Dorito Has Top 15 Defense

[L A M P]

The reason we're average to good is because of the coaching. This is why we lose to every team with a pulse.

No argument there.

 

[DaU83]

i'll try to explain it simply. We are by not stretch of the imagination a "great" team.. average to good is probably where we stand... sometimes average to good teams will play well, some times they won't.. we just happenned to get analy pounded on the ground against two very run centric teams... Lville, the defense played well enough to win, and the offense didn't.. that's the only loss i think we WOULDN't have williams had been the starter as opposed to kaaya...

The reason we're average to good is because of the coaching. This is why we lose to every team with a pulse.

Let me repeat:

1. We have 1 win against a team with 8 or more wins.

2. We have allowed an average of 37.67 PPG in every loss since 2012

3. We are 15-13 in the ACC

These are all facts. This isn't your retarded distorted these TDs don't count logic. This is ACTUALLY what happened over 4 years. We're not a good team because we can't get out of mediocre land.

In year 4, we're still a middle of the pack ACC Coastal team that is relying on Duke and GT to lose another game. We can't even control our own destiny because we can't take care of our business. The reason we can't take care of business is because we can't beat GT or UL.

Side note: Brad Kaaya has been pretty darn good. How can you use him as an excuse? If Williams was better (now that he is healthy), he would be the starter. In addition, UL started a first time starter (who blows) so your argument fails again.

has been pretty darn good, and improving... but freshman QBs make freshman QB mistakes at inopportune times.. not to mention, right or not, our scared *** game plan at Lville was partly due to the fact that kaaya was a true freshman.



6–5–1 4–3–1
6–6 5–3
7–5 4–4
6–6 4–4
9–2* 6–2


Based on those records, this guy probably shouldn't have gotten the next job...

8–4 5–3
10–3 5–3
8–5 5–3
13–1 7–1
9–3 6–2

and even then in season 3.. 8-5 with a 5-3 record.... mind you no investigations or sanctions or anything at the second job..


Point being, that sometimes even great coaches have average records.. really depends on the situation... and no, i don't think golden qualifies as a great coach.

 

[TRock305]

They played well at lville, the offense did nothing so they were on the field all night, 3 turnovers didn't help either. They essentially gave up two tds that game, the last one with a minute and a half left is whatever. Really just made the score look worse but the game was over at that point.

They played well. Okay, no expectations. They played like a typical Golden coached D. Couldn't keep points of the board, couldn't contribute to a WIN. No one is discounting the offense (which sucked) but the defense was a typical ALbortion. You can discount all the TDs you want for whatever false reasoning you choose to use. We should have done a lot better, no Parker their QB was terrible.

Year 4 and he isn't getting it done. Even discounting UL (which I'm not), there is still 28 points to GT and 41 to Nebraska. 69 points combined, not exactly a good sign in year 4.

those aren't terrible teams, some times, when you're not a great team, you're going to give up some points to other not so great teams. We need to stop acting like we're a great team, and Al is squandering tons of talent. As far as lville, when the game was in contention, the D gave up 14 points.. that's not bad.

This makes no sense. None of it.

i'll try to explain it simply. We are by not stretch of the imagination a "great" team.. average to good is probably where we stand... sometimes average to good teams will play well, some times they won't.. we just happenned to get analy pounded on the ground against two very run centric teams... Lville, the defense played well enough to win, and the offense didn't.. that's the only loss i think we WOULDN't have williams had been the starter as opposed to kaaya...

So, it doesn't bother you that the team got "analy pounded" by two run centric teams because the staff decided it was a good idea to stay in what was essentially a prevent defense in both games?

Also, the D only seemed good vs. Louisville because you're comparing it to whatever that was that Al sent out onto the field in the*bowl game. Low expectations don't make an acceptable defense.

 

[weownfsu]

Frosh qb if we finish 8-4 this year after losing are lbs and losing aqm starting brad ... Id say that is definitely trending up as we only were predicted to win 7 games by vegas ... And the talent coming in is only getting better .. Cap it off with a bowl win

If we finish 8-4 this year, we are trending down. We went 9-3 last year. 8-4 is worse than 9-3.

 

[weownfsu]

They played well. Okay, no expectations. They played like a typical Golden coached D. Couldn't keep points of the board, couldn't contribute to a WIN. No one is discounting the offense (which sucked) but the defense was a typical ALbortion. You can discount all the TDs you want for whatever false reasoning you choose to use. We should have done a lot better, no Parker their QB was terrible.

Year 4 and he isn't getting it done. Even discounting UL (which I'm not), there is still 28 points to GT and 41 to Nebraska. 69 points combined, not exactly a good sign in year 4.

those aren't terrible teams, some times, when you're not a great team, you're going to give up some points to other not so great teams. We need to stop acting like we're a great team, and Al is squandering tons of talent. As far as lville, when the game was in contention, the D gave up 14 points.. that's not bad.

This makes no sense. None of it.

i'll try to explain it simply. We are by not stretch of the imagination a "great" team.. average to good is probably where we stand... sometimes average to good teams will play well, some times they won't.. we just happenned to get analy pounded on the ground against two very run centric teams... Lville, the defense played well enough to win, and the offense didn't.. that's the only loss i think we WOULDN't have williams had been the starter as opposed to kaaya...

So, it doesn't bother you that the team got "analy pounded" by two run centric teams because the staff decided it was a good idea to stay in what was essentially a prevent defense in both games?

Also, the D only seemed good vs. Louisville because you're comparing it to whatever that was that Al sent out onto the field in the*bowl game. Low expectations don't make an acceptable defense.

It doesn't bother him at all because he's not a UM fan, he's an Al Golden fan. He'll blame losses on the offense without realizing that Golden is responsible for the offense too.

 

[TreOFive]

Gaggers are the worst...suffer from the same delusional disorder that the coaches have. They refuse to see the entire picture, rather they look for things that supports their distorted ways of thinking.

AG beats up mediocre team= we back/we trending/we have a top defense etc.....When we get pounded by Neb/GT= offense didn't convert 3rd downs/gotta bunker down/ignore the noise.

Really sad

 

[Consigliere]

has been pretty darn good, and improving... but freshman QBs make freshman QB mistakes at inopportune times.. not to mention, right or not, our scared *** game plan at Lville was partly due to the fact that kaaya was a true freshman.



6–5–1 4–3–1
6–6 5–3
7–5 4–4
6–6 4–4
9–2* 6–2


Based on those records, this guy probably shouldn't have gotten the next job...

8–4 5–3
10–3 5–3
8–5 5–3
13–1 7–1
9–3 6–2

and even then in season 3.. 8-5 with a 5-3 record.... mind you no investigations or sanctions or anything at the second job..

Are you really using Nick Saban to make a point? Let's go to the Video Tape.

Michigan State

Nick Saban takes over a MSU team who is in trouble with the NCAA (https://web1.ncaa.org/LSDBi/exec/mi...&publicTerms=THIS PHRASE WILL NOT BE REPEATED)

Ignoring the NCAA Stuff

Michigan State didn't have a winning season in the last 4 years and was averaging 4.75 per season during that time. Also during that time, they went to 1 bowl game.

Nick Saban takes MSU to 3 straight bowl games, including one his first season. He never had a losing season, something MSU was accustomed to before his tenure. In his final season, he leads MSU to their first 9 win season since 1987.

LSU

Nick Saban starts at LSU in 2000.

Here is LSU before Saban

98: 4-7 (2-6)
99: 3-8 (1-7)

In year 1, he won more games than the two prior years and the bowl game. In year 2, he won the conference and the Sugar Bowl. Before Nick Saban, LSU never won the SEC Championship game. In year 3, he slipped a little but still won the division. In Year 4, he won the NC.

Keep trying DaU, you should go learn the definition of context

Context: the circumstances that form the setting for an event, statement, or idea, and in terms of which it can be fully understood and assessed.

 

[TreOFive]

has been pretty darn good, and improving... but freshman QBs make freshman QB mistakes at inopportune times.. not to mention, right or not, our scared *** game plan at Lville was partly due to the fact that kaaya was a true freshman.



6–5–1 4–3–1
6–6 5–3
7–5 4–4
6–6 4–4
9–2* 6–2


Based on those records, this guy probably shouldn't have gotten the next job...

8–4 5–3
10–3 5–3
8–5 5–3
13–1 7–1
9–3 6–2

and even then in season 3.. 8-5 with a 5-3 record.... mind you no investigations or sanctions or anything at the second job..

Are you really using Nick Saban to make a point? Let's go to the Video Tape.

Michigan State

Nick Saban takes over a MSU team who is in trouble with the NCAA (https://web1.ncaa.org/LSDBi/exec/mi...&publicTerms=THIS PHRASE WILL NOT BE REPEATED)

Ignoring the NCAA Stuff

Michigan State didn't have a winning season in the last 4 years and was averaging 4.75 per season during that time. Also during that time, they went to 1 bowl game.

Nick Saban takes MSU to 3 straight bowl games, including one his first season. He never had a losing season, something MSU was accustomed to before his tenure. In his final season, he leads MSU to their first 9 win season since 1987.

LSU

Nick Saban starts at LSU in 2000.

Here is LSU before Saban

98: 4-7 (2-6)
99: 3-8 (1-7)

In year 1, he won more games than the two prior years and the bowl game. In year 2, he won the conference and the Sugar Bowl. Before Nick Saban, LSU never won the SEC Championship game. In year 3, he slipped a little but still won the division. In Year 4, he won the NC.

Keep trying DaU, you should go learn the definition of context

Context: the circumstances that form the setting for an event, statement, or idea, and in terms of which it can be fully understood and assessed.

She aint gonna get it

 

[weownfsu]

So Al Golden is Nick Saban now. Got it, lrg.

 

[JHallCanes]

**** near the whole defense is 4 and 5 star players.

I've never seen coaches do less with more than these ********.

 

[Pimp Tight]

**** near the whole defense is 4 and 5 star players.

I've never seen coaches do less with more than these ********.

Fly The F*cking Banner......

 

[TreOFive]

**** near the whole defense is 4 and 5 star players.

I've never seen coaches do less with more than these ********.

But but but...we have a top 15 defense, we are trending

 

[DaU83]

They played well. Okay, no expectations. They played like a typical Golden coached D. Couldn't keep points of the board, couldn't contribute to a WIN. No one is discounting the offense (which sucked) but the defense was a typical ALbortion. You can discount all the TDs you want for whatever false reasoning you choose to use. We should have done a lot better, no Parker their QB was terrible.

Year 4 and he isn't getting it done. Even discounting UL (which I'm not), there is still 28 points to GT and 41 to Nebraska. 69 points combined, not exactly a good sign in year 4.

those aren't terrible teams, some times, when you're not a great team, you're going to give up some points to other not so great teams. We need to stop acting like we're a great team, and Al is squandering tons of talent. As far as lville, when the game was in contention, the D gave up 14 points.. that's not bad.

This makes no sense. None of it.

i'll try to explain it simply. We are by not stretch of the imagination a "great" team.. average to good is probably where we stand... sometimes average to good teams will play well, some times they won't.. we just happenned to get analy pounded on the ground against two very run centric teams... Lville, the defense played well enough to win, and the offense didn't.. that's the only loss i think we WOULDN't have williams had been the starter as opposed to kaaya...

So, it doesn't bother you that the team got "analy pounded" by two run centric teams because the staff decided it was a good idea to stay in what was essentially a prevent defense in both games?

Also, the D only seemed good vs. Louisville because you're comparing it to whatever that was that Al sent out onto the field in the*bowl game. Low expectations don't make an acceptable defense.

it does, plenty.. but also realize our D, talent wise is not there yet, especially with the amount of guys that were supposed to be contributing that aren't playing or got booted from the program..

the D was good against louisville because it was.. 2 td's and a field through 85% of the game is pretty good... they tacked on a TD that made the performance look worse.. but 17 pts. when the game was still in contention is pretty **** good... we did NOT lose that game because of our defense.

 

[jakeman1]

• 1995–1997 – Beginning in 1995, Saban moderately improved MSU's fortunes, taking the Spartans to minor bowl games (all of which they lost by double-digit margins) in each of his first three seasons. From 1995 to 1997, Michigan State finished 6–5–1, 6–6, and 7–5. In comparison, MSU had finished 5–6, 6–6 and 5–6 (prior to NCAA forfeits) in 1992–1994.

• 1998 – On November 7, 1998, the Spartans upset the No. 1 ranked Ohio State 28–24 at Ohio Stadium. However, even after the upset and an early-season rout of then-highly ranked Notre Dame the Spartans finished 6–6, including three last-minute losses featuring turnovers, defensive lapses, and special-teams misplays, and failed to earn a bowl invitation.

I think Saban figured things out at MSU and took it to LSU, it's just that no one besides MSU fans really paid attention.

 

[DaU83]

has been pretty darn good, and improving... but freshman QBs make freshman QB mistakes at inopportune times.. not to mention, right or not, our scared *** game plan at Lville was partly due to the fact that kaaya was a true freshman.



6–5–1 4–3–1
6–6 5–3
7–5 4–4
6–6 4–4
9–2* 6–2


Based on those records, this guy probably shouldn't have gotten the next job...

8–4 5–3
10–3 5–3
8–5 5–3
13–1 7–1
9–3 6–2

and even then in season 3.. 8-5 with a 5-3 record.... mind you no investigations or sanctions or anything at the second job..

Are you really using Nick Saban to make a point? Let's go to the Video Tape.

Michigan State

Nick Saban takes over a MSU team who is in trouble with the NCAA (https://web1.ncaa.org/LSDBi/exec/mi...&publicTerms=THIS PHRASE WILL NOT BE REPEATED)

Ignoring the NCAA Stuff

Michigan State didn't have a winning season in the last 4 years and was averaging 4.75 per season during that time. Also during that time, they went to 1 bowl game.

Nick Saban takes MSU to 3 straight bowl games, including one his first season. He never had a losing season, something MSU was accustomed to before his tenure. In his final season, he leads MSU to their first 9 win season since 1987.

LSU

Nick Saban starts at LSU in 2000.

Here is LSU before Saban

98: 4-7 (2-6)
99: 3-8 (1-7)

In year 1, he won more games than the two prior years and the bowl game. In year 2, he won the conference and the Sugar Bowl. Before Nick Saban, LSU never won the SEC Championship game. In year 3, he slipped a little but still won the division. In Year 4, he won the NC.

Keep trying DaU, you should go learn the definition of context

Context: the circumstances that form the setting for an event, statement, or idea, and in terms of which it can be fully understood and assessed.

CONTEXT.. so you know what it means, but refuse to apply it to golden? got it.

 

[DaU83]

So Al Golden is Nick Saban now. Got it, lrg.

you're actually going to start pumping that around the boards too.. then in two weeks people are going to think i actually said that.

the point is, saban had mediocre records too.. golden's record at temple has no bearing on what he'll do here.. and his record thus far, taking over for randy and having to deal with the ncaa stuff, isn't necessarily an indictment on what what he can do here. Does it look good so far? no.. has he over achieved? definitely not.

 

[weownfsu]

So Al Golden is Nick Saban now. Got it, lrg.

you're actually going to start pumping that around the boards too.. then in two weeks people are going to think i actually said that.

the point is, saban had mediocre records too.. golden's temple at golden has no bearing on what he'll do here.. and his record thus far, taking over for randy and having to deal with the ncaa stuff, isn't necessarily an indictment on what what he can do here. Does it look good so far? no.. has he over achieved? definitely not.

Stop asking yourself dumb questions in every single ******* post, cot ****. Saban had medicore records the same way Randy had mediocre records. I guess Randy deserved more time too.

 

[Consigliere]

CONTEXT.. so you know what it means, but refuse to apply it to golden? got it.

 

[ajkreider]

We are obviously not a top 15 defense. We're better than average, that's all. But with a team that has so much offensive potential, that should be good enough against most teams.

 

[Consigliere]

So Al Golden is Nick Saban now. Got it, lrg.

you're actually going to start pumping that around the boards too.. then in two weeks people are going to think i actually said that.

the point is, saban had mediocre records too.. golden's temple at golden has no bearing on what he'll do here.. and his record thus far, taking over for randy and having to deal with the ncaa stuff, isn't necessarily an indictment on what what he can do here. Does it look good so far? no.. has he over achieved? definitely not.

Is this even English?

Golden's Temple at Golden, what is that? A shrine?