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2026 Derrek Cooper 5* RB/ATH from Chaminade Commits to Texas

pacusmc said:
Cooper gave all indications that he wanted to stay home and was even committed to Uga at one point. What happened or will happen isn’t my argument.
My argument is who I would pay more for. And that’s what I wrote and why.

Obviously 7 on 7 aint pads. But if you think that cooper covering a slot receiver at his size pads or no pads isn’t a big deal then we will agree to disagree.
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Sounds like Texas has a larger bank and thus is more generous towards Cooper than Miami. Not too difficult to understand. Could argue, but if follow the NFL model it’s not prudent to overpay for RB.
 
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CANESCANES said:
Must be very nice not being wedged between two dead programs
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You know the the interesting thing is like in the NFL there are definitely some teams that subscribe to the like "**** them picks" mindset where the objective is just to acquire superstars and have solid to good players everywhere else... as opposed to just keep churning out great players built through the draft and all that. Basically a bigger contrast between the top of the roster and the average of the roster in quality of player. Obviously we all know this works when you have a superstar at QB. But the interesting thing is when teams do it at other positions. I think this is how you can kinda think of On3s Avg recruit vs On3s Avg NIL ranking. Cause like just think about this picture here:

UF has 0 5tsars, 13 4stars, and 5 3stars with avg recruit rating of 90.32 but avg NIL of $96k
FSU has 1 5star, 12 4star, and 9 3stars with avg recruit rating of 89.12 but avg NIL of $83k
We have 1 5star, 13 4stars, and 6 3stars with avg recruit rating of 89.94 but avg NIL of $170k!

So Like they are saying we have 1 more elite player (5star) the same amount of Blue chips (4star), but just one more developmental guys (3star) than them. Yet our expected NIL cost for our class is **** near double UF and IS double FSUs... yet our average rate per recruit is smack dab in the middle of those two. So clearly there is a big different in player even though the avg recruit rating isn't all that different.

If you go by avg NIL by on3 its like
1. Oregon $241k
2. UGA $190k
3. LSU $187k
4. Bama $177k
5. Texas $175k
T6. USC $170k
T6. Miami $170k
8. Ohio St $145k
9. UTenn $111k
10. Texas A&M $102k
12. Notre Dame $98k
12. UF $96k
13. Michigan $90k
14. Maryland $86k
15. FSU $83k
16. Texas Tech $80k
16. Houston $79k

The real issue is that like there really should be more than just 3 tiers - 5, 4, 3star. There should be like 5star, High 4star, Mid 4star, Low 4star, High 3star, Everyone else - so like 6 tiers, with more separation between the players. Because just like the draft it's not like you know the WR you have ranked 6th is going to be better than the WR you have ranked 7th. But you're confident that the WR group you have 4-7 is better than the one you have grouped 8-12, kinda thing.

Cause like just saying 1 5star and 13 4stars like we have vs 0 5stars and 13 4stars like UF has ... with avg recruit rating similar but one program having almost double the expected NIL cost... well to me that would be saying we have the better class. ... But also I can see how having 5 high 4stars and 8 mid4stars COULD be better than 1 5stars, 3 mid 4stars, and 10 low 4stars... But theres more than 1 way to build a roster. I'd just say we need to keep making sure the high cost guys are at high value positions.
 
Calinative said:
You know the the interesting thing is like in the NFL there are definitely some teams that subscribe to the like "**** them picks" mindset where the objective is just to acquire superstars and have solid to good players everywhere else... as opposed to just keep churning out great players built through the draft and all that. Basically a bigger contrast between the top of the roster and the average of the roster in quality of player. Obviously we all know this works when you have a superstar at QB. But the interesting thing is when teams do it at other positions. I think this is how you can kinda think of On3s Avg recruit vs On3s Avg NIL ranking. Cause like just think about this picture here:

UF has 0 5tsars, 13 4stars, and 5 3stars with avg recruit rating of 90.32 but avg NIL of $96k
FSU has 1 5star, 12 4star, and 9 3stars with avg recruit rating of 89.12 but avg NIL of $83k
We have 1 5star, 13 4stars, and 6 3stars with avg recruit rating of 89.94 but avg NIL of $170k!

So Like they are saying we have 1 more elite player (5star) the same amount of Blue chips (4star), but just one more developmental guys (3star) than them. Yet our expected NIL cost for our class is **** near double UF and IS double FSUs... yet our average rate per recruit is smack dab in the middle of those two. So clearly there is a big different in player even though the avg recruit rating isn't all that different.

If you go by avg NIL by on3 its like
1. Oregon $241k
2. UGA $190k
3. LSU $187k
4. Bama $177k
5. Texas $175k
T6. USC $170k
T6. Miami $170k
8. Ohio St $145k
9. UTenn $111k
10. Texas A&M $102k
12. Notre Dame $98k
12. UF $96k
13. Michigan $90k
14. Maryland $86k
15. FSU $83k
16. Texas Tech $80k
16. Houston $79k

The real issue is that like there really should be more than just 3 tiers - 5, 4, 3star. There should be like 5star, High 4star, Mid 4star, Low 4star, High 3star, Everyone else - so like 6 tiers, with more separation between the players. Because just like the draft it's not like you know the WR you have ranked 6th is going to be better than the WR you have ranked 7th. But you're confident that the WR group you have 4-7 is better than the one you have grouped 8-12, kinda thing.

Cause like just saying 1 5star and 13 4stars like we have vs 0 5stars and 13 4stars like UF has ... with avg recruit rating similar but one program having almost double the expected NIL cost... well to me that would be saying we have the better class. ... But also I can see how having 5 high 4stars and 8 mid4stars COULD be better than 1 5stars, 3 mid 4stars, and 10 low 4stars... But theres more than 1 way to build a roster. I'd just say we need to keep making sure the high cost guys are at high value positions.
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I coach at a pretty good hs program now, have bunch of p4 kids and used to coach college ball. Talked to a position coach from a top big10 program and he told me a typical 4 star gets paid anywhere between 175k-225k. Some players/agents are pressing for 2 year deals (obviously more guaranteed money) where alot of schools only offering 1 year deals.
 
SPFRcane said:
Where did i say it was a sfla thing....I could care less what's going on Texas we're talking bout UM and my opinion of what's going with local kids.
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You said it’s a culture problem in sfla and they have no loyalty and other areas don’t have this problem , and said they transfer in high school as a reason to show that…No team gets all of their local talent, literally no one and especially not the schools in the top talented areas because everyone will be after the players

So when its a elite kid down here, we are recruiting against tier1 programs when we are a tier3 program. Take the names and hometown shades off and this is just regular college football stuff for everyone but our fans are still stuck on 1980s-2000s thinking lol
 
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Calinative said:
The real issue is that like there really should be more than just 3 tiers - 5, 4, 3star. There should be like 5star, High 4star, Mid 4star, Low 4star, High 3star, Everyone else - so like 6 tiers, with more separation between the players. Because just like the draft it's not like you know the WR you have ranked 6th is going to be better than the WR you have ranked 7th. But you're confident that the WR group you have 4-7 is better than the one you have grouped 8-12, kinda thing.

Cause like just saying 1 5star and 13 4stars like we have vs 0 5stars and 13 4stars like UF has ... with avg recruit rating similar but one program having almost double the expected NIL cost... well to me that would be saying we have the better class. ... But also I can see how having 5 high 4stars and 8 mid4stars COULD be better than 1 5stars, 3 mid 4stars, and 10 low 4stars... But theres more than 1 way to build a roster. I'd just say we need to keep making sure the high cost guys are at high value positions.
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1000% agree, that’s how i view it in my brain but if the sites did it like that they would lose some engagement.
 
CaryLucas_23 said:
Exactly. This is also why i was so confused when judkins transferred to osu. It’s a non-premium position. I’d want to go to where I could have the best chance to standout. You’ll get the majority of their rb budget, you’ll get probably 100% of the team’s local and national brand deals given to the rb position. And then come the draft you’re not splitting time with another awesome back. It’s a position I’d be really careful of competition if i was them
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Judkins transferred cause of tampering money and a better OL to stand out. It was a win win and the right move


Edit: that wasn’t the right move? He won a natty and got to play with JJ
 
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E1k said:
You said it’s a culture problem in sfla and they have no loyalty and other areas don’t have this problem , and said they transfer in high school as a reason to show that…No team gets all of their local talent, literally no one and especially not the schools in the top talented areas because everyone will be after the players

So when its a elite kid down here, we are recruiting against tier1 programs when we are a tier3 program. Take the names and hometown shades off and this is just regular college football stuff for everyone but our fans are still stuck on 1980s-2000s thinking lol
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First off I'm far from a homer or stuck in the past concerning um as a football program. Second these tiers you speak of, where can I find this article breaking down the different tiers based on relevance and accomplishments in the current college football landscape?
 
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Canesq said:
One example in one year that already had a fairly complete team.

How many playoff wins did he give the team that drafted him?
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They “overpaid” for a player to put them over the top. Regardless if it’s a QB, RB, DT, S or whatever. If that’s a missing piece you pay what you need to make it elite. If you’re a **** team then it doesn’t make sense. But if you have playoff talent and your 1-3 players away from being a legit title contender you give out blank checks to fill those spots.
 
Calinative said:
You know the the interesting thing is like in the NFL there are definitely some teams that subscribe to the like "**** them picks" mindset where the objective is just to acquire superstars and have solid to good players everywhere else... as opposed to just keep churning out great players built through the draft and all that. Basically a bigger contrast between the top of the roster and the average of the roster in quality of player. Obviously we all know this works when you have a superstar at QB. But the interesting thing is when teams do it at other positions. I think this is how you can kinda think of On3s Avg recruit vs On3s Avg NIL ranking. Cause like just think about this picture here:

UF has 0 5tsars, 13 4stars, and 5 3stars with avg recruit rating of 90.32 but avg NIL of $96k
FSU has 1 5star, 12 4star, and 9 3stars with avg recruit rating of 89.12 but avg NIL of $83k
We have 1 5star, 13 4stars, and 6 3stars with avg recruit rating of 89.94 but avg NIL of $170k!

So Like they are saying we have 1 more elite player (5star) the same amount of Blue chips (4star), but just one more developmental guys (3star) than them. Yet our expected NIL cost for our class is **** near double UF and IS double FSUs... yet our average rate per recruit is smack dab in the middle of those two. So clearly there is a big different in player even though the avg recruit rating isn't all that different.

If you go by avg NIL by on3 its like
1. Oregon $241k
2. UGA $190k
3. LSU $187k
4. Bama $177k
5. Texas $175k
T6. USC $170k
T6. Miami $170k
8. Ohio St $145k
9. UTenn $111k
10. Texas A&M $102k
12. Notre Dame $98k
12. UF $96k
13. Michigan $90k
14. Maryland $86k
15. FSU $83k
16. Texas Tech $80k
16. Houston $79k

The real issue is that like there really should be more than just 3 tiers - 5, 4, 3star. There should be like 5star, High 4star, Mid 4star, Low 4star, High 3star, Everyone else - so like 6 tiers, with more separation between the players. Because just like the draft it's not like you know the WR you have ranked 6th is going to be better than the WR you have ranked 7th. But you're confident that the WR group you have 4-7 is better than the one you have grouped 8-12, kinda thing.

Cause like just saying 1 5star and 13 4stars like we have vs 0 5stars and 13 4stars like UF has ... with avg recruit rating similar but one program having almost double the expected NIL cost... well to me that would be saying we have the better class. ... But also I can see how having 5 high 4stars and 8 mid4stars COULD be better than 1 5stars, 3 mid 4stars, and 10 low 4stars... But theres more than 1 way to build a roster. I'd just say we need to keep making sure the high cost guys are at high value positions.
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Unfortunately On3's valuations are just made up and have no bearing on the actual contracts that these guys are getting in real life.
 
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