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[ThomasM]

Wrong...It was Portis and a Brigade of other players who marched into Dee's office...and it wasn't so much they wanted Coker...the MAIN reason is because they didnt want an Alvarez type Coach with their Big10 mentality.

JJ was from an even more radically different system coming from the Big 8. How did that work out?

 

[OmahaCane]

all I know is Worsham and Restrepo look like divas. Yes, they work out at the IPF after hours, but it’s more of the “hey, look at me” videos.

gotta call it out. Moss didn’t do it. Johnson didn’t do it. Wayne didn’t do it.

these guys are not cut from the same cloth. Hopefully 20ER can whip them into being testosterone pumping Tyrannosaurus rex’s god dangit!

The means to do so was not there when they were coming up. No phones like we have now and no social media. It was a different time. If they came up today who knows what they would be doing.

 

[MiamiVice7]

**** internet must only exist in Miami...

Change the HC with a real one and watch this “culture” problem disappear. Be better parents and you’ll see how different “Millenials” can be.

My opinion isn’t limited to Miami. Do you think Miami is the only team with these issues?

There are only so many elite programs. And while this issue is hardly the only difference between those on top and the rest of us, I believe it’s one of them.

 

[The Franchise]

Because their players are focused on one thing and aren’t in a city full of distractions to get u off track. No coach is or can micro management their roster in the offseason..I’ve had this belief and numerous greats have pointed to player accountability being the main issue..u can ignor that if u want and ignore what Ed Reed has to say to continue to believe what u want..have at it

Their players are focused because their HCs are great leaders. Players lose focus and do dumb **** everywhere when there is poor character and leadership. Watch the last season of Last Chance U. Those guys were a mess in the middle of nowhere.

 

[The Franchise]

Mark Richt coached at Georgia a long time with never a mention of “bad culture” but he comes to Miami and half the kids he recruited are part of the problem. It’s more than just a head coach laying down rules.

Rick had all kinds of issues at uga.

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

Diaz is a culture problem himself. Dude is a goof, responsible for half the roster for 5 years & takes 0 responsibility for the culture he helped breed, which is that of quitters, he just passes the buck onto others.

Impeach this clown & the culture will magically improve overnight.

You may very well be right, but what is the downside with ER?

There is none.

And maybe, just maybe, ER holds up a mirror to coach shlthead and maybe he develops just a scintilla of self awareness about how he himself is part of the problem.

Can’t hurt.

 

[RangerGranger]

You may very well be right, but what is the downside with ER?

There is none.

And maybe, just maybe, ER holds up a mirror to coach shlthead and maybe he develops just a scintilla of self awareness about how he himself is part of the problem.

Can’t hurt.

I'm on a work computer and I'm a little scared to google 'scintilla'.

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

I'm on a work computer and I'm a little scared to google 'scintilla'.

Let me give you a clue. Many posters here have a scintilla of a *****. You can tell by how they post

 

[Instacane 1]

Yes they are. they are losing. it was clear from Ed Reed: you can have fun, you also have to win and do it together....

The current team is neither winning nor are they sticking together

While I agree with your point. The difference between Miami and Alabama, is Alabama has a great head coach that can lead and recruit enough talented players to overcome the immature problems that most all college players and teams have. We just don't have that coach at Miami.

 

[Samson Doyo]

Maybe more than just bags. The kids serious about their future go elsewhere, get paid and don’t have to deal with their “people” telling them how it is and how to do things. Maybe.

Go Canes!

 

[AtlAtty]

As a great coach once said: you win with 'character' … Not 'characters'

That sounds like JJ

 

[can4life]

Man these kids are gonna benefit tremendously by having ed reed in the building. This guy puts 110% effort in everything he do and it shows.

 

[TheEye]

He has a point about the 7th Floor Crew. However, Randy Shannon did his best to address it and it did not translate into wins.

 

[GonzoCane]

I always liked JJ's philosophy on scholarships. They are one-year renewables. Nothing is a given, man. At the end of the day, it's on the HC/University to decide whether or not it's renewed.

 

[Ethnicsands]

That structure and culture and all that stuff is the coaches’ responsibility. That’s why we harp on coaches so much.

At the end of the day, it’s the HC’s program. He sets the tone. He decides which players come here and which coaches lead them.

If you’re signing the wrong guys it is on you. If you’re letting **** slide it’s on you. It’s a results business. The successful coaches aren’t always crying about culture. They’re signing high character guys and leading them.

Folks around these sites have been hearing me say it for 18 years. We have been signing too many of the wrong guys.

And there is a ‘tipping point’ issue in teams and culture. You can have a few headaches or busts. You have too many and it tips over and blows up the culture, competition, etc.

And yes it’s about Hc decisions. Not stars in recruiting. Who they are. And not sure about saying ‘high character’ guys, just discipled guys who are willing to work. There are disciplined criminals and lazy priests.

Also, to your point, cultures require leadership, consistency values, and reinforcement. You could get all the ingredients right, but if the HC doesn’t lead and reinforce, it won’t work.

 

[Ethnicsands]

On what needs to change culturally

“It is not a complicated thing,” Reed said. “These kids just have to humble themselves. These kids are doing things—and I know it because I have been places and seen them in places they shouldn’t be—and I tell them go home and they are smiling and laughing and hanging out with their family members or people they grew up with who are telling them that they are [really good] and that is the problem. The problem is the people they are surrounding themselves with are people who are giving them that glory when they haven’t done anything. It is one thing to treat a kid to some food, but to have them in the club and buying bottles? C’mon man. That is not what it is about. It is about being with your teammates and having that accountability. I am not telling you to not have fun because we did have a lot of fun—but we did it together.”

When asked about the tipping point of when the culture went down

“I can be very specific and say it was the 7th Floor Crew stuff,” Reed said. “That was tragic for the university. These kids took what we were doing and took it to a whole other level and blew the school up with that nonsense. Granted, they were kids, but somebody has to hone in and be mature about it.”

a lot of y’all want to harp on coaching coaching coaching.,which is apart of it..but structure and player accountability are more important. He also hit on recruiting at a high level not just instate but finding the National talent.

The coach is responsible for all of this. That has been my point for 18 years now.

 

[Ethnicsands]

He has a point about the 7th Floor Crew. However, Randy Shannon did his best to address it and it did not translate into wins.

His best wasn’t good enough.

 

[Ethnicsands]

I will say one more thing on the general topic here - in business, building the bramd and defending the brand are different exercises, different mindsets, different capabilities, different teams. UM went wrong when it pivoted from brand building to brand protection. It’s been a textbook faceplant case study in unintended but obviously predictable consequences. We built a brand based on edgy innovation and counter-culture rebellion. We tried to become milquetoast. Predictable results ensued.

 

[305to954]

ROFL, but it still starts with who the headcoach is, these days you got to many headcoaches and coaches admiring the players on the team instead of doing their jobs. Its a leadership issue, anybody that grew up in the real Miami know exactly what im about to say, didnt matter how good you was or played, if you even gave a hint or seemed like you was bout to get the big head, the **** COACHES back than was gone and always checked that **** with the quickness. That's the problem now, just listen to the press conferences after games, most coaches mentalities are real flawed. I know its coach diaz first year as a headcoach, but got dayum, this **** hyped up one of the worst non-productive players on the roster damyum near all year in transfer tate, a **** that hasnt done **** in college but he runs to UM and all of a sudden now he has these mysterious and phatom "special packages", WTF is that. Than jw15 throw 6 td passes against one of the worst defenses in college football and coach diaz with his cynical mindset and has his chest poked out as trying say to us "see, now you guys are starting to understand why i picked" no ****, them 6 td passes didnt mean ****, how bout the 3 picks he threw against V-Tech, or how his low fooitball i.q, was on full display in that gaytor game.

I could careless if it was jw15's 1st game, if a qb is scramblin and runs straight towards the sidelines when he's that far behind the line of scrimmage instead of throwing the ball away, that's a qb that dont need to be at the helm of this team. Point being, we dont need nobody at UM getting praised for ****, including greg rousseau, we were 6 & 7, no matter who got decent stats, the whole team was 6 & 7, including jock rousseau, so coach diaz needs to cease and desist that losers mentality immediately!

I agree to a certain point..

 

[305to954]

The coach is responsible for all of this. That has been my point for 18 years now.

The coach is responsible for what the kids decide to do in their spare time? After a coach, strength coach has whatever structure in place, and our players are given the avenues in place for these players to get better..but they decide not to take advantage, that’s on the coach?