Dorito Has Top 15 Defense

[The Franchise]

Oh goodie! Consigliere and DaEunuch83 are in another intoxicating battle. More please!

 

[JHallCanes]

I remember the Nick Saban record comparisons carrying some weight.

3 years ago.

 

[weownfsu]

Any coach who comes here sohuld be able to go 6-6 for four straight years because of Nick Saban at Michigan State.

 

[The Franchise]

I remember the Nick Saban record comparisons carrying some weight.

3 years ago.

Who is the numb skull who started the whole linking of Saban at Michigan State to Folden at Miami? Michigan State was a nothing program with no tradition and no recruiting base. It was a total nothing program. The better comparison to Miami is what Saban did at LSU or Alabama.

 

[AllAboutTheU]

I remember the Nick Saban record comparisons carrying some weight.

3 years ago.

Who is the numb skull who started the whole linking of Saban at Michigan State to Folden at Miami? Michigan State was a nothing program with no tradition and no recruiting base. It was a total nothing program. The better comparison to Miami is what Saban did at LSU or Alabama.

LOL @ Mich State having no tradition. They were down for a while, but you couldn't be more offbase. Per usual.

 

[bobbydigius]

I remember the Nick Saban record comparisons carrying some weight.

3 years ago.

Who is the numb skull who started the whole linking of Saban at Michigan State to Folden at Miami? Michigan State was a nothing program with no tradition and no recruiting base. It was a total nothing program. The better comparison to Miami is what Saban did at LSU or Alabama.

LOL @ Mich State having no tradition. They were down for a while, but you couldn't be more offbase. Per usual.

I think when he means tradition he means tradition of winning and The Spartans were pretty much always an after thought to Michigan in the state and a middle tier team in the Big Ten. So while saying they have no tradition might be false, it isn't that far off. So I don't get the whole 'you couldn't be more offbase' part.....

 

[The Franchise]

I remember the Nick Saban record comparisons carrying some weight.

3 years ago.

Who is the numb skull who started the whole linking of Saban at Michigan State to Folden at Miami? Michigan State was a nothing program with no tradition and no recruiting base. It was a total nothing program. The better comparison to Miami is what Saban did at LSU or Alabama.

LOL @ Mich State having no tradition. They were down for a while, but you couldn't be more offbase. Per usual.

This kook going to go back to the 60s looking for Michigan State's tradition. Tell us about the glory days of Duffy Doherty. In your world, Minnesota and Rutgers have great football tradition too.

 

[michaelaf]

We need to merge this with the quote of the day thread.

This is for our coaching staff from a true genius

"Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted."

- Albert Einstein

 

[TreOFive]

has been pretty darn good, and improving... but freshman QBs make freshman QB mistakes at inopportune times.. not to mention, right or not, our scared *** game plan at Lville was partly due to the fact that kaaya was a true freshman.



6–5–1 4–3–1
6–6 5–3
7–5 4–4
6–6 4–4
9–2* 6–2


Based on those records, this guy probably shouldn't have gotten the next job...

8–4 5–3
10–3 5–3
8–5 5–3
13–1 7–1
9–3 6–2

and even then in season 3.. 8-5 with a 5-3 record.... mind you no investigations or sanctions or anything at the second job..

Are you really using Nick Saban to make a point? Let's go to the Video Tape.

Michigan State

Nick Saban takes over a MSU team who is in trouble with the NCAA (https://web1.ncaa.org/LSDBi/exec/mi...&publicTerms=THIS PHRASE WILL NOT BE REPEATED)

Ignoring the NCAA Stuff

Michigan State didn't have a winning season in the last 4 years and was averaging 4.75 per season during that time. Also during that time, they went to 1 bowl game.

Nick Saban takes MSU to 3 straight bowl games, including one his first season. He never had a losing season, something MSU was accustomed to before his tenure. In his final season, he leads MSU to their first 9 win season since 1987.

LSU

Nick Saban starts at LSU in 2000.

Here is LSU before Saban

98: 4-7 (2-6)
99: 3-8 (1-7)

In year 1, he won more games than the two prior years and the bowl game. In year 2, he won the conference and the Sugar Bowl. Before Nick Saban, LSU never won the SEC Championship game. In year 3, he slipped a little but still won the division. In Year 4, he won the NC.

Keep trying DaU, you should go learn the definition of context

Context: the circumstances that form the setting for an event, statement, or idea, and in terms of which it can be fully understood and assessed.

CONTEXT.. so you know what it means, but refuse to apply it to golden? got it.

Your infatuation with Golden and your attempts to defend him is truly disgusting. BTW whats your role in the relationship, pitcher or catcher?

 

[Miami Nights]

I realized this the other day, outside of getting punished on the ground against Nebraska and gt, the defense hasn't been putrid. This should be our biggest concern if we're hoping for any changes.

You left out UL.

We allowed 31 points (without Parker), that is pretty chitty.

They played well at lville, the offense did nothing so they were on the field all night, 3 turnovers didn't help either. They essentially gave up two tds that game, the last one with a minute and a half left is whatever. Really just made the score look worse but the game was over at that point.

They played well. Okay, no expectations. They played like a typical Golden coached D. Couldn't keep points of the board, couldn't contribute to a WIN. No one is discounting the offense (which sucked) but the defense was a typical ALbortion. You can discount all the TDs you want for whatever false reasoning you choose to use. We should have done a lot better, no Parker their QB was terrible.

Year 4 and he isn't getting it done. Even discounting UL (which I'm not), there is still 28 points to GT and 41 to Nebraska. 69 points combined, not exactly a good sign in year 4.

those aren't terrible teams, some times, when you're not a great team, you're going to give up some points to other not so great teams. We need to stop acting like we're a great team, and Al is squandering tons of talent. As far as lville, when the game was in contention, the D gave up 14 points.. that's not bad.

Seems like the only people who support golden are the people who have a very limited knowledge of the game. This post makes zero sense. I mean l-villes back up rb ran fo a bill and they didn't have their best wr yet they where still able to do some things against us. Coaching was a big issue. You would think that a avg team missing its two best players would be shut down but not against Miami.

 

[Miami Nights]

I remember the Nick Saban record comparisons carrying some weight.

3 years ago.

They never carried weight

 

[Miami Nights]

So Al Golden is Nick Saban now. Got it, lrg.

you're actually going to start pumping that around the boards too.. then in two weeks people are going to think i actually said that.

the point is, saban had mediocre records too.. golden's record at temple has no bearing on what he'll do here.. and his record thus far, taking over for randy and having to deal with the ncaa stuff, isn't necessarily an indictment on what what he can do here. Does it look good so far? no.. has he over achieved? definitely not.

Saban had some avg records as you say but he also had some good wins mixed in there as well. He beat a pretty good michigan team his first year....he also wet into the shoe and beat number 1 ohio st. That's called flashing...something golden has never done. Your comparison is dumb.

 

[BigDikCane]

So Al Golden is Nick Saban now. Got it, lrg.

you're actually going to start pumping that around the boards too.. then in two weeks people are going to think i actually said that.

the point is, saban had mediocre records too.. golden's record at temple has no bearing on what he'll do here.. and his record thus far, taking over for randy and having to deal with the ncaa stuff, isn't necessarily an indictment on what what he can do here. Does it look good so far? no.. has he over achieved? definitely not.

Saban had some avg records as you say but he also had some good wins mixed in there as well. He beat a pretty good michigan team his first year....he also wet into the shoe and beat number 1 ohio st. That's called flashing...something golden has never done. Your comparison is dumb.

+1 why argue with fools mane...

 

[hcanes100]

****, Par doubled the post count in a 4 post consecutive spurt. Welcome to CIS.