Gerald Willis note

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Hurst
Wilkins
Vea
Payne
Phillips
and possibly Nnadi or however you spell his name

Will go ahead of McIntosh IMO.

He coupld be this years Johnathan Allen, 2-3 round pick as a Jr, early to mid 1st as a Sr.

yea i highly doubt that many guys are better or have better film than RJ.

Yea ug Nnadi definately is not going before him.

He should go...and i dont usually like to say it with our guys...
 
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Even the players who do get drafted high aren't always ready.

Demarcus Walker has three tackles this season in Denver.

Carlos Watkins has 10 tackles in Houston.

Jonathan Allen has 10 tackles for the Redskins.

Defensive line is about refined technique. These guys need to come back.

Some **** good data here. And Jonathan Allen was considered "All World" coming out of Bama.

Dont know why ...never saw him take over a game. He was all physique and hype. Majority of the guys arent full time starters. If your cashing checks as a 2nd rounder..no need to stay
 
Bottom line is we are a few years away from having the type of depth needed to be elite and consistently dominant. It's going to take everyone we recruit this class and for 2-3 more classes after that. The only exception would be if McIntosh and Norton came back and we added Willis. That would be a national championship DL with the requisite depth necessary.
 
Even the players who do get drafted high aren't always ready.

Demarcus Walker has three tackles this season in Denver.

Carlos Watkins has 10 tackles in Houston.

Jonathan Allen has 10 tackles for the Redskins.

Defensive line is about refined technique. These guys need to come back.

Some **** good data here. And Jonathan Allen was considered "All World" coming out of Bama.


To be fair Allen been out since October with a season ending injury...
 
I don’t see Norton going in the top 3 rounds. He should come back.

For RJ, he has a decision to make. Even if he’s projected as a round 2-3 type guy, with another year under Kool and another year of great tape, he could easily be a top 20 pick in the 2019 draft. There’s the risk of injury but also the reward of millions more guaranteed.

I selfishly want RJ to come back but you can’t fault him for going if he’s going to go top 3 rounds.


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Bottom line is we are a few years away from having the type of depth needed to be elite and consistently dominant. It's going to take everyone we recruit this class and for 2-3 more classes after that. The only exception would be if McIntosh and Norton came back and we added Willis. That would be a national championship DL with the requisite depth necessary.

THIS, but only if we don’t develop talent and score a high-ceiling transfer or two. I trust this staff to develop players like Bethel.



I don’t see Norton going in the top 3 rounds. He should come back.

For RJ, he has a decision to make. Even if he’s projected as a round 2-3 type guy, with another year under Kool and another year of great tape, he could easily be a top 20 pick in the 2019 draft. There’s the risk of injury but also the reward of millions more guaranteed.

I selfishly want RJ to come back but you can’t fault him for going if he’s going to go top 3 rounds.


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Unlike RB, definitely more upside to staying in college for another year.
 
Bottom line is we are a few years away from having the type of depth needed to be elite and consistently dominant. It's going to take everyone we recruit this class and for 2-3 more classes after that. The only exception would be if McIntosh and Norton came back and we added Willis. That would be a national championship DL with the requisite depth necessary.

THIS, but only if we don’t develop talent and score a high-ceiling transfer or two. I trust this staff to develop players like Bethel.



I don’t see Norton going in the top 3 rounds. He should come back.

For RJ, he has a decision to make. Even if he’s projected as a round 2-3 type guy, with another year under Kool and another year of great tape, he could easily be a top 20 pick in the 2019 draft. There’s the risk of injury but also the reward of millions more guaranteed.

I selfishly want RJ to come back but you can’t fault him for going if he’s going to go top 3 rounds.


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Unlike RB, definitely more upside to staying in college for another year.

I trust the staff to develop players as well. When I say deep I mean Clemson deep. That type of depth doesn't happen overnight.
 
Even the players who do get drafted high aren't always ready.

Demarcus Walker has three tackles this season in Denver.

Carlos Watkins has 10 tackles in Houston.

Jonathan Allen has 10 tackles for the Redskins.

Defensive line is about refined technique. These guys need to come back.

Some **** good data here. And Jonathan Allen was considered "All World" coming out of Bama.

Dont know why ...never saw him take over a game. He was all physique and hype. Majority of the guys arent full time starters. If your cashing checks as a 2nd rounder..no need to stay

FWIW, Allen was playing really well for the skins before they lost him for the year with an injury a while back.
 
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Even the players who do get drafted high aren't always ready.

Demarcus Walker has three tackles this season in Denver.

Carlos Watkins has 10 tackles in Houston.

Jonathan Allen has 10 tackles for the Redskins.

Defensive line is about refined technique. These guys need to come back.

Some **** good data here. And Jonathan Allen was considered "All World" coming out of Bama.

Dont know why ...never saw him take over a game. He was all physique and hype. Majority of the guys arent full time starters. If your cashing checks as a 2nd rounder..no need to stay

FWIW, Allen was playing really well for the skins before they lost him for the year with an injury a while back.

This is my bad. I didn't look at his game log.
 
Bottom line is we are a few years away from having the type of depth needed to be elite and consistently dominant. It's going to take everyone we recruit this class and for 2-3 more classes after that. The only exception would be if McIntosh and Norton came back and we added Willis. That would be a national championship DL with the requisite depth necessary.

THIS, but only if we don’t develop talent and score a high-ceiling transfer or two. I trust this staff to develop players like Bethel.



I don’t see Norton going in the top 3 rounds. He should come back.

For RJ, he has a decision to make. Even if he’s projected as a round 2-3 type guy, with another year under Kool and another year of great tape, he could easily be a top 20 pick in the 2019 draft. There’s the risk of injury but also the reward of millions more guaranteed.

I selfishly want RJ to come back but you can’t fault him for going if he’s going to go top 3 rounds.


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Unlike RB, definitely more upside to staying in college for another year.

I trust the staff to develop players as well. When I say deep I mean Clemson deep. That type of depth doesn't happen overnight.

True, but I don’t think we need Clemson DT depth to win championships. DEs and DBs grow on trees in SoFla. While DT needs to be prioritized, there are different, though similar, roadmaps to assemble championship caliber defenses.
 
Even the players who do get drafted high aren't always ready.

Demarcus Walker has three tackles this season in Denver.

Carlos Watkins has 10 tackles in Houston.

Jonathan Allen has 10 tackles for the Redskins.

Defensive line is about refined technique. These guys need to come back.

Some **** good data here. And Jonathan Allen was considered "All World" coming out of Bama.

Dont know why ...never saw him take over a game. He was all physique and hype. Majority of the guys arent full time starters. If your cashing checks as a 2nd rounder..no need to stay

What? Allen was dominant his last year at bama.
 
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Hurst
Wilkins
Vea
Payne
Phillips
and possibly Nnadi or however you spell his name

Will go ahead of McIntosh IMO.

He coupld be this years Johnathan Allen, 2-3 round pick as a Jr, early to mid 1st as a Sr.

The following year's draft is even stronger at the top. Dexter Lawrence, Ed Oliver Rashan Gary
 
Norton and Willis inside would be nice. I think RJ is gone. The tape don't lie

How did he do against Clemsons dominate line? Just asking It was so bad I didn't notice.
I would have to go back and watch him in isolation during that fiasco of a game. I'd rather not.
From what I recall, the D overall stiffened considerably in the 2nd half, but by then, coupled with all the other crap, it was too late.
 
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