DJ Ivey last night

[Saviorcane]

Lack of speed?
He ran in 5 track meets in 2016 and did not run this year. As a sophomore he did rather well for 400m. Each meet he ran in he was progressively faster. He was in that speed/growth development phase and no doubt much faster now.

Demitrius Ivey (10th).... 3rd-place......400m.... 51.78 PR..... Apr 19,2016...... FHSAA 4A District 16

He also finished 5th in the FHSAA 4A Region 4 meet with a triple jump of over 43 feet that same year. All of those that were ahead of him were seniors and juniors. Many sophomores who jump 43'+ end up meeting the national HS elite standard of 45'. The triple jump shows explosion.

Triple jump was the 19th best in the state of Florida for sophomores

How much correlation is there between a good 400m time and football speed?

Not a lot. 400 is an endurance sprint, and a **** near 52 is an ok time, but not a good time.

Even a 100m can be deceiving. Look at Bolt, he rarely jumps out to an early lead, but always finishes well ahead. Other sprinters have better 60m times than he does, definitely better 40 times. To me, a short shuttle is a better score of football speed. 3-cone, shuttle, 10 yd split, those are what matters.

I was wondering why they don't run the 400m at the NFL combine.

Rich Eisen ran the 400m in 4 hours and 12 minutes.

 

[Miami Nights]

Lack of speed?
He ran in 5 track meets in 2016 and did not run this year. As a sophomore he did rather well for 400m. Each meet he ran in he was progressively faster. He was in that speed/growth development phase and no doubt much faster now.

Demitrius Ivey (10th).... 3rd-place......400m.... 51.78 PR..... Apr 19,2016...... FHSAA 4A District 16

He also finished 5th in the FHSAA 4A Region 4 meet with a triple jump of over 43 feet that same year. All of those that were ahead of him were seniors and juniors. Many sophomores who jump 43'+ end up meeting the national HS elite standard of 45'. The triple jump shows explosion.

Triple jump was the 19th best in the state of Florida for sophomores

How much correlation is there between a good 400m time and football speed?

How much correlation is there between any track event and football speed. Who runs in a straight line from a sprinters crouch on a football field? No sense going after this guy CarolCity as he is just posting some track events as there has been no Nike on him
The one guy that says look at the film against top players has about he best correlation.

That was to the point and precise! You stuck it up the asses of a couple of people on that post!

He didn't stick it up to chit boss. Like anything it depends on the player. Some guys are fast but still sorry football players.(terell Walden, AKEEM JOLLA) Speed is just one part of ones game. It isn't coincidence that the best players are also fast. I mean, you can't be that *****. stupid.

You look at a prospect and say ok can he play? Can he run? Speed can be varied in a couple few different ways. Track times of course, who he's playing against and performing against guys with known speed etc.

You can be a good/great football player but if you don't have the speed your game will not translate ( Joe yearby, Charlie Jones etc.). Those two players are serviceable types at this level but most championship teams have as game breakin NFL type rb. Have teams won championships with slow rb's? Yea Polly but they more than likely surrounded by elite talent at other positions/ champion ship defense etc.

So yes, there is a correlation between a fast 400m time and football speed. If you can run qtr mile you have enough speed to play the game but that doesn't mean you're a great football player. A guy can run a 46 qtr but can't change direction, to much of a long strider, can't get up top speed fast enough, feet aren't choppy enough etch which would make him useless at a given position. Same thing can be said for a guy who can run a 10.4. He has the speed but lack other intangibles.

You don't need to know how to build a spaceship to understand these simple concepts.

 

[Tetragrammaton Cane]

Lack of speed?
He ran in 5 track meets in 2016 and did not run this year. As a sophomore he did rather well for 400m. Each meet he ran in he was progressively faster. He was in that speed/growth development phase and no doubt much faster now.

Demitrius Ivey (10th).... 3rd-place......400m.... 51.78 PR..... Apr 19,2016...... FHSAA 4A District 16

He also finished 5th in the FHSAA 4A Region 4 meet with a triple jump of over 43 feet that same year. All of those that were ahead of him were seniors and juniors. Many sophomores who jump 43'+ end up meeting the national HS elite standard of 45'. The triple jump shows explosion.

Triple jump was the 19th best in the state of Florida for sophomores

How much correlation is there between a good 400m time and football speed?

Not a lot. 400 is an endurance sprint, and a **** near 52 is an ok time, but not a good time.

Even a 100m can be deceiving. Look at Bolt, he rarely jumps out to an early lead, but always finishes well ahead. Other sprinters have better 60m times than he does, definitely better 40 times. To me, a short shuttle is a better score of football speed. 3-cone, shuttle, 10 yd split, those are what matters.

Agreement. There is ZERO correlation between 400m speed/quickness and 40yd times. NONE! If you asked a coach how fast a football player was and he gave you a 400m time then he’s trying to cover something up. The only thing that correlates to a 40...is a 40.

Football is played in 5-6 second bursts so the ability to get up to speed fast is paramount (there are 10.60 guys who run 4.3s and 10.60 guys who run 4.6s. All things being equal you throw out the 100m time and concentrate on the 40 because that’s .3s over 40yd). What’s missed is that great players PLAY FAST even if they don’t have defined speed/quickness; they have a sixth sense of anticipation that can make up for .2 secs. Michael Irvin wasn’t as fast as Randy Moss but you didn’t see guys run him down. There were faster LBs than Ray Lewis but they reacted while he anticipated; he recognized the patterns earlier. He played fast. That’s why FILM is the most important ingredient.

As for Bolt…the fastest 60m and 40m were recorded by him on the way to his 9.58 in 2009.

 

[Miami Nights]

Lack of speed?
He ran in 5 track meets in 2016 and did not run this year. As a sophomore he did rather well for 400m. Each meet he ran in he was progressively faster. He was in that speed/growth development phase and no doubt much faster now.

Demitrius Ivey (10th).... 3rd-place......400m.... 51.78 PR..... Apr 19,2016...... FHSAA 4A District 16

He also finished 5th in the FHSAA 4A Region 4 meet with a triple jump of over 43 feet that same year. All of those that were ahead of him were seniors and juniors. Many sophomores who jump 43'+ end up meeting the national HS elite standard of 45'. The triple jump shows explosion.

Triple jump was the 19th best in the state of Florida for sophomores

How much correlation is there between a good 400m time and football speed?

Not a lot. 400 is an endurance sprint, and a **** near 52 is an ok time, but not a good time.

Even a 100m can be deceiving. Look at Bolt, he rarely jumps out to an early lead, but always finishes well ahead. Other sprinters have better 60m times than he does, definitely better 40 times. To me, a short shuttle is a better score of football speed. 3-cone, shuttle, 10 yd split, those are what matters.

Agreement. There is ZERO correlation between 400m speed/quickness and 40yd times. NONE! If you asked a coach how fast a football player was and he gave you a 400m time then he’s trying to cover something up. The only thing that correlates to a 40...is a 40.

Football is played in 5-6 second bursts so the ability to get up to speed fast is paramount (there are 10.60 guys who run 4.3s and 10.60 guys who run 4.6s. All things being equal you throw out the 100m time and concentrate on the 40 because that’s .3s over 40yd). What’s missed is that great players PLAY FAST even if they don’t have defined speed/quickness; they have a sixth sense of anticipation that can make up for .2 secs. Michael Irvin wasn’t as fast as Randy Moss but you didn’t see guys run him down. There were faster LBs than Ray Lewis but they reacted while he anticipated; he recognized the patterns earlier. He played fast. That’s why FILM is the most important ingredient.

As for Bolt…the fastest 60m and 40m were recorded by him on the way to his 9.58 in 2009.

Zero correlation? ok

 

[Tetragrammaton Cane]

Not a lot. 400 is an endurance sprint, and a **** near 52 is an ok time, but not a good time.

Even a 100m can be deceiving. Look at Bolt, he rarely jumps out to an early lead, but always finishes well ahead. Other sprinters have better 60m times than he does, definitely better 40 times. To me, a short shuttle is a better score of football speed. 3-cone, shuttle, 10 yd split, those are what matters.

Agreement. There is ZERO correlation between 400m speed/quickness and 40yd times. NONE! If you asked a coach how fast a football player was and he gave you a 400m time then he’s trying to cover something up. The only thing that correlates to a 40...is a 40.

Football is played in 5-6 second bursts so the ability to get up to speed fast is paramount (there are 10.60 guys who run 4.3s and 10.60 guys who run 4.6s. All things being equal you throw out the 100m time and concentrate on the 40 because that’s .3s over 40yd). What’s missed is that great players PLAY FAST even if they don’t have defined speed/quickness; they have a sixth sense of anticipation that can make up for .2 secs. Michael Irvin wasn’t as fast as Randy Moss but you didn’t see guys run him down. There were faster LBs than Ray Lewis but they reacted while he anticipated; he recognized the patterns earlier. He played fast. That’s why FILM is the most important ingredient.

As for Bolt…the fastest 60m and 40m were recorded by him on the way to his 9.58 in 2009.

Zero correlation? ok

Glad you agree.

 

[Miami Nights]

Not a lot. 400 is an endurance sprint, and a **** near 52 is an ok time, but not a good time.

Even a 100m can be deceiving. Look at Bolt, he rarely jumps out to an early lead, but always finishes well ahead. Other sprinters have better 60m times than he does, definitely better 40 times. To me, a short shuttle is a better score of football speed. 3-cone, shuttle, 10 yd split, those are what matters.

Agreement. There is ZERO correlation between 400m speed/quickness and 40yd times. NONE! If you asked a coach how fast a football player was and he gave you a 400m time then he’s trying to cover something up. The only thing that correlates to a 40...is a 40.

Football is played in 5-6 second bursts so the ability to get up to speed fast is paramount (there are 10.60 guys who run 4.3s and 10.60 guys who run 4.6s. All things being equal you throw out the 100m time and concentrate on the 40 because that’s .3s over 40yd). What’s missed is that great players PLAY FAST even if they don’t have defined speed/quickness; they have a sixth sense of anticipation that can make up for .2 secs. Michael Irvin wasn’t as fast as Randy Moss but you didn’t see guys run him down. There were faster LBs than Ray Lewis but they reacted while he anticipated; he recognized the patterns earlier. He played fast. That’s why FILM is the most important ingredient.

As for Bolt…the fastest 60m and 40m were recorded by him on the way to his 9.58 in 2009.

Zero correlation? ok

Glad you agree.

naw

 

[Tetragrammaton Cane]

Not a lot. 400 is an endurance sprint, and a **** near 52 is an ok time, but not a good time.

Even a 100m can be deceiving. Look at Bolt, he rarely jumps out to an early lead, but always finishes well ahead. Other sprinters have better 60m times than he does, definitely better 40 times. To me, a short shuttle is a better score of football speed. 3-cone, shuttle, 10 yd split, those are what matters.

Agreement. There is ZERO correlation between 400m speed/quickness and 40yd times. NONE! If you asked a coach how fast a football player was and he gave you a 400m time then he’s trying to cover something up. The only thing that correlates to a 40...is a 40.

Football is played in 5-6 second bursts so the ability to get up to speed fast is paramount (there are 10.60 guys who run 4.3s and 10.60 guys who run 4.6s. All things being equal you throw out the 100m time and concentrate on the 40 because that’s .3s over 40yd). What’s missed is that great players PLAY FAST even if they don’t have defined speed/quickness; they have a sixth sense of anticipation that can make up for .2 secs. Michael Irvin wasn’t as fast as Randy Moss but you didn’t see guys run him down. There were faster LBs than Ray Lewis but they reacted while he anticipated; he recognized the patterns earlier. He played fast. That’s why FILM is the most important ingredient.

As for Bolt…the fastest 60m and 40m were recorded by him on the way to his 9.58 in 2009.

Zero correlation? ok

Glad you agree.

naw

That’s not something you should openly admit. Shows you’re out of your depth.

 

[2Focusd804]

All that video showed me is we need to give Thomas some jet sweeps and end arounds

 

[bmorecane]

Lack of speed?
He ran in 5 track meets in 2016 and did not run this year. As a sophomore he did rather well for 400m. Each meet he ran in he was progressively faster. He was in that speed/growth development phase and no doubt much faster now.

Demitrius Ivey (10th).... 3rd-place......400m.... 51.78 PR..... Apr 19,2016...... FHSAA 4A District 16

He also finished 5th in the FHSAA 4A Region 4 meet with a triple jump of over 43 feet that same year. All of those that were ahead of him were seniors and juniors. Many sophomores who jump 43'+ end up meeting the national HS elite standard of 45'. The triple jump shows explosion.

Triple jump was the 19th best in the state of Florida for sophomores

How much correlation is there between a good 400m time and football speed?

Not a lot. 400 is an endurance sprint, and a **** near 52 is an ok time, but not a good time.

Even a 100m can be deceiving. Look at Bolt, he rarely jumps out to an early lead, but always finishes well ahead. Other sprinters have better 60m times than he does, definitely better 40 times. To me, a short shuttle is a better score of football speed. 3-cone, shuttle, 10 yd split, those are what matters.

I was wondering why they don't run the 400m at the NFL combine.

All that video showed me is we need to give Thomas some jet sweeps and end arounds

Duke and Hester cutting and change direction twitch. Elite. Will take a kickoff to house soon.

 

[Swampcity]

The Playmaker stated at Paradise Camp: "DJ Ivey stood out amongst all the athletes at camp"

 

[randolph herndon]

Lack of speed?
He ran in 5 track meets in 2016 and did not run this year. As a sophomore he did rather well for 400m. Each meet he ran in he was progressively faster. He was in that speed/growth development phase and no doubt much faster now.

Demitrius Ivey (10th).... 3rd-place......400m.... 51.78 PR..... Apr 19,2016...... FHSAA 4A District 16

He also finished 5th in the FHSAA 4A Region 4 meet with a triple jump of over 43 feet that same year. All of those that were ahead of him were seniors and juniors. Many sophomores who jump 43'+ end up meeting the national HS elite standard of 45'. The triple jump shows explosion.

Triple jump was the 19th best in the state of Florida for sophomores

How much correlation is there between a good 400m time and football speed?

How much correlation is there between any track event and football speed. Who runs in a straight line from a sprinters crouch on a football field? No sense going after this guy CarolCity as he is just posting some track events as there has been no Nike on him
The one guy that says look at the film against top players has about he best correlation.

Get your rabbit ears off, bub. I asked the guy a simple question because he seems to be dialed in on track info. If that's "going after" him to you, then you're weak.

I have been an assistant track coach at ASU before I took a head coach job at a SW JUCO. We timed ball players for 40 and saw the track correlations in various sprinting races if they were track athletes. There is according to various research studies/publications in football and track and field there is a 32% to 78% correlation between the 40yd and 60m and longer races up to 400m. Naturally, the correlation is closer when shorter distances are compared to each other but a of level of significance does exist between the 200m, 300m and 400m.

There are also plenty in instances where a man can have very good to excellent 40 ,55m or 60m but lacks the developed stamina" to perform a 400 that would be considered good.
Therefore practice in any event is the key to an excellent time. NIKE combines over and over again have show players who have clocked legit 11.0 and lower 100m meter times and produced 40 times in the 4.7 range. Why do you think that in most of the regional NIKE combines many invitees 30-35% especially skilled players refuse to run the 40 even though they may be good 100m or shorter sprinters.

And the intangibles such as ability to flip hips, backpedal with speed and break, slow and stop and be able to accelerate back to top speed in the shortest time, etc, etc. are more than any straight line 40 or sprint distance in track can show on the field.

Have you had a stopwatch on Ivey in the 40? Apparently, MR and company think he has the ability and I will take their evaluation anytime.

 

[Miami Nights]

Agreement. There is ZERO correlation between 400m speed/quickness and 40yd times. NONE! If you asked a coach how fast a football player was and he gave you a 400m time then he’s trying to cover something up. The only thing that correlates to a 40...is a 40.

Football is played in 5-6 second bursts so the ability to get up to speed fast is paramount (there are 10.60 guys who run 4.3s and 10.60 guys who run 4.6s. All things being equal you throw out the 100m time and concentrate on the 40 because that’s .3s over 40yd). What’s missed is that great players PLAY FAST even if they don’t have defined speed/quickness; they have a sixth sense of anticipation that can make up for .2 secs. Michael Irvin wasn’t as fast as Randy Moss but you didn’t see guys run him down. There were faster LBs than Ray Lewis but they reacted while he anticipated; he recognized the patterns earlier. He played fast. That’s why FILM is the most important ingredient.

As for Bolt…the fastest 60m and 40m were recorded by him on the way to his 9.58 in 2009.

Zero correlation? ok

Glad you agree.

naw

That’s not something you should openly admit. Shows you’re out of your depth.

I know exactly what I'm talkin bout foo

 

[Miami Nights]

Lack of speed?
He ran in 5 track meets in 2016 and did not run this year. As a sophomore he did rather well for 400m. Each meet he ran in he was progressively faster. He was in that speed/growth development phase and no doubt much faster now.

Demitrius Ivey (10th).... 3rd-place......400m.... 51.78 PR..... Apr 19,2016...... FHSAA 4A District 16

He also finished 5th in the FHSAA 4A Region 4 meet with a triple jump of over 43 feet that same year. All of those that were ahead of him were seniors and juniors. Many sophomores who jump 43'+ end up meeting the national HS elite standard of 45'. The triple jump shows explosion.

Triple jump was the 19th best in the state of Florida for sophomores

How much correlation is there between a good 400m time and football speed?

How much correlation is there between any track event and football speed. Who runs in a straight line from a sprinters crouch on a football field? No sense going after this guy CarolCity as he is just posting some track events as there has been no Nike on him
The one guy that says look at the film against top players has about he best correlation.

Get your rabbit ears off, bub. I asked the guy a simple question because he seems to be dialed in on track info. If that's "going after" him to you, then you're weak.

I have been an assistant track coach at ASU before I took a head coach job at a SW JUCO. We timed ball players for 40 and saw the track correlations in various sprinting races if they were track athletes. There is according to various research studies/publications in football and track and field there is a 32% to 78% correlation between the 40yd and 60m and longer races up to 400m. Naturally, the correlation is closer when shorter distances are compared to each other but a of level of significance does exist between the 200m, 300m and 400m.

There are also plenty in instances where a man can have very good to excellent 40 ,55m or 60m but lacks the developed stamina" to perform a 400 that would be considered good.
Therefore practice in any event is the key to an excellent time. NIKE combines over and over again have show players who have clocked legit 11.0 and lower 100m meter times and produced 40 times in the 4.7 range. Why do you think that in most of the regional NIKE combines many invitees 30-35% especially skilled players refuse to run the 40 even though they may be good 100m or shorter sprinters.

And the intangibles such as ability to flip hips, backpedal with speed and break, slow and stop and be able to accelerate back to top speed in the shortest time, etc, etc. are more than any straight line 40 or sprint distance in track can show on the field.

Have you had a stopwatch on Ivey in the 40? Apparently, MR and company think he has the ability and I will take their evaluation anytime.

Yep but as far as Ivey goes his speed still remains a question mark imo

 

[Tetragrammaton Cane]

Zero correlation? ok

Glad you agree.

naw

That’s not something you should openly admit. Shows you’re out of your depth.

I know exactly what I'm talkin bout foo

No you don’t. And you’re embarrassing yourself by returning to this. 400m speed has nothing to do with how fast someone can run a 40. And using that as a reference shows ignorance or duplicity.

 

[Tetragrammaton Cane]

I have been an assistant track coach at ASU before I took a head coach job at a SW JUCO. We timed ball players for 40 and saw the track correlations in various sprinting races if they were track athletes. There is according to various research studies/publications in football and track and field there is a 32% to 78% correlation between the 40yd and 60m and longer races up to 400m. Naturally, the correlation is closer when shorter distances are compared to each other but a of level of significance does exist between the 200m, 300m and 400m.

Would love to read a recent publication/journal/study that draws a correlation between 400m times and the 40 yd dash (being able to deduce short speed from long speed). Cite one. I’d love to read it. That “level of significance” would be irrelevant, or at least professionally irresponsible to conclude correlation. No real college or professional coach would EVER conclude that a near 52 second high school runner was a 4.3 in waiting. Pure comedy.

Who has the faster 40 of the athletes below?

PB 44.79 Marc Raquil
PB 44.89 Tyson G ay

I’ll answer it for you, because..., well, because...this foolishness has to end somewhere. Smh. Tyson would be MORE than .5 faster over 40 yds. Yes, one-half second faster.

 

[Miami Nights]

Glad you agree.

naw

That’s not something you should openly admit. Shows you’re out of your depth.

I know exactly what I'm talkin bout foo

No you don’t. And you’re embarrassing yourself by returning to this. 400m speed has nothing to do with how fast someone can run a 40. And using that as a reference shows ignorance or duplicity.

You're a ***** idiot and don't put words in my mouth. To say there's Zero correlation..which is what you said. .... Is dumb as ***. slow people aren't gonna run an outstanding 400m time ...if you can run a good qtr you Polly can run a decent 40. Not saying running certain time makes you a 4.3 guy cause there are other factors but if you can run you can run. You trying to formulate chit and break it down shows your just another non-athlete trying to jive some BS together.

 

[Tetragrammaton Cane]

naw

That’s not something you should openly admit. Shows you’re out of your depth.

I know exactly what I'm talkin bout foo

No you don’t. And you’re embarrassing yourself by returning to this. 400m speed has nothing to do with how fast someone can run a 40. And using that as a reference shows ignorance or duplicity.

You're a ***** idiot and don't put words in my mouth. To say there's Zero correlation..which is what you said. .... Is dumb as ***. slow people aren't gonna run an outstanding 400m time ...if you can run a good qtr you Polly can run a decent 40. Not saying running certain time makes you a 4.3 guy cause there are other factors but if you can run you can run. You trying to formulate chit and break it down shows your just another non-athlete trying to jive some BS together.

If I put words in your mouth, they would be the most intelligent words ever to come out of them. From the beginning I said I was an Ivey fan and didn’t attempt to lessen his ability. The fact that your track knowledge slightly exceeds your comprehension is your problem. I said I doubted he was sub-4.6 and down came the rains of stupidity and ad-hominem.

The only non-athlete in this conversation is you. Nice try, though. Well, not really.

No REAL athlete would not have enough experience to not realize that a near 52 second 400m tells you absolutely nothing about how fast a kid is or maybe.

 

[Big Sky Cane]

Lack of speed?
He ran in 5 track meets in 2016 and did not run this year. As a sophomore he did rather well for 400m. Each meet he ran in he was progressively faster. He was in that speed/growth development phase and no doubt much faster now.

Demitrius Ivey (10th).... 3rd-place......400m.... 51.78 PR..... Apr 19,2016...... FHSAA 4A District 16

He also finished 5th in the FHSAA 4A Region 4 meet with a triple jump of over 43 feet that same year. All of those that were ahead of him were seniors and juniors. Many sophomores who jump 43'+ end up meeting the national HS elite standard of 45'. The triple jump shows explosion.

Triple jump was the 19th best in the state of Florida for sophomores

How much correlation is there between a good 400m time and football speed?

Not a lot. 400 is an endurance sprint, and a **** near 52 is an ok time, but not a good time.

Even a 100m can be deceiving. Look at Bolt, he rarely jumps out to an early lead, but always finishes well ahead. Other sprinters have better 60m times than he does, definitely better 40 times. To me, a short shuttle is a better score of football speed. 3-cone, shuttle, 10 yd split, those are what matters.

The Honkeey Badger agrees......

 

[ChosenOne]

That’s not something you should openly admit. Shows you’re out of your depth.

I know exactly what I'm talkin bout foo

No you don’t. And you’re embarrassing yourself by returning to this. 400m speed has nothing to do with how fast someone can run a 40. And using that as a reference shows ignorance or duplicity.

You're a ***** idiot and don't put words in my mouth. To say there's Zero correlation..which is what you said. .... Is dumb as ***. slow people aren't gonna run an outstanding 400m time ...if you can run a good qtr you Polly can run a decent 40. Not saying running certain time makes you a 4.3 guy cause there are other factors but if you can run you can run. You trying to formulate chit and break it down shows your just another non-athlete trying to jive some BS together.

If I put words in your mouth, they would be the most intelligent words ever to come out of them. From the beginning I said I was an Ivey fan and didn’t attempt to lessen his ability. The fact that your track knowledge slightly exceeds your comprehension is your problem. I said I doubted he was sub-4.6 and down came the rains of stupidity and ad-hominem.

The only non-athlete in this conversation is you. Nice try, though. Well, not really.

No REAL athlete would not have enough experience to not realize that a near 52 second 400m tells you absolutely nothing about how fast a kid is or maybe.

Stealing this.

 

[Miami Nights]

That’s not something you should openly admit. Shows you’re out of your depth.

I know exactly what I'm talkin bout foo

No you don’t. And you’re embarrassing yourself by returning to this. 400m speed has nothing to do with how fast someone can run a 40. And using that as a reference shows ignorance or duplicity.

You're a ***** idiot and don't put words in my mouth. To say there's Zero correlation..which is what you said. .... Is dumb as ***. slow people aren't gonna run an outstanding 400m time ...if you can run a good qtr you Polly can run a decent 40. Not saying running certain time makes you a 4.3 guy cause there are other factors but if you can run you can run. You trying to formulate chit and break it down shows your just another non-athlete trying to jive some BS together.

If I put words in your mouth, they would be the most intelligent words ever to come out of them. From the beginning I said I was an Ivey fan and didn’t attempt to lessen his ability. The fact that your track knowledge slightly exceeds your comprehension is your problem. I said I doubted he was sub-4.6 and down came the rains of stupidity and ad-hominem.

The only non-athlete in this conversation is you. Nice try, though. Well, not really.

No REAL athlete would not have enough experience to not realize that a near 52 second 400m tells you absolutely nothing about how fast a kid is or maybe.

You Polly drive with 2 hands on the steering wheel. Bich ***. And stop jacking yourself off. You look ***** stupid Yea, 52 Qm doesn't tell you anything about his speed..matter of fact 52 is garbage **** I ran that in 9th grade. I'm not sure if 52 is his top time or not but if it is that doesn't bode well for his overall speed plains and simple.

Bennie blades ran a 47 qtr. 4.4 40. Bottom line is this. A slow person who runs a 5.0 40 will never run a 48 qtr plain and simple. If you're fast you gonna put up some good track times of course other things come into to play like strength, stride length, endurance, what kinds shape your in etc. etc. That statement is irrefutable.

If Ivey ran a 47, 48 **** even 49 I wouldn't question his speed per say. I'd have to look at him as a football player and see what kind of physical intangibles he has to go along with that speed.