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Roman Marciante

Roman Marciante

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http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?abbr=C&collegeName=Clemson&abbrFlag=0&type=school

In an 11 year time frame (2019-2009) Clemson has had 7 top 25 scoring offenses while Miami has had ZERO.

Yet Clemson has not had a single first round offensive linemen drafted and only TWO offensive linemen drafted in that time frame.

Miami? Has had a first round offensive lineman and a total of EIGHT offensive linemen drafted in that time frame.

The offensive struggles blamed solely on the offensive line talent seriously took a hit no? I think it's safe to say coaching matters, development matters and system fit is imperative.
 
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Coaching and culture, for sure.

Those Clemson kids, they just drink up whatever the **** nonsense Dabo spews out. But you have to admit, it works. Whether it's money, the facilities, the town....something makes those kids really buy into the program and STAY when they could easily transfer out, go to the NFL, or in the staff's sake, take another job.

What the **** is Brent Venables still doing there? Jeff Scott FINALLY just got poached off that staff, but they've got good coaches and a good culture. How the fvck do you have 4 kids on the same DL all project as possible first round picks, and ALL of them come back the next year. At Miami, if you tell a kid he's allowed to watch the draft on TV he declares.

So it's absolutely coaching, yes. But he's also somehow built a culture there (which makes me sick as he's baptizing kids on the 50 yard line) that makes kids want to stay, makes coaches want to stay, and they are ALL bought into Clemson first and themselves second. I'm just not sure the kids in Florida are built like that, for the most part. Of course there's exceptions. But the kids don't even take visits after they commit, and they turn down first round money to stay in that boring *** town? And nobody has been able to pry anyone off his staff for multiple years? Crazy.
 
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Fawk_U Haters said:
Roman do you think we should have to out coach, out scheme, and out play call a team like Duke, FIU, GT?
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No we don't necessarily need to out coach these inferior teams because our players are considerably more talented. What we do need though, is to not get absolutely destroyed by the other coaching staffs. If this current staff wasn't getting completely lapped by the opposing coaching staff every week, then our talent might actually show and we would beat all of these teams that we're supposed to beat.
 
To be fair, Clemson has had 2 elite QBs in Lawrence and Watson in that timespan. Watson is pretty much a lock for his second straight Pro Bowl, and Lawrence will likely be a top 5 draft pick when he declares.

They have also had good college QBs in Boyd and Bryant, but obviously they aren’t in the same stratosphere as the previous two. Super frustrating that we can’t take advantage of the talent we already have on the team though. We have more than enough to post a top 25 offense.
 
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They have tough, hardnosed kids but the key is intelligence. They can communicate and work together. They understand how to pickup blitzes and pass off defenders.

Alot of stuff helps like coaching, culture but when you have Zion Nelson not knowing the snap count or noone picking up a rusher in a 4 or even 3 man rush - that's a brain power issue.

Then you have kids ******* around, not caring when McKinnie comes in to teach them, having all guards, having to protect for delayed, play action dropbacks with no tightend help and all the other obvious ****.
 
Roman Marciante said:


http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?abbr=C&collegeName=Clemson&abbrFlag=0&type=school

In an 11 year time frame (2019-2009) Clemson has had 7 top 25 scoring offenses while Miami has had ZERO.

Yet Clemson has not had a single first round offensive linemen drafted and only TWO offensive linemen drafted in that time frame.

Miami? Has had a first round offensive lineman and a total of EIGHT offensive linemen drafted in that time frame.

The offensive struggles blamed solely on the offensive line talent seriously took a hit no? I think it's safe to say coaching matters, development matters and system fit is imperative.
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Having one really big and strong OL is meaningless. The entire unit needs to perform.
 
Joe Thomas talked about the lack of pro style offenses in college and how pro style is so difficult for lineman because of the base talent it requires along with years of repetition. Do Miami lineman look great to scouts because they have 3 or 4 years of those repetitions and blocking schemes as opposed to the spread style that Clemson runs? Essentially being a quicker plug and play
 
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
Coaching and culture, for sure.

Those Clemson kids, they just drink up whatever the **** nonsense Dabo spews out. But you have to admit, it works. Whether it's money, the facilities, the town....something makes those kids really buy into the program and STAY when they could easily transfer out, go to the NFL, or in the staff's sake, take another job.

What the **** is Brent Venables still doing there? Jeff Scott FINALLY just got poached off that staff, but they've got good coaches and a good culture. How the fvck do you have 4 kids on the same DL all project as possible first round picks, and ALL of them come back the next year. At Miami, if you tell a kid he's allowed to watch the draft on TV he declares.

So it's absolutely coaching, yes. But he's also somehow built a culture there (which makes me sick as he's baptizing kids on the 50 yard line) that makes kids want to stay, makes coaches want to stay, and they are ALL bought into Clemson first and themselves second. I'm just not sure the kids in Florida are built like that, for the most part. Of course there's exceptions. But the kids don't even take visits after they commit, and they turn down first round money to stay in that boring *** town? And nobody has been able to pry anyone off his staff for multiple years? Crazy.
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Roman Marciante said:


http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?abbr=C&collegeName=Clemson&abbrFlag=0&type=school

In an 11 year time frame (2019-2009) Clemson has had 7 top 25 scoring offenses while Miami has had ZERO.

Yet Clemson has not had a single first round offensive linemen drafted and only TWO offensive linemen drafted in that time frame.

Miami? Has had a first round offensive lineman and a total of EIGHT offensive linemen drafted in that time frame.

The offensive struggles blamed solely on the offensive line talent seriously took a hit no? I think it's safe to say coaching matters, development matters and system fit is imperative.
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Makes perfect sense. OL plays as a unit and requires a solid blocking scheme and coaching of technique/adjustments.

Our schemes suck and the coaching is horrific. Butch Barry May be the best of the bunch and he still seems woefully deficient and also terminally bald.
 
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