Do you want Charlie Strong to be Miami's next head coach?

[John77]

It is inconceivable to me that Strong is a leading candidate. I understand what he did at Louisville, but his brief time at Texas is proving all too long for Texas fans. If you cannot field a respectable team at Texas than there is a major problem. We need a coach who understands how to win games, a game coach if you will, Charlie Strong is not one.

 

[FullyERicht]

We'll be flying banners Strong's first game.

Guaranteed.

If they hire Strong over Butch Davis, the entire fanbase will lose its mind. And I don't even want Butch first. But Strong is like a much ****tier, unproven version of Butch.

So this board speaks for all of the fan base? Outside of this board there may be a lot of people who think Strong can be successful here.

I think it is reasonable to assume a random poll on a major Canes message board can be used as a somewhat accurate reflection of the fan base.

I noticed you voted for Strong. Do you realize that he's done a poorer job at UT than Golden did here? And Golden took over a team that had a worse record AND was struck by massive scandal and sanctions. And yet Charlie still has done worse at UT. What exactly about him, other than "he looks like a good fit" makes him a desirable or worthy candidate for Miami?

 

[BeastMode]

We'll be flying banners Strong's first game.

Guaranteed.

If they hire Strong over Butch Davis, the entire fanbase will lose its mind. And I don't even want Butch first. But Strong is like a much ****tier, unproven version of Butch.

So this board speaks for all of the fan base? Outside of this board there may be a lot of people who think Strong can be successful here.

I think it is reasonable to assume a random poll on a major Canes message board can be used as a somewhat accurate reflection of the fan base.

I noticed you voted for Strong. Do you realize that he's done a poorer job at UT than Golden did here? And Golden took over a team that had a worse record AND was struck by massive scandal and sanctions. And yet Charlie still has done worse at UT. What exactly about him, other than "he looks like a good fit" makes him a desirable or worthy candidate for Miami?

I really just think it's a bad fit for him at Texas. Sometimes that happens to coaches. I don't believe he fits well with the good ol boys connection down there and it's impacting his skills in the field. Also he had a lot of dipatures of really talented players since he has been there. I think he would recruit very well in Florida and could have a dominant defense every year. The key for him would be his OC hire. That would be a make or break for him.

 

[FullyERicht]

We'll be flying banners Strong's first game.

Guaranteed.

If they hire Strong over Butch Davis, the entire fanbase will lose its mind. And I don't even want Butch first. But Strong is like a much ****tier, unproven version of Butch.

So this board speaks for all of the fan base? Outside of this board there may be a lot of people who think Strong can be successful here.

I think it is reasonable to assume a random poll on a major Canes message board can be used as a somewhat accurate reflection of the fan base.

I noticed you voted for Strong. Do you realize that he's done a poorer job at UT than Golden did here? And Golden took over a team that had a worse record AND was struck by massive scandal and sanctions. And yet Charlie still has done worse at UT. What exactly about him, other than "he looks like a good fit" makes him a desirable or worthy candidate for Miami?

I really just think it's a bad fit for him at Texas. Sometimes that happens to coaches. I don't believe he fits well with the good ol boys connection down there and it's impacting his skills in the field. Also he had a lot of dipatures of really talented players since he has been there. I think he would recruit very well in Florida and could have a dominant defense every year. The key for him would be his OC hire. That would be a make or break for him.

LOL where do i begin. First of all what is a dipature?

There is no such thing as a "fit". But I finally understand the reasoning behind this incredibly absurd excuse. The excuse is that since Charlie is black, and Texas boosters are mostly white Southerners, it is somehow making him incapable of coaching on the field and in practice. It is somehow preventing him from landing players, 90% of whom are black.

I find this excuse to be appalling, bc it implies that the fans and boosters at UT are racists. Austin is as liberal as San Francisco. I also find it absurd that you believe that b/c Miami is an urban area, he should be given greater respect b/c of his skin color. You know who was well connected in Florida, and was a BETTER DC than Charlie, and who was by your standards a perfect "fit" based on his upbringing and skin color? Randy Shannon. Tell me, what about Randy made him not a "fit". Randy is ten times the "fit" as Strong, but like Strong, can't handle a major program.

Nothing you mentioned in your post has anything to do with football, coaching, his bottom of the barrel offense and defense. Nothing.

And finally: Al Golden did a better job at a much big "mess" than Charlie Strong, and I consider Al to be the worst coach who I've ever seen here. Are you saying Al's problem is that he wasn't black? That Al just wasn't a "fit" b/c of his skin color?

 

[DiegoCane]

We'll be flying banners Strong's first game.

Guaranteed.

If they hire Strong over Butch Davis, the entire fanbase will lose its mind. And I don't even want Butch first. But Strong is like a much ****tier, unproven version of Butch.

So this board speaks for all of the fan base? Outside of this board there may be a lot of people who think Strong can be successful here.

I think it is reasonable to assume a random poll on a major Canes message board can be used as a somewhat accurate reflection of the fan base.

I noticed you voted for Strong. Do you realize that he's done a poorer job at UT than Golden did here? And Golden took over a team that had a worse record AND was struck by massive scandal and sanctions. And yet Charlie still has done worse at UT. What exactly about him, other than "he looks like a good fit" makes him a desirable or worthy candidate for Miami?

I really just think it's a bad fit for him at Texas. Sometimes that happens to coaches. I don't believe he fits well with the good ol boys connection down there and it's impacting his skills in the field. Also he had a lot of dipatures of really talented players since he has been there. I think he would recruit very well in Florida and could have a dominant defense every year. The key for him would be his OC hire. That would be a make or break for him.

He hasn't put his OCs in position to succeed yet in 6 years. In fact, he has had 2 debacles in 6 years, one with Mike Sanford (who was the OC under Urban at Utah) at UL and one with Shawn Watson this year at Texas. If you don't know about those situations look them up.

Strong is an absolute nightmare with offenses, beyond terrible.

 

[FullyERicht]

I think from now on when posters read the word "fit" they should translate it to "he's black". It's pretty obvious that's what they mean.

 

[Awsi Dooger]

You guys are nuts to be so negative about Strong. It would be an excellent hire, certainly far superior to Butch Davis. He checks the boxes in so many categories that Al Golden never threatened.

It's a lousy fit at Texas. We should recognize that and take advantage of his lowered value, not overreact and run away. You guys must have sold the biotech stocks when they were at 2015 panic bottom a couple of months ago.

There have been flashes of brilliance. That's one category Golden never managed. Strong took a massive lead as a huge underdog in a BCS game while upsetting an SEC power. Even this year he has a dominant win over Oklahoma, a huge rival and perhaps the best team in the Big 12.

I love defensive intensity. Louisville in 2013 was first nationally in yards allowed per game, third nationally in yards allowed per play, gave up only 6.0 yards per pass attempt, and surrendered only 8 touchdown passes in 13 games. That 8 touchdown passes allowed was fewer than any of the other 123 major college teams.

Here's the absolute hilarity: I guarantee there are posters on this forum and specifically in this thread who thought Miami would win that 2013 bowl game against Louisville -- despite those defensive numbers -- and now are ridiculing Charlie Strong toward our coaching vacancy. Now that's quite a parlay. Why be wrong at the door only, when I can carry it around with me?

Those Louisville defenders he recruited were still wreaking havoc in 2014, and showed up in bunches in the early rounds of both the 2014 and 2015 NFL drafts.

Big 12 offenses are problematic to defend. Strong and Bedford have had mixed results. It was overlooked last season that Texas soared defensively compared to Mack Brown's final season in 2013. The Longhorns finished 8th in yards allowed per play, which is **** tough to accomplish in that league. There were positive indications late in the season then the bowl debacle against Arkansas seemed to carry over to this year. Strong seemed to overreact to fan base anxiety after the blowout loss at Notre Dame. Many staff changes.

Still the big outings are there. Texas held Oklahoma to by far its lowest yardage output of 2015 and Oklahoma State to its second lowest. Texas very nearly upset both of those teams, which are currently in serious contention for Final Four berths. If so, the current dialog would not be the same. Oklahoma State tied the game inside 2 minutes after a stupid unsportsmanlike penalty against Strong set up the field goal, and then won the game in the final seconds after a shanked 10 yard punt.

If we hired Strong I suspect we would steal prized recruits in the late going, instead of so many of them finding every excuse to bolt.

I'm not claiming he's a miracle worker. Our stadium would remain.

 

[canes41590]

We'll be flying banners Strong's first game.

Guaranteed.

If they hire Strong over Butch Davis, the entire fanbase will lose its mind. And I don't even want Butch first. But Strong is like a much ****tier, unproven version of Butch.

So this board speaks for all of the fan base? Outside of this board there may be a lot of people who think Strong can be successful here.

I think it is reasonable to assume a random poll on a major Canes message board can be used as a somewhat accurate reflection of the fan base.

I noticed you voted for Strong. Do you realize that he's done a poorer job at UT than Golden did here? And Golden took over a team that had a worse record AND was struck by massive scandal and sanctions. And yet Charlie still has done worse at UT. What exactly about him, other than "he looks like a good fit" makes him a desirable or worthy candidate for Miami?

Please don't compare him to Golden. Strong won a BCS bowl game and had an 11 and 12 win season. Golden never came close to that. Strong would be a good hire for us. I would love to have Butch back, but I would be happy with strong as well.

 

[FullyERicht]

Ah there we have it another person with a "fit" excuse. So just to remind the board, that is translated into: he's black.

 

[FullyERicht]

We'll be flying banners Strong's first game.

Guaranteed.

If they hire Strong over Butch Davis, the entire fanbase will lose its mind. And I don't even want Butch first. But Strong is like a much ****tier, unproven version of Butch.

So this board speaks for all of the fan base? Outside of this board there may be a lot of people who think Strong can be successful here.

I think it is reasonable to assume a random poll on a major Canes message board can be used as a somewhat accurate reflection of the fan base.

I noticed you voted for Strong. Do you realize that he's done a poorer job at UT than Golden did here? And Golden took over a team that had a worse record AND was struck by massive scandal and sanctions. And yet Charlie still has done worse at UT. What exactly about him, other than "he looks like a good fit" makes him a desirable or worthy candidate for Miami?

Please don't compare him to Golden. Strong won a BCS bowl game and had an 11 and 12 win season. Golden never came close to that. Strong would be a good hire for us. I would love to have Butch back, but I would be happy with strong as well.

Strong won 11 games in a lower division school. The American conference. Just like Al won 9 games in the MAC. Who cares? What Strong has done at a P5 program is notably worse than what Al did. And Miami was twice the cluster**** that Texas was.

 

[TheUx5]

NOPE

 

[Spidercane]

It is inconceivable to me that Strong is a leading candidate. I understand what he did at Louisville, but his brief time at Texas is proving all too long for Texas fans. If you cannot field a respectable team at Texas than there is a major problem. We need a coach who understands how to win games, a game coach if you will, Charlie Strong is not one.

 

[canesupremacy]

I have to agree, Austin is a very liberal city. If Strong didnt fit, it is because he failed as a coach

 

[brock]

You have to look at what is wrong with Miami football.... We are the worst penalized team in all of football.... NFL and college included. Our defense has fielded 3 of the worst defenses in Miami history in the past 4 years... Charlie is a disciplinarian and will immediately fix that much like how Butch Davis or schiano would. He would bring in talent especially at Miami and in other parts of Florida where he recruits best. Outside of Butch Davis who is a better talent evaluator in football right now? No one. I don't want to hear Saban anyone can make NFL prospects with the 5 star amount of recruits he has. Teddy excluded he put a numerous amount of 3stars or lower into the NFL. Think about what he would do with some of the more talented area recruits he would get being at Miami alone. With him our defense will be back playing like Miami...

 

[Dan E. Dangerously]

I voted no, but only because "**** no," "**** no," and strauzer weren't afforded to me as options.

 

[Canesfan1899]

I would be extremely disappointed if Strong is the best we can come up with.

 

[Tad Footeball]

Ah there we have it another person with a "fit" excuse. So just to remind the board, that is translated into: he's black.

I find it quite racist when people insinuate that Strong couldn't succeed somewhere BECAUSE he's black. "No no Charlie. You come over here where I think you'll do better.". That's a pretty dangerous mindset and one based at minimum on a complete fallacy. Surrrrre, a Sumlin or Shaw or even a Babers would have them end up not even being bowl eligible this year? Strong had his shot and he blew it. It had nothing to do with any good ol boys or the exaggerated poor state that Brown left the program in.

 

[kccanefan]

We have about 55 dumb@$$es currently voting yes. Jesus, some of our fans.

 

[4th-and-14]

Please shoot the next person who uses the "fit" excuse.

Can somebody give me one example in CF history of a coach who was absolute garbage at one major program, but then was immediately (i.e., not several years later after remaking himself) great at another major?

And I love the post above about how he is worse at UT (with all of its advantages) than AG was at UM (with all of its problems). That is case f'in closed!!!

 

[grogz26]

If you poll fan boards everyone will just throw Butch in your face and dismiss everyone else