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Canes2082 said:
A loss to us will send them into a full tailspin I believe.

I mean if we are using gator logic then every SEC team is better than us right? Just by the sheer fact they play in the "SEC" so if they can't beat us how they can they expect to beat the other teams on their schedule?

The tears will be so bad that the governor will have to declare a state of emergency in Gainesville for flooding
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After a few days of tears a poster will say the game was just a "practice game" and doesn't count, they were just getting ready for the mighty SEC schedule they have to play.
 
mirvin88 said:
Dead @ the ranking discrepancy between 247 and Rivals. Rivals needs to just shut down.

"Huge recruiting win" beating out this elite offer list.View attachment 86889

:ibis-roflmao-sm3:

Why because he's from Miami and they are taking over the state?

Pretty convenient they get a fabricated 4 star to commit from Miami just before we land Rivers. Things that make you say hmmmm.

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This **** with FSU and UF is great to watch. Our 15+ years of **** have made us the wiser. These fans don't see it happening in front if their eyes and it's glorious.

This is the classic recruit we'd scramble for late and say but but but potential!

His tape is so bad. Classic leaner.

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Good God, I’m no Oline technique expert, but even I can tell this kid is beyond awful
 
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OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
Good God, I’m no Oline technique expert, but even I can tell this kid is beyond awful
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I've always believed that some schools from out of state will offer prospects in hopes of "thinking" that we are overlooking and will go after weaker prospects.

Because there is no repercussions when one of those schools does not accept their commitment and pulls their offer unlike us
 
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A Russian troll farm couldn't push more fake news than the Florida fan base. That collective group is the most prolific producer of fiction in human history. The love child of Swamp Thing and the Cash Me Outside Girl, writing fantasy novels in their basement and self publishing to 247 like they're under contract.
 
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flagator86 said:
Yeppers we were in it.
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Quick question to the most non delusional **** fan we have seen on here who may actually be honest and a pretty good guy except for the whole **** fan thing:

Do you guys really just not want Rivers anymore b/c you think he isn’t a Tackle and may end up at Gaurd (like your d-bag fans are trying to say now) yet just took a commit from a JAG OG in Janvier (b/c if you think he is a Tackle or even a better OG option than Rivers you are just as delusional as they are)?

Or is it just b/c he is a known strong Cane lean now and you guys are getting ahead of the tears and trying to not make it seem like we landed a guy you want bad?

He has been in every **** mock class/wishlist I have seen this year.
 
IndayArtHauz said:
A Russian troll farm couldn't push more fake news than the Florida fan base. That collective group is the most prolific producer of fiction in human history. The love child of Swamp Thing and the Cash Me Outside Girl, writing fantasy novels in their basement and self publishing to 247 like they're under contract.
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I don’t even know what you said but I know it was anti-gaytor so I upvoted it.
 
IndayArtHauz said:
A Russian troll farm couldn't push more fake news than the Florida fan base. That collective group is the most prolific producer of fiction in human history. The love child of Swamp Thing and the Cash Me Outside Girl, writing fantasy novels in their basement and self publishing to 247 like they're under contract.
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Normally I would be offended...but...I suppose you're correct.
 
tyrn said:
Quick question to the most non delusional **** fan we have seen on here who may actually be honest and a pretty good guy except for the whole **** fan thing:

Do you guys really just not want Rivers anymore b/c you think he isn’t a Tackle and may end up at Gaurd (like your d-bag fans are trying to say now) yet just took a commit from a JAG OG in Janvier (b/c if you think he is a Tackle or even a better OG option than Rivers you are just as delusional as they are)?

Or is it just b/c he is a known strong Cane lean now and you guys are getting ahead of the tears and trying to not make it seem like we landed a guy you want bad?

He has been in every **** mock class/wishlist I have seen this year.
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From all of what I gathered, we wanted him but just got out recruited for him. Any other stuff you read is just to save face and (mini rant incoming) what kills me is that some fellow Gator fans just can't accept that we lose recruiting battles just because we got out recruited on the trail. It happens to EVERY school but when we lose out on a guy we really want its because we lost to a team who paid for the recruit smh.

Just accept that we have a staff that has shown they can get the most out of the least but have trouble getting the best to come on board in the first place. If they couldn't consistently finish in the top 20ish in recruiting while at MSU despite being a top 15-25 squad while Mullen was there, then of course when they have to wine and dine and play the kiss *** game to a 5* or highly regarded 4* recruit, they'll struggle or fail to close the deal ASAP. Case in point....we had the Gator cookout and looked to have Chantz Williams all sewn up following that....yet it's almost a month later and he didn't pull the trigger. You can't have that if you tryna get back into the elite class of CFB. I'm not calling them crap recruiters but boy there is a HUGE difference between how recruits speak on their OV's or even their unofficial visit to a place like UGA as oppose to after they visit UF.

Last bit, well no, let me stop there cause I could go on for a while lol. But yes, we just lost Rivers because you guys did a better job of recruiting him
 
flagator86 said:
From all of what I gathered, we wanted him but just got out recruited for him. Any other stuff you read is just to save face and (mini rant incoming) what kills me is that some fellow Gator fans just can't accept that we lose recruiting battles just because we got out recruited on the trail. It happens to EVERY school but when we lose out on a guy we really want its because we lost to a team who paid for the recruit smh.

Just accept that we have a staff that has shown they can get the most out of the least but have trouble getting the best to come on board in the first place. If they couldn't consistently finish in the top 20ish in recruiting while at MSU despite being a top 15-25 squad while Mullen was there, then of course when they have to wine and dine and play the kiss *** game to a 5* or highly regarded 4* recruit, they'll struggle or fail to close the deal ASAP. Case in point....we had the Gator cookout and looked to have Chantz Williams all sewn up following that....yet it's almost a month later and he didn't pull the trigger. You can't have that if you tryna get back into the elite class of CFB. I'm not calling them crap recruiters but boy there is a HUGE difference between how recruits speak on their OV's or even their unofficial visit to a place like UGA as oppose to after they visit UF.

Last bit, well no, let me stop there cause I could go on for a while lol. But yes, we just lost Rivers because you guys did a better job of recruiting him
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I agree with your assessment.

Allow me to add a couple of additional points. I think there is a huge difference (and the recruits can pick up on it) between Mullet's baseless trash-talking style of arrogance and Manny's infectious style of ****y pump-up approach. Let's also not forget that UM interviewed Mullet twice for the head coaching job at UM and failed to make an offer to him twice.

When I was at UM, I was in a fraternity, and while the "recruiting" is a bit different than what takes place in Division I football, the psychological and behavioral approaches can be strikingly similar. When you are in the middle of trying to rush pledges against numerous other fraternities, you get the chance to observe both the targets (some guys like to have their asses kissed, some guys want honesty, some guys try to get bids from fraternities that are not the right fit because they perceive a challenge, etc.) and the people trying to "sell" their own fraternities.

To extrapolate a bit more, Mullet is the kind of guy who "rushes" recruits in a very arrogant fashion, acting as if everyone should be honored to get a bid from his fraternity, but even more than that, that his "approval" of a particular candidate should somehow convey greatness, and that he is a particularly good judge of this greatness. He's the kind of whitebread frat boy who you can imagine posing for pictures by wearing a white oxford, red tie, blue blazer, khaki pants...and then making the Rocafella "dynasty" hand sign to show he is relevant and down with the homies.

On the other hand, Manny is a guy who can quickly and sincerely connect with a lot of types of guys during a rush function. Manny isn't the tallest or strongest or fastest or best looking guy at the rush party, but he has the sincerity to make a strong handshake and learn a guy's name, where he's from, what he's majoring in, etc. Then, Manny can crack jokes, pull a few guys into a conversation, and leave a great impression. Manny is the guy that you wish you had 20 of during rush, that if you had more guys like him, you would have no problems getting a full pledge class, because he is a closer. Manny is the guy who can acknowledge that, hey, our fraternity may not be the defending Greek Week champ, or we may not have won the most intramural trophies, but that with pledges like you, the sky is the limit, and there are a lot of guys who want that chance to build something of their own.

I don't know exactly how Miami "outrecruited" Florida for Rivers, but I would imagine it is some combination of the above. That Mullet and his buddies acted as if Rivers should pick UF because of geography, recent superiority, and that an offer from UF should be some magical rose at the UF Bachelor Rose Ceremony. While Manny was a tireless ball of energy, telling Rivers all of the specifics about how The New Miami is changing the narrative, building for the future, and targeting the guys who can recognize the plan and execute on the plan. Manny was not scared to go outside of the SoFla comfort zone to "rush" a guy that he thinks will fit in at The New Miami, and he wasn't just chasing a pretty 5-star girl in California (with multiple prior decommits) to pump up his rankings.

There IS a difference, and I think the difference will come to be more recognizable over the next few years. There is a lot of familiarity here, Manny used to work for Mullet, Mullet used to work at UF as an assistant, Mullet interviewed at UM twice, etc. And when you are in a fraternity, and you know about all of the other fraternities because you are classmates with the other guys and you are active in campus events with the other guys, it gives you a good insight into the arrogance and overconfidence of other people, and how to create your own approach that is both contrasting and sincere.

The evidence is building. Mullet is chasing stars because he feels he needs to placate the Gaytor frat-boy fans and because he is insecure enough to think that is what will make him successful. And yes, you can be both insecure and arrogant at the same time. Often, insecurity is what drives arrogance. Meanwhile, Manny is just doing his thing, being his best self, embracing the good with the bad. Is Miami known for outrageous bling? Sure, create a turnover chain and arrive at a booster club event on a yacht. But he also knows how to connect to 18-year old kids today, he is great at being relevant with social media while avoiding the pitfalls of mocking the poses of the latest flavor-of-the-month rapper.

I've seen Manny up close. When you hear him talk about the prep for the UF game, how he brought the team to the same hotel where they will be staying in August, they had the same pre-game meal they will have in August, they did the same run-throughs they will do in August...you realize that THIS GUY is incredibly detail-oriented, that he knows how to take the same bunch of players from the depths of 7-6 to the consistent and sustained levels of excellence and dominance that he expects.

Meanwhile, Mullet is spending all of his free time devising flame wars with Kirby and UGa fans. And then, even worse, he tries to deny that he tried to flame UGa. Good lord, when Mullet does it, HE SHOULD OWN IT. It does him no good to make 14,000 day jokes and then come back and say that he never did it. What's next, Mullet is going to tell everyone that he didn't know what it meant to put his fingers up to his teeth in that photo?

Mullet is an insincere, insecure, arrogant whitebread-khaki-wearing-frat-boy who has lived on daddy's (Urban's) success for far too long. Mullet doesn't know how to do his own laundry, pay his own bills, or change the oil in his own car. Mullet lies to guys during rush week by telling them that UF is "top 10 in academics and top 10 in athletics", and his pledges are too stupid to figure out the truth. Mullet is the guy who thinks that his fraternity is sooo diverse because they have guys from Florida AND Texas AND California AND New York (while all the guys in the composite photos look incredibly similar). Mullet likes to tease everyone else with insults and nicknames, and then yell at everyone who "can't take a joke". Mullet likes to blame the guys who depledge his fraternity and claim that those losers were homesick "mama's boys".

Meanwhile, most guys like spending time with Manny, he knows how to both "work hard" and "play hard". And he knows how to both sell the vision for the future and lead people to that future.
 
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