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TakeitinDiaz said:
Not to get sappy all, but wanted to let you know how much I appreciate everyone here. Been stuck in a room the last four days with the rona and this thread has just kept my spirits up. God bless you all
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same fam. Covid sucks ***
 
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TRick72 said:
You know how bad things are going that they haven’t played a game yet and the fan base is already overwhelmingly mope while trolling their own recruiting with “Florida eliminated” and “hope we finish before Hawaii”?

With Lispy 99% of fan base gave him a chance before he played a game and after 1st season even though there was a few of us who were vocal, we were a small minority. With Billy it’s the polar opposite with only a small minority supporting him. This is going to get much worse and I love it!!!
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Yeah, but even he didn't recruit on this epically bad a level.
 
TakeitinDiaz said:
Not to get sappy all, but wanted to let you know how much I appreciate everyone here. Been stuck in a room the last four days with the rona and this thread has just kept my spirits up. God bless you all
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I know the feels. My wife has it now so I’ve been stuck home watching my 1.5 year old while she sleeps in the basement all day. Canes news and this thread is keeping my sanity.
 
I swear, I don’t know how my football fortunes flipped so quickly. Lifelong bengals fan, had no hope for anything good before the season started, and got to make the trip to LA for the super bowl. And going from manny to Mario in that same time has changed my college football outlook. Rad needs to make sure we don’t get left behind in the realignment. And then, UF makes a historically bad hire and brings me nothing but joy for 7 straight months so far. Life is good

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OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
You already know how much I hate the gators, always have, always will.

But I’m going try to give an objective opinion here, even though it is one that fits my agenda.

This latest revelation about Sling Blade, confirms to me that the guy is tone deaf, lacks good people instincts, and simply does not know how to lead.

How any good leader in their right mind would think that forcing his players to contribute money to an association, when they really don’t even have a salary, is insane. Even if they were being paid a salary, I would chafe at my boss telling me I had to contribute, most people would resent this.

He simply does not know his audience nor how to lead them. His instincts are all wrong.

Here’s something else that I continue to notice about him and I think is in part of reason why he leaves such a negative impression and why his recruiting is circling the toilet. Look at his personal appearance. It’s horrible. He looks unkempt, unshaven, and unhygienic.

You may think that’s such a silly point, such a minor thing, but it isn’t. He doesn’t understand the audience that he’s targeting for recruiting. I guarantee you that the mothers of these athletes take one look at him and form a negative impression. You have to understand the people you’re targeting, and moms aren’t looking for some scruffy unshaven goofball hick to lead their children.

Think of coaches that are considered good recruiters, and I’ll tell you one thing they have in common, is that they have a presentable appearance, and don’t look like unshaven dirty bums.

I’m calling it now, and I’ll leave myself open to all kind of criticism and receipts, I don’t care, this guy is guaranteed to fail. I guarantee it. The only thing I hope for is it it takes three or four years so he really drives that program into the ground. I hope he’s not fired in a couple of years. I want him to bury this program.

If you remember with Mcsharkfūcker, I called his demise before anyone else did. The first time I heard about him complaining about the so-called threats, I knew that was it - I knew he was going to be fired. And I said so on here. If anybody wants to bother looking that up, they can. It’s in here somewhere.

My gut, and the accumulation of these clues we are getting about his leadership, his appearance, his lack of success so far in recruiting, and his behavioral patterns, tell me this guy is going to slowly put a stake through the Florida gators.

I am so here for this.
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First off, I can't see you getting much disagreement about him failing around here. ****, I can't see any.

Second, you're spot on about his appearance. Recruiting is sales, and a lot of sales is about non-verbal communication. There's what you say and what you offer, but how you are perceived is absolutely important. As fans, we go on and on about the money, and that's very important, but in a world where everybody can offer money openly, the other stuff becomes even more important. So if you look sloppy, smell bad, or just seem "off", you're going to have a tough time getting people to trust you.

All you've got is a vision of your program and how it will use a kid, and your God-given ability to make people like you. al golden had some ability, Mario has a ton, and Bilbo has almost none. He's probably a good coach, but that's about knowing how to use the pieces he has, but he's a terrible recruiter because kids don't seem to like him much. And we all know how far good coaches who can't recruit make it.
 
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kryptonite said:
First off, I can't see you getting much disagreement about him failing around here. ****, I can't see any.

Second, you're spot on about his appearance. Recruiting is sales, and a lot of sales is about non-verbal communication. There's what you say and what you offer, but how you are perceived is absolutely important. As fans, we go on and on about the money, and that's very important, but in a world where everybody can offer money openly, the other stuff becomes even more important. So if you look sloppy, smell bad, or just seem "off", you're going to have a tough time getting people to trust you.

All you've got is a vision of your program and how it will use a kid, and your God-given ability to make people like you. al golden had some ability, Mario has a ton, and Bilbo has almost none. He's probably a good coach, but that's about knowing how to use the pieces he has, but he's a terrible recruiter because kids don't seem to like him much. And we all know how far good coaches who can't recruit make it.
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Exactly. Perception is important. After Mullen gave that press conference dressed as darth Vader, he would never be able to get anyone to take him seriously again. And he actually had a good record coaching including his miss st days. Billy has nothing else to offer that would make people overlook his sloppiness
 
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Getting Kinsler would be a major pull for us. I don't think he's a world-beater OL, but he's right in their backyard. It also would show we can recruit in any part of the state. Just look at the geographic diversity of our in-state commits thus far.
 
TakeitinDiaz said:
Not to get sappy all, but wanted to let you know how much I appreciate everyone here. Been stuck in a room the last four days with the rona and this thread has just kept my spirits up. God bless you all
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Feel better bud. I thought I was impervious to it like an ******* but it finally took me down pretty bad this summer.
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
You already know how much I hate the gators, always have, always will.

But I’m going try to give an objective opinion here, even though it is one that fits my agenda.

This latest revelation about Sling Blade, confirms to me that the guy is tone deaf, lacks good people instincts, and simply does not know how to lead.

How any good leader in their right mind would think that forcing his players to contribute money to an association, when they really don’t even have a salary, is insane. Even if they were being paid a salary, I would chafe at my boss telling me I had to contribute, most people would resent this.

He simply does not know his audience nor how to lead them. His instincts are all wrong.

Here’s something else that I continue to notice about him and I think is in part of reason why he leaves such a negative impression and why his recruiting is circling the toilet. Look at his personal appearance. It’s horrible. He looks unkempt, unshaven, and unhygienic.

You may think that’s such a silly point, such a minor thing, but it isn’t. He doesn’t understand the audience that he’s targeting for recruiting. I guarantee you that the mothers of these athletes take one look at him and form a negative impression. You have to understand the people you’re targeting, and moms aren’t looking for some scruffy unshaven goofball hick to lead their children.

Think of coaches that are considered good recruiters, and I’ll tell you one thing they have in common, is that they have a presentable appearance, and don’t look like unshaven dirty bums.

I’m calling it now, and I’ll leave myself open to all kind of criticism and receipts, I don’t care, this guy is guaranteed to fail. I guarantee it. The only thing I hope for is it it takes three or four years so he really drives that program into the ground. I hope he’s not fired in a couple of years. I want him to bury this program.

If you remember with Mcsharkfūcker, I called his demise before anyone else did. The first time I heard about him complaining about the so-called threats, I knew that was it - I knew he was going to be fired. And I said so on here. If anybody wants to bother looking that up, they can. It’s in here somewhere.

My gut, and the accumulation of these clues we are getting about his leadership, his appearance, his lack of success so far in recruiting, and his behavioral patterns, tell me this guy is going to slowly put a stake through the Florida gators.

I am so here for this.
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You pretty much nailed it. And while I'm not really a credible "you made a long post, let me do a short post" kind of a guy, allow me to do a Princess Bride summation of Billy's assets...

1. Supposed "great recruiting acumen" has now been exposed as coattail-riding of Dabo at Clemson and Mario at Alabama, and the results at Florida (thus far) are disastrous when Billy got a chance to drive the car on his own.

2. Pretty well acknowledged by even his biggest fans that he is not a great game-day coach.

3. Has shown a bizarre tendency to hire inexperienced coaches to coach at a famously-low-patience fanbase, outside of Corey Raymond, all the rest of his coaches have less than 30 years COMBINED at P5 schools (and I previously incorrectly treated Army as a P5 school).

4. Speaking of low-patience, the BEST things that people have said about Billy at Louisiana is that he does weird stuff, but you have to be patient, and eventually it will all pay off in the long run - BUT NOW HE COACHES FOR GAYTORZ BRANDZ NATION YO.

5. Billy does not even have a wheelbarrow and a holocaust cloak.

I realize that Gaytor sunshine pumpers will point out that he hasn't even coached a game yet, and he hasn't even lost a game yet, but I look at the Gaytor schedule this year and I see six to eight losses. So Billy won't even get the benefit of "hey, we're starting to improve" when he tries to get some last minute verbals in December and January.

FORTY. MILLION. DOLLARS...

All them Gaytor fans gonna be cancelling their Gaytor Guard contributions like
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