Geo and D$ - help me reconcile something

isn't the fact no announcement has been made, enough proof that this will be a process ?

Perhaps, but it seems like the vibe has shifted from "this will be a national search with a real budget and no timeframe" to "the big money guys want Butch and it could happen as early as Thanksgiving." Maybe I'm just reading too much into things.
I came to the same conclusion. I was under the assumption this would be a thorough search. Suddenly DiMare wants Butch and it's between him and Chud and a thanksgiving announcement might be made if his background check comes out clean.

As as franchise said, the real AD is DiMare and if he wants Butch then it's most likely a done deal IMO. Terrible way to conduct a search and very disappointing

Yup. Sounds like we're taking the extremely safe route in hiring Butch. Doubt we've even reached out to guys like Patterson, Dantonio, Kelly, Fuente, Herman etc. to gauge their interest. Like you said; very disappointing.
 
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im not trying to come down on anyone here, but no one knows. it is an open process. if the announcement lingers past thanksgiving weekend it WILL NOT BE BUTCH. imo i think Herman is coming here. I honestly believe it. I won't tell how I know but I am from Texas.

I'll say it again , it's gonna be Herman
Is this just your gut feeling or do you know something the rest of us do not?
 
I'd say that UM is doing a nation-wide search. They're probably putting out feelers to top coaches, looking at up and coming coaches, and doing their evaluations just as any due diligence would require.

Chip, Fuentes, Herman, on and on and on. Look at their resume, look at their coaching record, look at their body of work. And then ask if they're interested - a lot of this won't be made public, as it's almost embarrassing to be publicly turned down by scores of coaches that are just being "considered."

So. What's the standard to measure against?

I'd suggest it's Butch Davis.

Lesser performers, no real body of work, etc., no comparable environment experience, no true consistency, when compared to The Standard, are eliminated very quickly.

So when DiMare holds out Butch Davis - it's like "show me someone with an equivalent or better body of work who is interested, and then let's figure this out."

Smart men always have an ace in the hole.

"This is my standard, this is my man. If you can find someone better in ALL categories, bring him in, but we're not relying on having fish tonight if we don't catch anything - I've got steak in the freezer."
 
They are not going to announce anything until after the season. You still have a team with a few meaningful games remaining, coaches that maybe they want to talk to but can't until the season is over. Even if it's Butch, which I personally hope it is, they will not announce until after the last game. There would be to many distractions for this team and it's staff if they announced a new head coach right now.
 
They are not going to announce anything until after the season. You still have a team with a few meaningful games remaining, coaches that maybe they want to talk to but can't until the season is over. Even if it's Butch, which I personally hope it is, they will not announce until after the last game. There would be to many distractions for this team and it's staff if they announced a new head coach right now.
If Butch is their choice they should announce it now. Recruits are dropping like flies.
 
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im not trying to come down on anyone here, but no one knows. it is an open process. if the announcement lingers past thanksgiving weekend it WILL NOT BE BUTCH. imo i think Herman is coming here. I honestly believe it. I won't tell how I know but I am from Texas.

Less than ONE year as a head coach, has beaten NO top teams as a head coach....and Herman is coming to Miami and you know cause you're from Texas......that about right ???

remember....a face on fire will get help much faster.

once houston runs the table you will be humbled. if they dont we wont hire him.
 
im not trying to come down on anyone here, but no one knows. it is an open process. if the announcement lingers past thanksgiving weekend it WILL NOT BE BUTCH. imo i think Herman is coming here. I honestly believe it. I won't tell how I know but I am from Texas.

OK dude..
 
im not trying to come down on anyone here, but no one knows. it is an open process. if the announcement lingers past thanksgiving weekend it WILL NOT BE BUTCH. imo i think Herman is coming here. I honestly believe it. I won't tell how I know but I am from Texas.

OK dude..

you dont get this line do you? it is a level. I DONT KNOW. the i am from Texas is a play on other posters here yapping their traps about sauces and rumors.
 
They are not going to announce anything until after the season. You still have a team with a few meaningful games remaining, coaches that maybe they want to talk to but can't until the season is over. Even if it's Butch, which I personally hope it is, they will not announce until after the last game. There would be to many distractions for this team and it's staff if they announced a new head coach right now.

??? If they want to go with Butch they should announce it as soon as possible. Golden has been fired.. there is no ones foot to step on.
 
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They are not going to announce anything until after the season. You still have a team with a few meaningful games remaining, coaches that maybe they want to talk to but can't until the season is over. Even if it's Butch, which I personally hope it is, they will not announce until after the last game. There would be to many distractions for this team and it's staff if they announced a new head coach right now.
If Butch is their choice they should announce it now. Recruits are dropping like flies.

it's not like they have committed elsewhere, have they? They are just now "opening up" the recruiting process and waiting until a new coach is named. Plenty of time to get any back, or get better ones to replace them once the season is over. Verbals don't seem to mean much anyways with these kids.
 
They are not going to announce anything until after the season. You still have a team with a few meaningful games remaining, coaches that maybe they want to talk to but can't until the season is over. Even if it's Butch, which I personally hope it is, they will not announce until after the last game. There would be to many distractions for this team and it's staff if they announced a new head coach right now.
If Butch is their choice they should announce it now. Recruits are dropping like flies.

it's not like they have committed elsewhere, have they? They are just now "opening up" the recruiting process and waiting until a new coach is named. Plenty of time to get any back, or get better ones to replace them once the season is over. Verbals don't seem to mean much anyways with these kids.

people put too much stock into 17 year old kids who havent proven anything. once you arent bigger faster and stronger reality sets in.
 
They are not going to announce anything until after the season. You still have a team with a few meaningful games remaining, coaches that maybe they want to talk to but can't until the season is over. Even if it's Butch, which I personally hope it is, they will not announce until after the last game. There would be to many distractions for this team and it's staff if they announced a new head coach right now.
If Butch is their choice they should announce it now. Recruits are dropping like flies.

it's not like they have committed elsewhere, have they? They are just now "opening up" the recruiting process and waiting until a new coach is named. Plenty of time to get any back, or get better ones to replace them once the season is over. Verbals don't seem to mean much anyways with these kids.
For the record I am hoping they are conducting a thorough, national search, in which case it would make sense that nothing is announced until after the season. But if Butch is their choice, why wait to announce it? Let him come in as soon as possible and keep the class together.
 
They are not going to announce anything until after the season. You still have a team with a few meaningful games remaining, coaches that maybe they want to talk to but can't until the season is over. Even if it's Butch, which I personally hope it is, they will not announce until after the last game. There would be to many distractions for this team and it's staff if they announced a new head coach right now.
If Butch is their choice they should announce it now. Recruits are dropping like flies.

All the more reason to hire Butch. Between his first presser and a croot call, he'll have all the croots salivating.

 
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They are not going to announce anything until after the season. You still have a team with a few meaningful games remaining, coaches that maybe they want to talk to but can't until the season is over. Even if it's Butch, which I personally hope it is, they will not announce until after the last game. There would be to many distractions for this team and it's staff if they announced a new head coach right now.
If Butch is their choice they should announce it now. Recruits are dropping like flies.

it's not like they have committed elsewhere, have they? They are just now "opening up" the recruiting process and waiting until a new coach is named. Plenty of time to get any back, or get better ones to replace them once the season is over. Verbals don't seem to mean much anyways with these kids.
For the record I am hoping they are conducting a thorough, national search, in which case it would make sense that nothing is announced until after the season. But if Butch is their choice, why wait to announce it? Let him come in as soon as possible and keep the class together.

Winning the coastal -- however unlikely that may be -- would be much more valuable in recruiting than announcing Butch as the head coach a few weeks earlier. Pure speculation, but presuming for argument's sake a decision has been made, the admin may not see the value in rocking the boat until we're eliminated from the Coastal. You announce someone like Butch now and the team will lose focus.
 
First thought: If money wont be an issue, then I assume that money will be spent on assistants.
 
They are not going to announce anything until after the season. You still have a team with a few meaningful games remaining, coaches that maybe they want to talk to but can't until the season is over. Even if it's Butch, which I personally hope it is, they will not announce until after the last game. There would be to many distractions for this team and it's staff if they announced a new head coach right now.
If Butch is their choice they should announce it now. Recruits are dropping like flies.

it's not like they have committed elsewhere, have they? They are just now "opening up" the recruiting process and waiting until a new coach is named. Plenty of time to get any back, or get better ones to replace them once the season is over. Verbals don't seem to mean much anyways with these kids.
For the record I am hoping they are conducting a thorough, national search, in which case it would make sense that nothing is announced until after the season. But if Butch is their choice, why wait to announce it? Let him come in as soon as possible and keep the class together.

Winning the coastal -- however unlikely that may be -- would be much more valuable in recruiting than announcing Butch as the head coach a few weeks earlier. Pure speculation, but presuming for argument's sake a decision has been made, the admin may not see the value in rocking the boat until we're eliminated from the Coastal. You announce someone like Butch now and the team will lose focus.

Exactly, that's why I said LONG AGO...IF we lose to (the first time I said Duke, then UVA) UNC and it's Butch, then announce it, let him start doing his thing for next year. We are already bowl eligible, so who cares if we go to the Sun Bowl or the Pinstripe Bowl, if we lose to UNC, we ain't winning no Coastal.
 
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December 1, 2015 Butch Davis is introduced again as Miami Hurricane Head Football Coach; Welcome Back Butch!

can't wait
 
Good question by the OP. I also have a hard time understanding how we went from a thorough search to Butch maybe signed as early as Thanksgiving. Also, why wait to sign Butch if that's who they want and he is available right now?

That thorough search PC nonsense was probably out of Flake's office. It's just a dog and pony show to keep Flake busy, and pretending like he matters. Meanwhile the BOT is doing their own thing.

The BOT will tell Flake when to make the Butch announcement. My guess is right after the Pitt game (while the return flight is in the air) as they'll want to have some sense of player normalcy.

If it doesn't happen by December 2, Butch won't get it.


That makes sense. Keeps the coaches working hard trying to improve their post Golden resume for new jobs. Give kids a chance to finally be in the spot light instead of the headlight of the bus Al kept throwing them under. So by December 2 we know if we are buying season tickets or not. No Butch then lost of extra money for the casino at Christmas.

Or if you really want to gamble, buy those season tix regardless. :friendly_wink:
 
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