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DTP said:
I guess the guy watching the film determines what’s considered “turnover worthy”. Seems like if 5% of your passes are being intercepted though (one of the worst if not THE worst percentage in the country) it’s more than some bad luck and deflected passes.

Regardless of what someone calls turnover worthy or big play worthy or whatever, his play didn’t translate into more points for the gator offense.
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That was my first question. What determines a turnover worthy play? If it's subjective, it's a meaningless statistic subject to bias.
 
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Gonna take the other side of this. DJ is closer to cam than hurts. He made elite throws as a tf. He has tremendous arm talent and he has insane expectations for next year. He will almost certainly fall short of these expectations
 
JD08 said:
That was my first question. What determines a turnover worthy play? If it's subjective, it's a meaningless statistic subject to bias.
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A lot of PPF stats are subjective. Especially if you don’t know what play was actually called.

Still I’d prefer someone who makes “turnover worthy plays” but doesn’t actually turn the ball over instead of someone who just turns it over. ****, Cam probably led the country in “turnover worthy plays”.
 
TakeitinDiaz said:
To me it all comes down to who is teaching him to read defenses. He has all the physical tools, and he can watch all the film he wants. But there’s a world of difference between watching film with Lincoln Riley vs watching film with Billy Napier. He may not pick up those nuances that separate the good from the elite.
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At the end of the day you can teach someone to read a defense perfectly. Will they read it in game is always up to them. The player is responsible for Ben if he’s taught it perfectly. He’s the last one with the ball in his hands to make those teaching moments worth it. If he can’t see it, that’s on him not the staff
 
TOcane said:
I think he will bust. He could have the tools but if he fails Napier will never get out of the QB killer narrative that was stuck to Mario before. I don't see him turning a kid into anything.
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If he’s wild under pressure and can’t see **** yea he will flake out. He can still make some plays here and there like (TVD) but he won’t be that difference maker teams need to compete.
 
Mario might have made some **** hires in hindsight but he’s not to stubborn to move on. That’s crucial to being successful, lots of great coaches have failed due to not having this trait.

Also, **** Lagway
 
Gocanes1990 said:
Gonna take the other side of this. DJ is closer to cam than hurts. He made elite throws as a tf. He has tremendous arm talent and he has insane expectations for next year. He will almost certainly fall short of these expectations
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Can’t be compared to Cam if you barely even run (or at least not successfully) though. Cam was an elite runner. In that sense I’d probably compare him more to Josh Freeman than Cam tbh.

Maybe a Carson Wentz, Jay Cutler, Big Ben, or even Dak Prescott.
 
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Let’s also remember that Lagway got hurt against Georgia (he was 2-6 47 yards) and then missed the Texas game with an injury. So he only played like one series against the two best teams on their schedule. He made it back against a good Ole Miss defense but threw for all of 180 yards. Florida got outgained 464-344 but Mississippi turned it over three times while Florida just had a Lagway interception.

There’s a lot of stat padding from Samford, Kentucky and Tulane on his season numbers. Combined with a bunch of games where he only played part time (a combined 11-11 126 against Mississippi State and UCF) .
 
BALLHAWKU said:
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Yes. The first guy who responded is a real genius. They shouldn't believe the SEC coaches. Instead, they should listen to the DC that Miami fired, plus PanhandleG8TR's friends...



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TheOriginalCane said:
Yes. The first guy who responded is a real genius. They shouldn't believe the SEC coaches. Instead, they should listen to the DC that Miami fired, plus PanhandleG8TR's friends...



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Actually think I remember Guidry saying the opposite. Plus based on how our defense couldn't line up properly if they were some complicated scheme I would think they would have scored more.
 
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