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TheOriginalCane said:
Anyone can use any words they want to use, buuuuuuttttt...

It isn't really an "NIL deal" if they don't require the players to do anything involving Name, Image, or Licensing. If they are just advancing money to college FOOTBALL players against their future NFL SALARIES, then it is no different from the "minor league baseball investment strategy".

People can put any name on it that they want, to make it look good, to make it look like they are not violating the amateurism rules, but this is NOT true NIL.

This is just like what happens right before the draft, when the agent starts advancing a kid money prior to the ACTUAL draft slot being determined.

And once THAT happens, the eligibility is forfeited. Which means that The Gaytor used an ineligible player in 2022.
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Nolan Smith did social posts, appearances and photoshoots, according to the article. Probably the rest as well.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
Anyone can use any words they want to use, buuuuuuttttt...

It isn't really an "NIL deal" if they don't require the players to do anything involving Name, Image, or Licensing. If they are just advancing money to college FOOTBALL players against their future NFL SALARIES, then it is no different from the "minor league baseball investment strategy".

People can put any name on it that they want, to make it look good, to make it look like they are not violating the amateurism rules, but this is NOT true NIL.

This is just like what happens right before the draft, when the agent starts advancing a kid money prior to the ACTUAL draft slot being determined.

And once THAT happens, the eligibility is forfeited. Which means that The Gaytor used an ineligible player in 2022.
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In one of the articles I read (can’t remember which) the “NIL” players were required to do a certain amount of social media posts and things like that. Don’t know how or it that would affect it
 
TRick72 said:
In one of the articles I read (can’t remember which) the “NIL” players were required to do a certain amount of social media posts and things like that. Don’t know how or it that would affect it
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Espn:

In exchange for the payment, Dexter granted BLA a "perpetual, irrevocable, royalty-free, and worldwide license for the duration of the Initial Term to use the Player's name, image, likeness, comments, biographical information and/or athletic reputation for the advertisement or publication of BLA, including in social media posts, interviews, online content, press releases, and any other media."

Dexter was required to make at least one social media post promoting BLA and its products, autograph as many as 100 items for BLA, make at least two personal appearances and provide BLA with at least one VIP invitation to the NFL draft and draft-related events that he hosted.
 
Suhrthing said:
Espn:

In exchange for the payment, Dexter granted BLA a "perpetual, irrevocable, royalty-free, and worldwide license for the duration of the Initial Term to use the Player's name, image, likeness, comments, biographical information and/or athletic reputation for the advertisement or publication of BLA, including in social media posts, interviews, online content, press releases, and any other media."

Dexter was required to make at least one social media post promoting BLA and its products, autograph as many as 100 items for BLA, make at least two personal appearances and provide BLA with at least one VIP invitation to the NFL draft and draft-related events that he hosted.
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That kid sold his soul.
 
Suhrthing said:
Espn:

In exchange for the payment, Dexter granted BLA a "perpetual, irrevocable, royalty-free, and worldwide license for the duration of the Initial Term to use the Player's name, image, likeness, comments, biographical information and/or athletic reputation for the advertisement or publication of BLA, including in social media posts, interviews, online content, press releases, and any other media."

Dexter was required to make at least one social media post promoting BLA and its products, autograph as many as 100 items for BLA, make at least two personal appearances and provide BLA with at least one VIP invitation to the NFL draft and draft-related events that he hosted.
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Again, people are misunderstanding the substance of what is happening here.

The primary issue with the contract is an advancement of a half-million dollars in exchange for 15% of future earnings for 25 years. That is illegal. That is, quite literally, pay-for-play. The fact that the advance fund is dressing it up a bit by tossing in a few distracting "autograph signings" as a requirement doestn't remove the payback associated with 25 years of athletic earnings.

If that were the case, then you could have REAL agents signing freshmen to binding agent contracts, advancing them a few hundred thousand, and then disguising it with a transparent "oh, but I asked the kid to say nice things about my firm and show up to a few functions".

If an agent (or advance fund) could manage to be patient and ONLY sign a TRUE deal involving NIL, then they would likely earn enough trust and goodwill to EVENTUALLY sign the player. But you can't bundle two different things into one contract, an illegal contract against future ATHLETIC earnings and an otherwise legitimate NIL arrangement.

To use a different example, a player can't take a pay-for-play deal, and then regain his eligibility by donating all the money to charity.

To use an even different example, you can't hire a prostitute in order to satisfy a "Make a Wish" kid's final request.

This was an illegal pay-for-play contract with a few "NIL garnishes" to try to put some lipstick on the pig.

Any judge will see through this pantomime in about a minute.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
Again, people are misunderstanding the substance of what is happening here.

The primary issue with the contract is an advancement of a half-million dollars in exchange for 15% of future earnings for 25 years. That is illegal. That is, quite literally, pay-for-play. The fact that the advance fund is dressing it up a bit by tossing in a few distracting "autograph signings" as a requirement doestn't remove the payback associated with 25 years of athletic earnings.

If that were the case, then you could have REAL agents signing freshmen to binding agent contracts, advancing them a few hundred thousand, and then disguising it with a transparent "oh, but I asked the kid to say nice things about my firm and show up to a few functions".

If an agent (or advance fund) could manage to be patient and ONLY sign a TRUE deal involving NIL, then they would likely earn enough trust and goodwill to EVENTUALLY sign the player. But you can't bundle two different things into one contract, an illegal contract against future ATHLETIC earnings and an otherwise legitimate NIL arrangement.

To use a different example, a player can't take a pay-for-play deal, and then regain his eligibility by donating all the money to charity.

To use an even different example, you can't hire a prostitute in order to satisfy a "Make a Wish" kid's final request.

This was an illegal pay-for-play contract with a few "NIL garnishes" to try to put some lipstick on the pig.

Any judge will see through this pantomime in about a minute.
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Was part of his contract to provide NIL or no?
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Again, people are misunderstanding the substance of what is happening here.

The primary issue with the contract is an advancement of a half-million dollars in exchange for 15% of future earnings for 25 years. That is illegal. That is, quite literally, pay-for-play. The fact that the advance fund is dressing it up a bit by tossing in a few distracting "autograph signings" as a requirement doestn't remove the payback associated with 25 years of athletic earnings.

If that were the case, then you could have REAL agents signing freshmen to binding agent contracts, advancing them a few hundred thousand, and then disguising it with a transparent "oh, but I asked the kid to say nice things about my firm and show up to a few functions".

If an agent (or advance fund) could manage to be patient and ONLY sign a TRUE deal involving NIL, then they would likely earn enough trust and goodwill to EVENTUALLY sign the player. But you can't bundle two different things into one contract, an illegal contract against future ATHLETIC earnings and an otherwise legitimate NIL arrangement.

To use a different example, a player can't take a pay-for-play deal, and then regain his eligibility by donating all the money to charity.

To use an even different example, you can't hire a prostitute in order to satisfy a "Make a Wish" kid's final request.

This was an illegal pay-for-play contract with a few "NIL garnishes" to try to put some lipstick on the pig.

Any judge will see through this pantomime in about a minute.
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+2 pantomime
 
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MgDuBzZ said:
Kadarius Toney making a fool of himself tonight lol
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