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Alright, I'll try to simplify this.

This is absolutely, positively, completely NOT NIL, no matter what the inaccurate headlines say. This was a payday loan.

Dexter did not have to DO ANYTHING, or perform any services, to earn the money that was advanced to him by BLAF.

As such, it is entirely possible that this never went through any sort of "NIL review". Because it's not NIL.

Now, having said that, there are a wide variety of contracts a person COULD enter into. Dexter could have taken out a mortgage on a house, and that's not NIL either.

But what seems to have happened is that he was advanced money against future ATHLETIC PERFORMANCE income, which is also not NIL and is a definite violation of the NCAA rules. And, yes, it's not a problem for MLB players who are going into the minor leagues, but it is ABSOLUTELY a problem in any sport that requires "amateur" standing.

Here is an angle that very few people have considered thus far - this type of NON-NIL income invalidated Dexter's eligibility. Thus, the University of Florida could/should be required for forfeit games in which Dexter played. I know that Dexter played in every game in 2020, so Mullet might lose his 8 wins from 2020, plus his 5 wins from 2021. And Slingblade Billy might lose his 6 wins from 2022.

Words matter. This is why I was asking about whether this is ACTUALLY an NIL deal or not. Because if it is not...then that is BAD NEWS for the Gaytors. Very bad news. Dexter was ineligible. And this can't be fixed by him paying a booster back for an impermissible dinner.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Wait...so they had two offensive linemen blocking each other?

Hilarious.

It's not like they haven't seen this before....
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Seems like more of a regular routine as opposed to an aberration when it comes to the turdsā€¦this ainā€™t the first time theyā€™ve had Olinemen blocking each other or running into each other on running plays and Iā€™m pretty sure when it comes to these fools it wonā€™t be the last either..
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
Alright, I'll try to simplify this.

This is absolutely, positively, completely NOT NIL, no matter what the inaccurate headlines say. This was a payday loan.

Dexter did not have to DO ANYTHING, or perform any services, to earn the money that was advanced to him by BLAF.

As such, it is entirely possible that this never went through any sort of "NIL review". Because it's not NIL.

Now, having said that, there are a wide variety of contracts a person COULD enter into. Dexter could have taken out a mortgage on a house, and that's not NIL either.

But what seems to have happened is that he was advanced money against future ATHLETIC PERFORMANCE income, which is also not NIL and is a definite violation of the NCAA rules. And, yes, it's not a problem for MLB players who are going into the minor leagues, but it is ABSOLUTELY a problem in any sport that requires "amateur" standing.

Here is an angle that very few people have considered thus far - this type of NON-NIL income invalidated Dexter's eligibility. Thus, the University of Florida could/should be required for forfeit games in which Dexter played. I know that Dexter played in every game in 2020, so Mullet might lose his 8 wins from 2020, plus his 5 wins from 2021. And Slingblade Billy might lose his 6 wins from 2022.

Words matter. This is why I was asking about whether this is ACTUALLY an NIL deal or not. Because if it is not...then that is BAD NEWS for the Gaytors. Very bad news. Dexter was ineligible. And this can't be fixed by him paying a booster back for an impermissible dinner.
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Blah, blah, blah. All I wanna know is if UF will get the death penalty! That's it!









Seriously though, thanks for the insight.
 
CanefaninBuckeyeland said:
Blah, blah, blah. All I wanna know is if UF will get the death penalty! That's it!









Seriously though, thanks for the insight.
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TheOriginalCane said:
Alright, I'll try to simplify this.

This is absolutely, positively, completely NOT NIL, no matter what the inaccurate headlines say. This was a payday loan.

Dexter did not have to DO ANYTHING, or perform any services, to earn the money that was advanced to him by BLAF.

As such, it is entirely possible that this never went through any sort of "NIL review". Because it's not NIL.

Now, having said that, there are a wide variety of contracts a person COULD enter into. Dexter could have taken out a mortgage on a house, and that's not NIL either.

But what seems to have happened is that he was advanced money against future ATHLETIC PERFORMANCE income, which is also not NIL and is a definite violation of the NCAA rules. And, yes, it's not a problem for MLB players who are going into the minor leagues, but it is ABSOLUTELY a problem in any sport that requires "amateur" standing.

Here is an angle that very few people have considered thus far - this type of NON-NIL income invalidated Dexter's eligibility. Thus, the University of Florida could/should be required for forfeit games in which Dexter played. I know that Dexter played in every game in 2020, so Mullet might lose his 8 wins from 2020, plus his 5 wins from 2021. And Slingblade Billy might lose his 6 wins from 2022.

Words matter. This is why I was asking about whether this is ACTUALLY an NIL deal or not. Because if it is not...then that is BAD NEWS for the Gaytors. Very bad news. Dexter was ineligible. And this can't be fixed by him paying a booster back for an impermissible dinner.
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Yeah these were those future earnings loans that a lot of players took out before NIL. Usually it was done in an uncle's name and the interest was nowhere near that or for that long. It's how a lot of players in the late 90s early 2000 had slick cars and apartments while playing for a scholarship. But it was only for future top draft picks and done through legitimate banks.
 
I donā€™t think he was the only player signing away a percentage of future earnings. When NIL first started, an attorney in California entering the newly created ā€œNILā€ specialty was a guest on a sports podcast, and critical of these types of clauses, warning young athletes and their families to have an attorney thoroughly review the offer before signing. Many of these kids and their families are going to see an initial payday far bigger than theyā€™ve ever seen and not think it through.

Anyone find a copy of the contract online? In addition to sacrificing his amateur status he may have also signed a deal contingent upon his signing a LOI with the Gators. A definite violation of NIL rules and regulations.

If Iā€™m not mistaken, it is also a violation of Florida law for anyone dealing with an amateur athlete to engage in activities that causes that athlete to lose their amateur status. Not sure if this would be a civil offense or criminal, but clearly a problem for BLAF.
 
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TemplarCane said:
I donā€™t think he was the only player signing away a percentage of future earnings. When NIL first started, an attorney in California entering the newly created ā€œNILā€ specialty was a guest on a sports podcast, and critical of these types of clauses, warning young athletes and their families to have an attorney thoroughly review the offer before signing. Many of these kids and their families are going to see an initial payday far bigger than theyā€™ve ever seen and not think it through.

Anyone find a copy of the contract online? In addition to sacrificing his amateur status he may have also signed a deal contingent upon his signing a LOI with the Gators. A definite violation of NIL rules and regulations.

If Iā€™m not mistaken, it is also a violation of Florida law for anyone dealing with an amateur athlete to engage in activities that causes that athlete to lose their amateur status. Not sure if this would be a civil offense or criminal, but clearly a problem for BLAF.
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Itā€™s a weirdly structured deal. Thereā€™s a similar program in MiLB or amateur leagues, where a company gives them $X for X portion of future earnings or flat amount whichever is greater. I believe Fernando Tatis signed a deal where the org got like 1 or 2% of his future earnings and he got an advance on like $1million. Those are used to get more advanced equipment, training, lodging, etc. but the crux is the same. Unfortunately for the kid in this situation Iā€™m sure they slapped $400k on the table on he threw reason out the window.

It was only a matter of time before these stories started leaking out. Iā€™m sure this kid isnā€™t the only one and UF isnā€™t the only school.
 
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