Financial Levels Which We Can't Compete On

[dfreshhookup]

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...on-of-62-million-football-complex-locker-room

Clemson's Board of Trustees approved Friday the construction of a new football complex, one Dabo Swinney said "will be the home of Clemson football for a very long time."

Per an announcement on the Clemson athletics site, the planned 157,000-square-foot complex will include locker rooms, coach's offices, meeting rooms, a dining area, and other amenities. The price tag: $62 million, to be "financed completely by the athletic department and IPTAY," the Clemson donors club, according to the announcement.

Construction is projected to begin in 2016 for a 2017 opening.

The complex will be directly adjacent to the Tigers' existing indoor practice facility and practice fields.

“It will allow our operation to be in one place, which will be a great benefit to our student-athletes, coaches and football administration," Swinney said. "This complex will be one of the best in the nation and will allow us to continue our pursuit to be among the best programs in the country.”

From the Post and Courier, why Swinney might be particularly excited about the complex's location:

Currently, Clemson's locker room and 80,000-square foot indoor facility are separated by Perimeter Road, meaning players dress at Death Valley and take a short tram ride to and from practice, an increasingly bumbling process considering NCAA-governed weekly limits on student-athlete practice time.

The Schwartz Center is about 1/5 the size of this proposed building.

 

[Dghustla]

Get a real coach. We have access to the best talent in the country. facilities are just an excuse we never had Better facilities than any of these schools regardless of era.

 

[brock]

And the people from UM think we have elite facilities.... They are dumb af

 

[MarshallCane]

Nice...Clemson has SEC resources and can recruit consistently with the big dogs. Maybe this will help them win the Atlantic lol. **** at least they're trying and they have to be tired of playing second fiddle to FSwho.

 

[WhatTheHell]

This is the only advantage we have over any other program.







It would be nice to get a coach in here that knows how to utilize it.

 

[dfreshhookup]

Get a real coach. We have access to the best talent in the country. facilities are just an excuse we never had Better facilities than any of these schools regardless of era.

It's not the 1980s anymore, **** facilities will cost you recruits. Kids aren't loyal to their hometowns. They want the newest and best. If this wasn't the case why do major programs invest hundreds of millions of dollars into their facilities now?

 

[Klamalama]

Get a real coach. We have access to the best talent in the country. facilities are just an excuse we never had Better facilities than any of these schools regardless of era.

It's not the 1980s anymore, **** facilities will cost you recruits. Kids aren't loyal to their hometowns. They want the newest and best. If this wasn't the case why do major programs invest hundreds of millions of dollars into their facilities now?

#1. Winners want to associate with winners.

#2. Losers want to associate with winners.

#3. Just WIN.

The rest is just fluff. Yes, some is necessary, but still secondary.

 

[dfreshhookup]

Get a real coach. We have access to the best talent in the country. facilities are just an excuse we never had Better facilities than any of these schools regardless of era.

It's not the 1980s anymore, **** facilities will cost you recruits. Kids aren't loyal to their hometowns. They want the newest and best. If this wasn't the case why do major programs invest hundreds of millions of dollars into their facilities now?

#1. Winners want to associate with winners.

#2. Losers want to associate with winners.

#3. Just WIN.

The rest is just fluff. Yes, some is necessary, but still secondary.

LOL @ this retarded 1970's 8th grade gym teacher logic when trying to get recruits in the year 2015.

 

[WhatTheHell]

We've always had awful facilities and played in a dump. This is nothing new.

It seems to be the way some are justifying Folden's latest failures.

 

[Consigliere]

ADAT

 

[Boarcane]

The complex will be directly adjacent to the Tigers' existing indoor practice facility and practice fields.

Can we get this 1.5 million dollar piece built, before we discuss a 62 million dollar building? lol

 

[The Franchise]

Folden's faqqots insist on continuing to force feed lame excuses to the retarded masses. It's truly insane how deep their crush runs.

 

[dfreshhookup]

Nine of the top ten teams last year had some major facilities upgrades in the last two years, but yes this is somehow related to Al Golden and not the state of the entire Athletic Department.

HURR DURR STATE OF MIAMI DURRRR

 

[GonzoCane]

We won in the 80's, we won in the 90's, we won in the '00's. We never (nor will we ever) had the facilities or fan base other schools have. Our advantage is the talent-rich SoFla area. We won because innovative and forward thinking coaches (schnellenberger, Johnson, Erickson, and one who was bright enough (for a year or two) to leave well enough alone because the guy before him was a GOAT recruiter and left him a Ferrari) all who recruited SoFla well. Problem is, there's much more competition for the kids now. Everybody wants them. So the Miami coach has to be the best at it to keep the kids home. He has to do what Mike Rumph was talking about. Send somebody over to a kids basketball game (****, send somebody over to a kids brother's basketball game!) The coach at Oregon can't do that with a Miami kid. It's about relationships and winning. You have to put the kids in the best position to use their talents and win, and then they can have a shot at the league. Then you have a chance at beating out T Boone Pickens money.

 

[dfreshhookup]

Folden's faqqots insist on continuing to force feed lame excuses to the retarded masses. It's truly insane how deep their crush runs.

Yeah what kind of ***got *** coaches and staffs want better facilities to recruit players right? Some ***** *** ***gots who can't coach.

I mean look at this coach I randomly picked, this ***** made *** boy who begged his program for upgrades:

Butch Davis says that the expansion of Kenan Stadium is critical from the standpoint of keeping up with other extensive stadium renovations going on throughout the Atlantic Coast Conference and the nation as a whole.

Thirteen years have gone by since the last major expansion project in Kenan---the addition of the Kenan Football Center in the West end zone back in the 1990s.

"If there was one major change in college football over the last 20 years it's the growth of stadium expansion---of weight rooms and media rooms---all the things that go along with the trappings of a big-time college football program," he said.

"Used to nobody really ever cared. There wasn't really an arms race to try to say who has the best facilities."

"I know when we started our stadium expansion a couple years ago, they had done a survey and like 60 of the Division I football-playing schools had done some type of renovation to their stadium in the previous five years," Davis added.

"If you're not careful, you look around and all of a sudden what you think is a fairly good situation, all of a sudden you find out you've got the worst facilities in your conference."

Carolina brought in Davis to turn around a program that had floundered since Mack Brown left for Texas after the 1997 season. Davis inherited a program that was short on talent at the end of John Bunting’s tenure but restocked the roster with some blockbuster recruiting classes. He also pushed for, and received, significant upgrades to Kenan Stadium.

The first phase of the Kenan Stadium Master plan was completed in time for the 2009 football season. A fifth floor was added to the Kenan Football Center, which contains additional space for the day-to-day operations of the football program, four gameday gathering areas, a larger video and studio facility and a state-of-the-art press conference area. The second floor was completely renovated for increased football meeting spaces, including bigger individual position meeting rooms and a larger team meeting room. Fourth floor renovations included additional office space for football support staff. The first floor players' locker room was also completely renovated.

Butch Davis and North Carolina athletics director **** Baddour discussed possible facility upgrades before Davis was hired as UNC's head football coach in November.

Total *****.

 

[cxl]

We won in the 80's, we won in the 90's, we won in the '00's. We never (nor will we ever) had the facilities or fan base other schools have. Our advantage is the talent-rich SoFla area. We won because innovative and forward thinking coaches (schnellenberger, Johnson, Erickson, and one who was bright enough (for a year or two) to leave well enough alone because the guy before him was a GOAT recruiter and left him a Ferrari) all who recruited SoFla well. Problem is, there's much more competition for the kids now. Everybody wants them. So the Miami coach has to be the best at it to keep the kids home. He has to do what Mike Rumph was talking about. Send somebody over to a kids basketball game (****, send somebody over to a kids brother's basketball game!) The coach at Oregon can't do that with a Miami kid. It's about relationships and winning. You have to put the kids in the best position to use their talents and win, and then they can have a shot at the league. Then you have a chance at beating out T Boone Pickens money.

Today, most of these kids want it all. They want to win, play in front of thousands of fans that worship them and if they can get a lil bit of pocket change, that's a bonus, but not necessarily in that order. Social media has changed how a lot of things are done in college football. Twitter and Instagram weren't factors when we wrecked shi t.

 

[Waffle Honcho]

Let's worry about beating Virginia and Pitt before we start worrying about competing with Clemson.

 

[NoVaCaneFan]

***** the facilities, I'll settle for a coach who can recruit and develop So Fla. talent and win the easy-*** Coastal Division, Winning Sells itself

 

[The Franchise]

Folden's faqqots insist on continuing to force feed lame excuses to the retarded masses. It's truly insane how deep their crush runs.

Yeah what kind of ***got *** coaches and staffs want better facilities to recruit players right? Some ***** *** ***gots who can't coach.

I mean look at this coach I randomly picked, this ***** made *** boy who begged his program for upgrades:

Butch Davis says that the expansion of Kenan Stadium is critical from the standpoint of keeping up with other extensive stadium renovations going on throughout the Atlantic Coast Conference and the nation as a whole.

Thirteen years have gone by since the last major expansion project in Kenan---the addition of the Kenan Football Center in the West end zone back in the 1990s.

"If there was one major change in college football over the last 20 years it's the growth of stadium expansion---of weight rooms and media rooms---all the things that go along with the trappings of a big-time college football program," he said.

"Used to nobody really ever cared. There wasn't really an arms race to try to say who has the best facilities."

"I know when we started our stadium expansion a couple years ago, they had done a survey and like 60 of the Division I football-playing schools had done some type of renovation to their stadium in the previous five years," Davis added.

"If you're not careful, you look around and all of a sudden what you think is a fairly good situation, all of a sudden you find out you've got the worst facilities in your conference."

Carolina brought in Davis to turn around a program that had floundered since Mack Brown left for Texas after the 1997 season. Davis inherited a program that was short on talent at the end of John Bunting’s tenure but restocked the roster with some blockbuster recruiting classes. He also pushed for, and received, significant upgrades to Kenan Stadium.

The first phase of the Kenan Stadium Master plan was completed in time for the 2009 football season. A fifth floor was added to the Kenan Football Center, which contains additional space for the day-to-day operations of the football program, four gameday gathering areas, a larger video and studio facility and a state-of-the-art press conference area. The second floor was completely renovated for increased football meeting spaces, including bigger individual position meeting rooms and a larger team meeting room. Fourth floor renovations included additional office space for football support staff. The first floor players' locker room was also completely renovated.

Butch Davis and North Carolina athletics director **** Baddour discussed possible facility upgrades before Davis was hired as UNC's head football coach in November.

Total *****.

Didn't UM just upgrade their facilities with the opening of the Schwartz Center, you whiny rummy?

All you whiny bytches with your money and facility excuses do is provide a crutch for your crush. He's not the worst coach in the history of the program because we don't have a practice bubble.

Our facilities aren't as good as Clemson or bama's. And their recruiting bases (prior to Folden letting them take ours) are nowhere near as good as ours.

There are trade offs in every area off life. UM is the natural beauty, and Clemson is the injected, spackled chick with bolt ons.

Our facilities are good enough to help produce a winning football team. Anything said other than that is just nerdy faqqots digging for excuses for their crush.

 

[corny cane]

We always hear about facilities and crap when we are losing. I remember hearing the same crap in the 90's when the Canes were struggling under the early Butch Era, except the program was bleeding money and dealing with 3 year bowl bans and major scholarship losses. Today the program is in good fiscal shape and has gotten away with a slap on the wrist. There is no reason other this inept administration that we can't compete with Elite teams. These idiots raised billions for the U, and the football program is getting ACC money, Adidas money, and several other revenue streams. We may not be able to keep up with the Alabamas and Michigans, bur we can pay coaches and have good facilities