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Memnon said:
1) I’m not a CIS Guru, I give my opinion just like everybody else does. I’ve never once held a gun to anyone’s temple & forced them to listen to me or agree with me. I actually encourage people to disagree with me as much as they possibly can.

2) I have never had an issue with running the ball, it’s about doing it in a smart way that doesn’t play into the hands of the Defense. From a personnel standpoint, Miami has not had the kind setup that would be conducive to a productive Offense while running that style; Look no further than 2019 & 2022.

3) Miami’s Offense is exactly what you guys want it to be right now, we run the ball & play condensed in tight bunch formations with a lot of 12 & 11 personnel.

4) @ me next time.
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I wonder how much this offense would be seen differently if even the only thing that changed was Cam wasn't getting any reps unless we were in 2 TE sets. Never mind having a competent QB... Any time we don't have an in-line TE, there is basically zero excuse for Cam to be on the field. It's not like we're running with a bunch of pace and not constantly subbing guys in and out. I think if everytime he was split out wide we had a WR - or Skinner or even Riley/Arroyo, but to a lesser extent - in I think things would feel a lot different. That is imo the more believable negative case case of Mario "meddline" that I have seen. Like some of the negative people are saying stuff like us using pistol is evidence of Mario meddling... as if we haven't legit been running better out of pistol. Or before he hired Dawson he made sure his run game was going to be more diverse - uh why is that a bad thing? lol My biggest complaint with Lashlee was that very lack of diversity in the run game that comes with solely running a shotgun air-raid spread offense.
 
Dghustla said:
Condense offensive set called by Lane, Riley, the Chiefs, or just about every other team that plays football. I think of how some “CIS Guru’s” skin is crawling. Or maybe it’s only caveman when we do it 🤷🏽‍♂️
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Yeah but they ain’t throwing screens to it over and over 🤦🏾‍♂️
 
Memnon said:
1) I’m not a CIS Guru, I give my opinion just like everybody else does. I’ve never once held a gun to anyone’s temple & forced them to listen to me or agree with me. I actually encourage people to disagree with me as much as they possibly can.

2) I have never had an issue with running the ball, it’s about doing it in a smart way that doesn’t play into the hands of the Defense. From a personnel standpoint, Miami has not had the kind setup that would be conducive to a productive Offense while running that style; Look no further than 2019 & 2022.

3) Miami’s Offense is exactly what you guys want it to be right now, we run the ball & play condensed in tight bunch formations with a lot of 12 & 11 personnel.

4) @ me next time.
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@Memnon Here's an honest question, one because I respect what you bring to the table and two, I get a sense you aren't a huge Mario fan.

For the "fyzical" haters, do you think there is another more consistent style of success than being physical?

Georgia is the best at it and Michigan is right there (regardless of the scandal)

Our national championship teams were all physical, especially in 2001. Butch instilled this into our DNA and it wasn't until we had a QB until we won it all. Our talent was exceptional, but we saw some of the struggles in 2003 with Berlin and Crudup at QB.

We are trying to install the physical culture into our DNA right now. Unfortunately, our QB is crapping himself and his backup is a True Freshman.

I feel like in the last 18 years we always find something to complain about. Coaches not developing, offensive styles, or our guys being soft, etc. (cold weather or just getting mauled by the Wisconsin or Kansas States of the world) We finally have the trenches, we just don't have a QB that can get us over that next hump.

Do you think we can be a championship team if we keep stacking talent and get the right players or do you honestly think Mario should have proven more in 18 months?
 
CanesDynasty said:
@Memnon Here's an honest question, one because I respect what you bring to the table and two, I get a sense you aren't a huge Mario fan.

For the "fyzical" haters, do you think there is another more consistent style of success than being physical?

Georgia is the best at it and Michigan is right there (regardless of the scandal)

Our national championship teams were all physical, especially in 2001. Butch instilled this into our DNA and it wasn't until we had a QB until we won it all. Our talent was exceptional, but we saw some of the struggles in 2003 with Berlin and Crudup at QB.

We are trying to install the physical culture into our DNA right now. Unfortunately, our QB is crapping himself and his backup is a True Freshman.

I feel like in the last 18 years we always find something to complain about. Coaches not developing, offensive styles, or our guys being soft, etc. (cold weather or just getting mauled by the Wisconsin or Kansas States of the world) We finally have the trenches, we just don't have a QB that can get us over that next hump.

Do you think we can be a championship team if we keep stacking talent and get the right players or do you honestly think Mario should have proven more in 18 months?
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Mario hasn’t done anything at Miami for me to be a huge fan of, as soon as he does, I will be.

For your second question, Miami was the “physical” team you’re speaking of in 2019, 2022 & is currently right now, so you tell me how it’s working?

UGA & Michigan is what everyone keeps parroting that we should be modeling our team & style of play after, well we hired Michigan’s former OC last year, so again how did that work out?
Yes, we’re trying to install that kinda DNA into the team now & again I’ll ask, how is that working?

I think the steps to becoming a championship team are far more complicated & in-depth than just stacking talent. There’s a lot of talented teams that lose every Saturday because it takes more than just having a giant OL. Iowa has consistently had an Elite OL for nearly the entire tenure of Kirk Ferentz & what exactly has that amounted to? Same with Notre Dame.

Idk what Mario was supposed to prove in his first 2 years, I guess it depends on what he was hired for & what his job is.

At the end of the day, we’re going to have to wait for several years before any of this will ever come to fruition, which odds are pretty low that it does. But I’m not against doing it the way you guys want, I’m totally on board with being like UGA & Michigan. Just let me know when I’m supposed to expect the results on the field to reflect the actual application of this plan.
 
Memnon said:
Mario hasn’t done anything at Miami for me to be a huge fan of, as soon as he does, I will be.

For your second question, Miami was the “physical” team you’re speaking of in 2019, 2022 & is currently right now, so you tell me how it’s working?

UGA & Michigan is what everyone keeps parroting that we should be modeling our team & style of play after, well we hired Michigan’s former OC last year, so again how did that work out?
Yes, we’re trying to install that kinda DNA into the team now & again I’ll ask, how is that working?

I think the steps to becoming a championship team are far more complicated & in-depth than just stacking talent. There’s a lot of talented teams that lose every Saturday because it takes more than just having a giant OL. Iowa has consistently had an Elite OL for nearly the entire tenure of Kirk Ferentz & what exactly has that amounted to? Same with Notre Dame.

Idk what Mario was supposed to prove in his first 2 years, I guess it depends on what he was hired for & what his job is.

At the end of the day, we’re going to have to wait for several years before any of this will ever come to fruition, which odds are pretty low that it does. But I’m not against doing it the way you guys want, I’m totally on board with being like UGA & Michigan. Just let me know when I’m supposed to expect the results on the field to reflect the actual application of this plan.
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In terms of stacking talent and building a championship team is more complicated than just that, look no further than 8-4. Their recruiting haul 2021-2023 is elite and they can’t win ****.
 
Memnon said:
Mario hasn’t done anything at Miami for me to be a huge fan of, as soon as he does, I will be.

For your second question, Miami was the “physical” team you’re speaking of in 2019, 2022 & is currently right now, so you tell me how it’s working?

UGA & Michigan is what everyone keeps parroting that we should be modeling our team & style of play after, well we hired Michigan’s former OC last year, so again how did that work out?
Yes, we’re trying to install that kinda DNA into the team now & again I’ll ask, how is that working?

I think the steps to becoming a championship team are far more complicated & in-depth than just stacking talent. There’s a lot of talented teams that lose every Saturday because it takes more than just having a giant OL. Iowa has consistently had an Elite OL for nearly the entire tenure of Kirk Ferentz & what exactly has that amounted to? Same with Notre Dame.

Idk what Mario was supposed to prove in his first 2 years, I guess it depends on what he was hired for & what his job is.

At the end of the day, we’re going to have to wait for several years before any of this will ever come to fruition, which odds are pretty low that it does. But I’m not against doing it the way you guys want, I’m totally on board with being like UGA & Michigan. Just let me know when I’m supposed to expect the results on the field to reflect the actual application of this plan.
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2019 we were physical? Ha, the opener against uf was a nightmare for our oline. We never dominated the line of scrimmage. Pretty sure Central Michigan pushed our **** in. And 2022 was a joke because you can't make a team physically and mentally strong in 7 months. We have improved that this year, but you dodged the QB dilemma we currently have.

You said you don't know what Mario is supposed to prove, but he is recruiting well and he's building what matters, the trenches! You can't win jack if you don't have that, so I don't see the issue with him addressing that first. I guess us Miami fans think we should have a national championship caliber team this year... maybe we are the problem for thinking it's that easy
 
CanesDynasty said:
2019 we were physical? Ha, the opener against uf was a nightmare for our oline. We never dominated the line of scrimmage. Pretty sure Central Michigan pushed our **** in. And 2022 was a joke because you can't make a team physically and mentally strong in 7 months. We have improved that this year, but you dodged the QB dilemma we currently have.

You said you don't know what Mario is supposed to prove, but he is recruiting well and he's building what matters, the trenches! You can't win jack if you don't have that, so I don't see the issue with him addressing that first. I guess us Miami fans think we should have a national championship team this year, maybe we are the problem for thinking it's that easy
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I didn’t dodge the QB dilemma, but how would you say we’re looking on that front?

I’m all for building the trenches, that’s what’s most important.

And you’re 100% right, we definitely are the problem for thinking we should expect anything more than what we’ve seen. It’s going to take time to become a National champion & that’s exactly what we’re building right now.
 
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Memnon said:
1) I’m not a CIS Guru, I give my opinion just like everybody else does. I’ve never once held a gun to anyone’s temple & forced them to listen to me or agree with me. I actually encourage people to disagree with me as much as they possibly can.

2) I have never had an issue with running the ball, it’s about doing it in a smart way that doesn’t play into the hands of the Defense. From a personnel standpoint, Miami has not had the kind setup that would be conducive to a productive Offense while running that style; Look no further than 2019 & 2022.

3) Miami’s Offense is exactly what you guys want it to be right now, we run the ball & play condensed in tight bunch formations with a lot of 12 & 11 personnel.

4) @ me next time.
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I've always been 100% in agreement with you. This offense no matter who is at fault is a disaster of epic proportions.
 
CanesDynasty said:
2019 we were physical? Ha, the opener against uf was a nightmare for our oline. We never dominated the line of scrimmage. Pretty sure Central Michigan pushed our **** in. And 2022 was a joke because you can't make a team physically and mentally strong in 7 months. We have improved that this year, but you dodged the QB dilemma we currently have.

You said you don't know what Mario is supposed to prove, but he is recruiting well and he's building what matters, the trenches! You can't win jack if you don't have that, so I don't see the issue with him addressing that first. I guess us Miami fans think we should have a national championship caliber team this year... maybe we are the problem for thinking it's that easy
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Nobody is arguing with building the trenches. You just don't have to run a bunch of condensed phone booth sets where you run right into the teeth of the defense repeatedly.
 
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Memnon said:
Apparently not.

I’m probably just not watching the games correctly or there’s something wrong with my eyes & brain.

The Offense is fine 🤷🏽‍♂️
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LOL yeah man. I feel your pain and frustration. Guys like us just aren't intelligent enough to grasp the complexities of the Bro style.
 
I think we all recognize the Canes need to start getting competent play at the QB position again. What TVD has been putting out there over the past few weeks is just absolutely horrible. You can't win turning the ball over that much.

That said, could the answer to having a physical offense that is dynamic be found crosstown with the pro team down here? The motion before each play, misdirection, and creativity McDaniel puts into the offense is pretty **** impressive. Shannon just seems to be caught in a rut with his play calling. I'm not talking about bringing McDaniel in of course, but rather a protege who is familiar with that system (this is assuming the rumor on another thread of Shannon leaving is true).
 
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Memnon said:
1) I’m not a CIS Guru, I give my opinion just like everybody else does. I’ve never once held a gun to anyone’s temple & forced them to listen to me or agree with me. I actually encourage people to disagree with me as much as they possibly can.

2) I have never had an issue with running the ball, it’s about doing it in a smart way that doesn’t play into the hands of the Defense. From a personnel standpoint, Miami has not had the kind setup that would be conducive to a productive Offense while running that style; Look no further than 2019 & 2022.

3) Miami’s Offense is exactly what you guys want it to be right now, we run the ball & play condensed in tight bunch formations with a lot of 12 & 11 personnel.

4) @ me next time.
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Big dog… this isn’t a shot at you.

We’re all gurus here.

I appreciate your take even when we don’t agree.

This was meant to be satire.

Really just pointing out our execution sucks.
 
I don’t know sht about football. I’m on here as a poorly educated but passionate fan.

I’ve seen a lot of videos by fsu, canes, and regular cfb dudes.

The conclusion from all of them hasn’t been Mario, scheme, o line, or receivers.

They all point to a broken TVD.
And it’s sad to think about considering how good he has been at times.

Yes, we grind out clock, yes it’s at times it’s predictable. But it’s also predictable to know that the opposing qb ain’t gonna hurt you at all and is likely going to help you by turning the ball over.

Idk how you can help a qb that can’t even hit a short route accurately.
If tvd was 100 percent then I could see the amount of negativity. But reality is I dont think we can make a healthy assessment of anything until a healthy tvd or anyone else is playing.

Like I’ve said before, I’ve watched almost every home game with tvd. He he never should’ve played the Georgia Tech game.

That imo is the bigger coaching mistake than the kneel debacle or anything else that anyone wants to point out.

How can you not want to put EW at home against a bad Georgia Tech team but instead you want to trot him out there for Clemson?

You probably would’ve had more confidence in him after beating Georgia Tech and we would’ve looked better beating Clemson with Emory having the confidence of already beating a p five opponent.

Now your starting QB is toast and you might have to put EW out there in the most hostile environment he’s ever faced in the biggest pressure cooker of a game that we have on our schedule.

Tvd should’ve been benched for GT unc and clemson.

You should be worried about his health first, then his draft stock. He still would’ve had games against significant p five opponents where he can show off his skill set. It makes no sense to try to show off his toughness. He’s already proven that.
 
Cribby said:
I must’ve missed all that 12 personnel by Andy Reid lol. Lane and Riley as well. KC is normally in 11 personnel 70 percent of the time or around that ball park.
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And last I checked they have one of the best TEs to spread out wide. Travis isn't exactly being asked to run block a ton when he is better beating defenses in the passing game.
 
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