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dline created only 7 qb pressures

Canedude08 said:
I’m convinced some of you can’t stand it when this program has good vibes. We all admit that this team has work to do, mostly because EVERY SINGLE TEAM IN THE COUNTRY HAS SOMETHING TO WORK ON. That said, the constant harping on things without sensible context is weird. The DL was stout against the run, and basically forced Stanford to have a gameplan of “Run as fast as you can away from the pressure or tackle who you are supposed to block”, but our “Fans” are acting like this DL didn’t flash. It’s WEEK ONE AND MIAMI GAVE UP 6 POINTS TO A P4 OPPONENT, ON THE ROAD.
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But according to some on.cis the sky is falling
 
Canedude08 said:
I’m convinced some of you can’t stand it when this program has good vibes. We all admit that this team has work to do, mostly because EVERY SINGLE TEAM IN THE COUNTRY HAS SOMETHING TO WORK ON. That said, the constant harping on things without sensible context is weird. The DL was stout against the run, and basically forced Stanford to have a gameplan of “Run as fast as you can away and tackle all rushers ”, but our DL was terrible…
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some of us, mario included, understand that despite winning 1 game against a below average stanford team, we still have things to improve on if we want to win a national championship.

we also would rather talk about those things instead of just repeating how awesome we are over and over again.

there are other threads for patting yourself on the back if that’s your thing, stick to that.
 
Stats02 said:
Totally inaccurate recorded qb pressures for most of these teams. Who is recording these "pressures" by the d-line? There is no way we only had 7 and FSU had 38. NMSU threw the ball 43 times, that means FSU's d-line pressured them on all but 5 of those attempts. BS!

I watched the game. While FSU's d-line did have more qb pressures against NMSU than we did against Stanford, it was not that much of a discrepancy. I can see FSU's statisticians making up numbers for them. If the d-lineman gets within 5 yards of the qb before he attempts to throw, then it's a qb pressure.
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This is stats for us vs fsu last year. Basically murdered them. No charges filed.
 
LuCane said:
This is a meaningless raw stat.

When teams move the pocket, waggle, and quick pass, a raw pressure data point means next to nothing.

We still need to adjust to it, but the isolated stat doesn't prove much.
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Exactly. I'd be more alarmed if we only had a handful of pressures, and gave up 30 points. We gave up 6. Their plan was to get the ball out quick to negate our pass rush, much like Louisville did last year. Difference is, we appeared to be ready for that. We didn't send so many blitzes that were never going to get there anyway. We kept everything in front of us.
 
Hurricajun said:
This is stats for us vs fsu last year. Basically murdered them. No charges filed.
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Oh, gotcha. That makes sense now. I just glanced at the list and thought this was qb pressures for all these teams' 1st game this year. Was wondering why some of those teams were on this list. Appreciate it.
 
Stingarov said:
Blount & Lightfoot upped their game, especially Blount.

MFer had a wedgie sack basically.
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Yeah, Blount manhandled Warren in that sack. without the insane strength it takes to bring a 220+ lb man down by his Jersey, i’m pretty certain Stanford gets the first down on that play
 
I am not trippin yet. The run fits were great they played disciplined football


Leave me alone that’s my excuse for now
 
DerekDohrman said:
some of us, mario included, understand that despite winning 1 game against a below average stanford team, we still have things to improve on if we want to win a national championship.

we also would rather talk about those things instead of just repeating how awesome we are over and over again.

there are other threads for patting yourself on the back if that’s your thing, stick to that.
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1) None of us are Mario Cristobal or directly involved with the program(IE Employed by the program), so we don't need to be overly critical after a big win. I expect Mario to be up on things, mostly because he is tasked with keeping a talented team focused. He's going to look for things to improve upon, which is what good coaches do.

2) There's a difference between minor critique(Which makes a ton of sense after a win) and what I'm reading on this board. If I didn't know any better, Miami was in a dogfight with Stanford, with Stanford ramming the ball down our throats. Outside of some impressive throws(Many of them under pressure)from a QB with a bright future, Stanford didn't do much offensively. This DL will continue to improve, we saw flashes of what it could be, but nothing is going to be optimal week one. In fact, you don't want your team playing their best ball of the season in Week 1. Nuance, nuance, nuance. Then again, it's my fault for expecting level headed analysis on this board.
 
I’m glad we won the game, but im also allowed to analyze what I saw. The team performed good overall, I’d just like to see us get more pressure on the QB, I know the Oline will gel as the season progresses. I also think we have the best QB in the nation.
 
Calinative said:
I've been saying this but Pound for Pound, Lightfoot is quite strong and impressive against the run. Wish Damon Wilson at like 15lbs heavier was as strong at the POA against the run as him, if he is, We're good. Blount is strong against the Run imo. Still tbd whether he can actually contribute against the pass FROM THE EDGE. Losing Lowe really ***** us, but Scroggins got a lot of PT. Hopefully Charles gets more rotation too cause we will need him this seasons for sure. Was surprised to barely see Pickett. Think Keona Davis was mostly playing inside, he's probably too big to be anything more than 5tech or inside. Wiley was dropping down to the wide 9ish a few times too.

The thing is Wilson and Lightfoots strength will absolutely be pure pass rush. And with our offense, teams WILL pass against us more than they had to last year. In a track meet, our Dline will dominate in the long-run imo.
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I don’t think weight is wilson issue tbh, he just has to be more intentional with his pass rush plan
 
ageezy said:
shoutout to shodell ... in comparison
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Great defenses don’t have to lead the country in sacks. I think that’s where some people are getting way too caught up in one particular stat and got use to one style of play.

Look at Georgia’s 2021 national championship defense. That’s considered one of the best defenses we’ve seen in recent college football. They finished No. 1 in scoring defense, allowing only 10.2 points per game, but finished 7th nationally in sacks with 49. They weren’t the best defense in the country because they led the nation in sacks. They were the best defense because offenses couldn’t consistently move the football or score against them.

Then look at the 2023 Michigan Wolverines. That’s another defense everybody remembers. They went 15-0, won the national championship and finished No. 1 in the country in scoring defense at just 10.4 points per game. That defense was dominant because they controlled games. They stopped the run, limited explosive plays, made quarterbacks uncomfortable and forced offenses to consistently execute against them.

Last year’s defense had its identity. This year’s defense may have a different one. The question isn’t whether they can reproduce last year’s sack numbers.

The question is whether they can consistently make opposing offenses miserable.
 
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