temporary fix.
 
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